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That's a lot of extra bits just for: http://www.nrbbs.net
Yup, this is a version 2 QR code which is 25x25 pixels, I
could do a v1 which would "only" be 21x21.
Most of the extra bits are for error correction &
orientation. Sure you could just type in the URL, but
where's the fun in that? ;)
What did you use to create the QR code?
What did you use to create the QR code?
http://asciiqr.com
I replied to the netmail with the even larger code you sent me. I
could have crash delivered it, but I forgot. Let me know if you
get it.
I find QR codes intriguing. The math and design behind them is a
pretty cool puzzle.
There is a fellow who built a login sequence (based on SQRL) for
secure BBS login.
I think it is Deon George @ alterant.leenooks.net
I watched a video on Youtube about how these are encoded on
a high level. It's neat & over my head, but still neat.
That's when I learned that v1 codes are 21x21 pixels which
got my gears turning, "Hey, that could fit on a BBS screen".
Newer codes go all the way up to 177x177 which can hold up
to 4296 alphanumeric characters (depending on the level of
error correction used).
A 21x21 pixel qr code can hold up to 25 alphanumeric
characters while the 25x25 I used before can hold up to 47.
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http://asciiqr.com
There is a fellow who built a login sequence (based on SQRL) for
secure BBS login.
I think it is Deon George @ alterant.leenooks.net
If the SQRL client could make it to the app store - it would
be awesome -but alas the developer of it is keeping it close
to his heart (which is OK) - but also taking time to get it
to the app store for general consumption. I've offered to
help :|
Generally, I think SQRL is an awesome authentication method,
which I would think it would be great if more "services" (or
sites) made it a method to login (hence why I'm keen for it
to hit the app store).
I have videos - both on Viewdata/Videotex and normal ANSI.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCELm-xSLiXlxc4DbKavTZ0A
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Nice, I found Northern Realms easily with this.
I tried using xqtr's qr code mod to... do this.... but hte qr codes
were always too big to post. How did you post THIS message/how did
you get it sized correctly to be able to post in a message area?
http://asciiqr.com
tee hee. [vulgar]
I think this might be a good way to simplify the more complex
telnet destination addresses that some bbses have and at least
get people curious to try the webby mTelnet method from their
tablets?
The fine pepole at:
http://asciiqr.com/
Generate QR codes that I was able to copy & paste into Notepad++, from there I made sure to save it as OEM-US encoding (which I believe is
CP437) and then just upload the .txt as a message & it seemed to work.
It looks like they have some sorce available on how they do it: http://asciiqr.com/source.txt
Jay
I think this might be a good way to simplify the more
complex telnet destination addresses that some bbses have
I was trying to use QR codes to 'take people on a journey'
from my BBS... like, show them textmode stuff... and then
the user uses their phone to checkout a video; or an image
file, or some data that we can't easily display on BBSes.
I'm about to release a .PDF file for my BBS, and a QR code
could 'display' it easily... many uses.
The ASCII/ANSI QR codes I was working with were too big, but
the link you posted the other day produced much smaller QRs.
Hope I didn't lose that link, maybe you can post it again?
The Store presence isn't absolutely critical. I've seen
official apps distributed as direct .APK downloads from the
source sites.
I've already built a portable way to "remember" the passwords
for the sites that I visit. But I've also swayed from the algorithm/formula depending on the site. So, now I have to try
and remember which algorithm did I use?
Very nice. I'd ditch the 1st one though; at first, I wondered
.."it's out of focus!" ..and then realized that maybe you
wanted to protect your legitimate QR code. Fine. But then you
don't bring back the balance of the demo into focus when you are
done with the QR code.
The Store presence isn't absolutely critical. I've seen
official apps distributed as direct .APK downloads from the
source sites.
Isnt APK a Google Android thing?
And that's one of the things I like about SQRL. You only
need a master password to unlock the key (which you never
use the password on a site) -kinda like the password
managers, and then you scan the QR code and you are signed
in.
Very nice. I'd ditch the 1st one though; at first, I
wondered .."it's out of focus!" ..and then realized that
maybe you wanted to protect your legitimate QR code...
It was out of focus - the QR code is useless to anybody -
isnt linked to me, and is void once used (or a short timeout
has expired).
I really liked Steve Gibson's explanation on the benefit using a SQRL-type system. This way, if the "credentials" are lost or
compromised on the server (the service you are loging into),
those "public key" codes are useless to the hackers.
It just seems totally wrong to rely on the remote service to
keep your login credentials safe. They should at least keep the
data on encrypted systems. It just irks me everytime I hear that
I think this might be a good way to simplify the more complex
telnet destination addresses that some bbses have and at least get people curious to try the webby mTelnet method from their tablets?
I wonder how many people are left that have no idea what to
do with a QR code. I might be well in the minority, but
I've never had any device that will deal with a QR code
natively. Nor have I ended up installing any application to
do so. :) I tend to abhor phones for anything other than
calls, or SMS though.
I wonder how many people are left that have no idea what to do with a QR code. I might be well in the minority, but I've never had any device that will deal with a QR code natively. Nor have I ended up installing any application to do so. :) I tend to abhor phones for anything other than calls, or SMS though.
Most Camera apps support them natively. At least on the Android side
of things - just open your camera, point at QR, and click the link
that comes up. I'm notsure if the IOS camera supports them or not,
but I *think* I remember seeing somewhere that it does now.
Most Camera apps support them natively. At least on the Android side
I wonder how many people are left that have no idea what to do with a QR code. I might be well in the minority, but I've never had any device that will deal with a QR code natively. Nor have I ended up installing any application to do so. :) I tend to abhor phones for anything other than calls, or SMS though.
Most Camera apps support them natively. At least on the Android side of things - just open your camera, point at QR, and click the link that
comes up. I'm not sure if the IOS camera supports them or not, but I
*think* I remember seeing somewhere that it does now.
On 04-10-21 17:49, Warpslide wrote to All <=-
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On 04-10-21 21:03, Warpslide wrote to Ogg <=-
*** Quoting Ogg from a message to Warpslide ***
That's a lot of extra bits just for: http://www.nrbbs.net
Yup, this is a version 2 QR code which is 25x25 pixels, I could do a v1 which would "only" be 21x21.
Most of the extra bits are for error correction & orientation. Sure
you could just type in the URL, but where's the fun in that? ;)
On 04-11-21 08:33, Warpslide wrote to MobbyG <=-
*** Quoting MobbyG from a message to Warpslide ***
What did you use to create the QR code?
http://asciiqr.com
On 04-11-21 22:25, paulie420 wrote to Warpslide <=-
tee hee. [vulgar]
On 04-13-21 11:31, Underminer wrote to spectre <=- >
Most Camera apps support them natively. At least on the Android side of things - just open your camera, point at QR, and click the link that
comes up. I'm not sure if the IOS camera supports them or not, but I *think* I remember seeing somewhere that it does now.
On 04-14-21 16:44, Spectre wrote to Underminer <=-
Most Camera apps support them natively. At least on the Android side
Mine doesn't seem to, but I'm using a budget alcatel model.. Hang on, while the previous alcatel didn't I haven't tried the new one... its an absolute schitzengruben phone though.
I just tried with a Nokia 3.1 running Android 10, and the stock camera
does not know what a QR is. I have a custom program
installed for QRs and barcodes, though. I use it to
interface with by web store in order to read the prices of
the products I have in stock :-)
Vk3jed wrote to Spectre <=-
I have seen a couple of cheap Androids that don't support QR codes natively, but my previous phone (which was Android) did work.
Hello Arelor!
** On Wednesday 14.04.21 - 03:58, Arelor wrote to Underminer:
I just tried with a Nokia 3.1 running Android 10, and the stock camera does not know what a QR is. I have a custom program
installed for QRs and barcodes, though. I use it to
interface with by web store in order to read the prices of
the products I have in stock :-)
I suppose products in Spain have a mix of QR and 1D barcodes?
QR is not very prominent on consumer products here in my little
part of Ontario. But I see realtors and autoparts suppliers use
them.
I just tried with a Nokia 3.1 running Android 10, and the stock camera does not know what a QR is. I have a custom program installed for QRs and
That's pretty unusual these days, not sure why nokia missed that. Can confirm that Gcam and Motorola's both pick it up easy peasy.
I have seen a couple of cheap Androids that don't support QR codes natively, but my previous phone (which was Android) did work.
Nokia uses stock android, they don't add / change stuff like samsung
etc.. it's part of the selling point.
Stock Android does not preclude alterations where hardware support
varies. The camera app is one of those areas. It must be if it doesn't support QR as I have run the default android camera apk on the phone
in my hand to test the image sensor quality without vendor specific
tweaks, and that app does indeed have QR support. But maybe it's the
same and just doesn't show up in the way you expect? It doesn't have
the ability to specifically select that you're looking at a QR, but if
I point it at one it recognizes it as such and gives the link option.
Tangential rant on that end - I find it simultaneously amusing and frustrati at some of the things we consider to be "new-fangled" or give passes to peop for not understanding. QRs are one that just confuses me as people have been trying to get them to catch on for over a decade. IPv6 is one that irritates since support is still either non-existant or half ass with many ISPs, despi the fact we're now fully out of IPv4 space and IPv6 has been around almost a long as the WWW. The final one that actually angers me is that none of our politicians or public servants seem to have much clue about computers, networks, or the internet, despite those things all being very central to modern life for well over 2 decades, and present for as long as anyone currently in the workforce has been in the workforce.
..I am tired of my father forwarding bank or public
administration emails to me for things that are his
business, and telling me to solve that stuff because "emails
are computer stuff and you are the computer boy".
Searching on the internet says that is the case for 9 and 10. Perhaps different versions had support in the camera app?
Ipv6 is not catching up because it is insanity made Internet protocol. Specs and implementations suck so much that ISPs would rather deploy more NAT monstruosities on top of other NAT monstruosities. Some Spanish ISP started experimental ipv6 rollouts and managed to piss their customers very badly in doing so, so they are not exactly eager to go forth with the plan.
Hello Arelor!
** On Thursday 15.04.21 - 03:26, Arelor wrote to Underminer:
..I am tired of my father forwarding bank or public
administration emails to me for things that are his
business, and telling me to solve that stuff because "emails
are computer stuff and you are the computer boy".
Perhaps it's his way of showing respect to you. :/
But if he can forward emails to you, why can't he respond to
those emails to the source that they originate from?
Ipv6 is not catching up because it is insanity made Internet protocol. Spe and implementations suck so much that ISPs would rather deploy more NAT monstruosities on top of other NAT monstruosities. Some Spanish ISP starte experimental ipv6 rollouts and managed to piss their customers very badly doing so, so they are not exactly eager to go forth with the plan.
I will agree that many attempts to implement ipv6 have been gigantic failures and efforts in frustration, but IPv6 itself is much easier to manage than IPv4, it's just there's all the crap that we've crammed on
top of IPv4 like NAT that we think of as part of the security layer that absolutely isn't at all, and isn't required on v6. I absolutely adore
and prefer v6 for how much easier it makes my life, but I have to be
careful where I use it as my ISP still has only partial support so I
have to use a tunnel, and that can introduce some latency that some applications do not play well with.
My concerns are with implementations of DHCP-PD, that compromise your ability to segment your network using routable addresses unless your ISP cooperates. It
Then there are the privacy concerns regarding SLAAC and the way it may give away your MAC addresses. Just another thing big tech can use to track people
problem is any competent administrator is going to set a firewall for the LAN
But the thing I hate the most is poorly implemented dual stacks. DS-Lite sucks
so much when done wrong. Not a problem with ipv6 actually. But suuuuucks when they nerf your ipv4 with DS-Lite and then don't give you PD. Orange, I am looking at you.
It's 20 year old technology, let's get it together, people!
AMEN, brother!
I have no native IPv6 here at all on my current connection. I don't know what the holdup is.
From a quick ping of your system it looks like you're using Teksavvy on the Shaw network? Shaw has been dragging their heels for over a decade
on IPv6.
You can get IPv6 with both Shaw and Teksavvy, but only with the
newer gateways.
Same boat I'm in as I'm dealing with the same provider(s), and I just
have a few things higher on the priority list than router/gateway replacement at the moment given that I do have IPv6 through a Hurricane Electric tunnel.
On 04-14-21 07:16, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Vk3jed wrote to Spectre <=-
I have seen a couple of cheap Androids that don't support QR codes natively, but my previous phone (which was Android) did work.
There are a ton of free apps that read QR codes on Android, but if
memory serves Samsung internet browser does. I used it heavily when I
had an old Samsung S5, loaded it on for grins because Chrome has
problem with wifi captive portals.
It used to be that there were a handful of extensions for it, now I
just see ad-blockers. It'd be a shame to lose a 3rd-party browser
that's not Firefox or Chrome.
On 04-14-21 16:59, paulie420 wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I have seen a couple of cheap Androids that don't support QR codes natively, but my previous phone (which was Android) did work.
I remember, even on iPhone, when you'd have to load up a secondary app
to view the QRs.
Then, like everything else, Apple decided to swoop it up and make it native when it got big enough - normal enough.
On 04-15-21 17:31, Al wrote to Underminer <=-
Re: Re: QR
By: Underminer to arelor on Thu Apr 15 2021 04:36 pm
It's 20 year old technology, let's get it together, people!
AMEN, brother!
I have no native IPv6 here at all on my current connection. I don't
know what the holdup is.
My father showing respect to me. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA now that
would be new.
(Mind you, my father runs life-critical machinery that is
WAY more complex than using a x504 certificate at work).
It is too bad I can't leave home. My father takes care all
the stuff forwarded to me is the sort of thing I am
interested to have done, so I can't tell him to do it and
count on it to be done.
I've had native IPv6 for 10 years, and it "just works". :)
Yes, I am with teksavvy. Teksavvy does support IPv6, it's something I looked into before switching to them about a year ago.
The support people at teksavvy tell me that my box does support IPv6 but for whatever reason shaw hasn't put it on the wire.
I have been holding using a tunnel thinking that surely shaw will provide IPv6. That doesn't seem to be the case so when I get some time I'll look into how that is done.
Hurricane Electric is currently the best option for us Canucks. Pretty straightforward process:
https://www.tunnelbroker.net/
My understanding from talking to various levels of support at both Teksavvy and Shaw for both my own connections and those of several
clients is that Teksavvysupports IPv6, but only for connections where
their upstream does as well, and only on some router/gateways.
Warpslide wrote to Underminer <=-
I was with Teksavvy for awhile through Rogers cable. When I first got
Then, like everything else, Apple decided to swoop it up and make it native when it got big enough - normal enough.
I was with Teksavvy for awhile..
I was with them for years. Even had a static IP I didn't
have to pay for as it was grandfathered in. However they
kept lowering my speeds down to 6mb service. I would call
to get it put back and I'd be charged the install fee again
because "Bell has to do it."
After the third time bell lowered me I just called and
cancelled. Told them "You steal too much in install fee's
so I can't deal anymore." Switched to fido and haven't
looked back. The BBS runs elsewhere now anyway.
On 04-16-21 06:51, Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I did have native here for about a year. I didn't know I was going to loose it when I switched providers. I had a dual stack and both 4 and 6 worked well.
I suppose sooner or later they'll have to make the switch. I'd prefer sooner but I'll just have to wait. :(
Spectre wrote to paulie420 <=-
Until our government launched a covid tracking app that used QR codes
for locations. It'd been so long since I'd seen one, I thought they'd already gone the way of the dinosaur. According to my GP there's an
awful lot of the population that have no idea what they are or how to
use them
Let's hope they do. How come you had to switch ISPs?
ISP's in Canada are struggling now with who owns what and
just what the cost of telecommunications should be. I hope
it'll all shake out in a workable way for the guy at the end
of the wire.
ISP's in Canada are struggling now with who owns what and
just what the cost of telecommunications should be. I hope
it'll all shake out in a workable way for the guy at the end
of the wire.
What's the news on the struggle?
The most recent thing that I learned about was the removal of
automatic overbilling after an established data quota was
reached. Instead, there emerged the approach to simply throttle
data users down, and promote data "unlimited".
The three major players are doing that. The player' "discount"
versions of their services (Chatr, Lucky, Public) do that too.
But what would be nicer is lower prices overall. Topping-up
with 200MB for $5 at a time is robbery.
The most recent thing that I learned about was the removal
of automatic overbilling after an established data quota
was reached. Instead, there emerged the approach to simply
throttle data users down, and promote data "unlimited".
Is that mobile data you speak of? I'm not a big consumer of
mobile data so I'm not up on what is happening around that
these days.
I've heard it applies to the hardwired domestic customers too.
From what I've read, not all packages are truly unlimited at
full speed. In the not too distant past, after a monthly quota
was reached, either the service would stop or only provide
sufficient speed to get mail. The satellite version for internet
was/is notorious for that.
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A proper CHRS kludge would help ... ;)
Ogg wrote to Tiny <=-
Bell limits/throttles everyone to 5Mbps! I'm with Acanac. They
offer 10Mbps as the lowest tier, but Bell trumps the end result.
I'm paying for the 25Mbps entry-point tier, but only getting
5Mbps DL and 0.6Mbps UL.
There's a new player in town. Northern RuralNet. They sound like
a nice group of folk. They advertise a 10Mbps entry tier. But I
don't think the averag customer checks the final speeds. It's
probably 5Mbps DL.
...There may not be too many use cases for this - since
service providers collect your data to use it in some way
(name, address, phone, pictures etc) and they want to use
that data without your specifically interacting ...
And for me, this should be compelling for businesses to look
at SQRL (vs being fined for leaking user's data). If they
push back that "management" of that data to me then they
dont need to be responsible for it :)
Imagine facebooks leak of 530m user details and them going
'meh' - because its "public keys" and by definition doesnt
directly identify a single person and cannot be used to
login to a single persons account.
I also read that the commercial services are reluctant to
embrace something like SQRL primarily because they lose the data
they they want to collect on a user.
The only niggly thing with SQRL is the initial setup of the keys
and the whole idea of keeping a backup of it. Even that part
still sounds confusing and terrifying to me. I really don't see
the average person careful enough to keep those things safe.
And.. should the user forget how to reproduce it, they are back
to square one to start all over again.
I always hoped I could have a QR code friends could scan to get the SSID and password to our home network.
The most recent thing that I learned about was the removal of
automatic overbilling after an established data quota was reached. Instead, there emerged the approach to simply throttle data users
down, and promote data "unlimited".
A proper CHRS kludge would help ... ;)
Yeah, Telegard doesn't do those...
Yeah, Telegard doesn't do those...
I don't know what they look like, but you could probably add one the
same way I add the TZ to mine. Grab the message on the way out of
the editor and prepend the kludge.
I also read that the commercial services are reluctant to
embrace something like SQRL primarily because they lose
the data they they want to collect on a user.
Oh really? I thought Steve covered that in one of his
videos. Essentially SQRL is only authentication - if you
want to capture "details" from a user (new or not), you can
still do that.
I personally think this effort is way better than the effort
used by trying to explan "that wasnt me" when your account
is compromised for whatever reason.
Anyway, its success is just not there - I can only hope I
guess...
I might see it as problem if people are actually using their
smartphones as the login device. You can't pretty much use a QR
code login sequence when the device it shows up on is the device
itself. Maybe a reverse L-R image version that you can use
against a mirror would work? :D
For the QR code, I tried uploading it in IceEdit but the formatting
got all messed up. Using the built in Telegard editor made it work
ok, but there's no opportunity to add a kludge that way.
I might see it as problem if people are actually using
their smartphones as the login device. You can't pretty
much use a QR code login sequence when the device it shows
up on is the device
Do you mean like a PC/laptop? You can! :)
There is a browser extension that can be installed on your
non-camera device (and if you can install extensions on
things like IPads then I guess that would work to).
On windows, I think there is a native client (I'm not a
windows user - so not sure) which does the same thing and
has a few more useful options. Sadly, the MAC client is not
as good and I had a lot of trouble getting it going.
On 04-17-21 10:37, Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Re: Re: QR
By: Vk3jed to Al on Sat Apr 17 2021 09:00 pm
Let's hope they do. How come you had to switch ISPs?
It was cost. My lady friend was cranky about that and I had to agree
that ISP was charging to much. It was great at first, for 6 months they gave us this much service for this much cost. I knew that was going to
go up but I didn't think it would double the way it did. It just wasn't worth the cost.
ISP's in Canada are struggling now with who owns what and just what the cost of telecommunications should be. I hope it'll all shake out in a workable way for the guy at the end of the wire.
Ahh, fair enough. Mine's not the cheapest, but they've been great for well over a decade. :)
I don't need the cheapest ISP, on the other hand I don't want to be
broke after I pay for the service either.. ;)
Currently I pay $60 a month, the previous ISP was $90.
Currently I pay $60 a month, the previous ISP was $90.
I currently pay $92.99 ($105.08 w/ tax) for gigabit down & 30Mb up with Rogers via cable. This was fine when I was allowed to expense my home internet with my old job, but my new job doesn't allow that.
I was looking at trying to lower my internet bill but the package we're currently on is now $119.99 /mo while their "least expensive" unlimited package is $84.99 for 50 down & 10 up.
I *could* switch (back) to Teksavvy and get 150 down & 15 up for $77.95 or 75 down & 10 up for $68.95 (both plus tax of course). But I'm not sure about only saving $15 /mo and going down from gigabit to 150Mb.
Fiber is available here but my building hasn't been wired for it yet.
If they ever get that done I will likely move to fiber.
I get 60 down and 6 or 10 up for $60. I was paying $90+ with telus
for 50 down and 6 up with a dsl service, so I lowered my cost and
upped my speed. :)
One number I look at is the upload speed since that is important
on the BBS.
Warpslide wrote to Al <=-
I *could* switch (back) to Teksavvy and get 150 down & 15 up for $77.95
or 75 down & 10 up for $68.95 (both plus tax of course). But I'm not
sure about only saving $15 /mo and going down from gigabit to 150Mb.
On 04-21-21 15:50, Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Re: Re: QR
By: Vk3jed to Al on Wed Apr 21 2021 08:25 pm
Ahh, fair enough. Mine's not the cheapest, but they've been great for well over a decade. :)
I don't need the cheapest ISP, on the other hand I don't want to be
broke after I pay for the service either.. ;)
Currently I pay $60 a month, the previous ISP was $90.
Currently I pay $60 a month, the previous ISP was $90.
Without knowing what you get for each, it's hard to make a comparison. :)
On 04-23-21 14:45, Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Re: Re: QR
By: Vk3jed to Al on Fri Apr 23 2021 08:12 pm
Currently I pay $60 a month, the previous ISP was $90.
Without knowing what you get for each, it's hard to make a comparison. :)
The plan with my previous ISP was 50 down and 6 up on a dsl connection.
In testing the download speed was somewhere between 25 and 50.
With my current ISP the plan is 60 down and 6 up. In testing I get
close to 70 down and 7 up.
I also lost (at least for now) IPv6. Shaw is the provider in this case
and they do support IPv6 but for some reason they haven't put it on the wire for my router to pick up. The IPv6 prefix is blank on the setup
page.
That's an improvement. I get around 80 down, 35 up
Hmm, bummer. If they support it, maybe give them a call to turn it on?
On 04-24-21 15:38, Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Hmm, bummer. If they support it, maybe give them a call to turn it on?
I would but my ISP is Teksavvy. I have no contact with Shaw.
There must be some technical reason for that. I have a hunch the reason
is $$$ since Shaw and other ISPs have put up a legal fight to keep
prices high in Canada.
I would but my ISP is Teksavvy. I have no contact with Shaw.
Hmm, I hink you're crossing threads here, regerring to too many things as "it", confusing things. ;)
Shaw is the one who will or will not put IPv6 on the wire but I have no contact or account with them, they don't know me or who I am despite the fact my service comes from them. I have talked with Teksavvy, who I do have an account with but it is
beyond their control.
Have you throught about using a tunnel from he.net in the mean time?
I used it before I had my own IPv6 and it worked well.
On 04-27-21 16:18, Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Shaw is the one who will or will not put IPv6 on the wire but I have no contact or account with them, they don't know me or who I am despite
the fact my service comes from them. I have talked with Teksavvy, who I
do have an account with but it is beyond their control.
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