http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/07/green-mp-threatens-new-election-if-labour-goes-with-nz-first.html

What do they expect? Labour always shafted them because they rolled over and accepted it. They can only ever be kept in the cupboard when Winston is wearing
the pants.

So, who still really believes that a Labour-NZF-Green coalition is actually possible?

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On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:34:32 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/07/green-mp-threatens-new-election-if-labour-goes-with-nz-first.html

What do they expect? Labour always shafted them because they rolled over and accepted it. They can only ever be kept in the cupboard when Winston is wearing

the pants.

So, who still really believes that a Labour-NZF-Green coalition is actually possible?

So for National to be defeated, Labour and the Greens will have to win
enough seats to form a government. While nothing is impossible this
seems very unlikely.

This gives National a powerful edge - a vote for National is a vote
for a stable, full-term government.


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On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:59:19 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:34:32 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/07/green-mp-threatens-new-election-if-labour-goes-with-nz-first.html

What do they expect? Labour always shafted them because they rolled over and accepted it. They can only ever be kept in the cupboard when Winston is wearing

the pants.

So, who still really believes that a Labour-NZF-Green coalition is actually possible?

So for National to be defeated, Labour and the Greens will have to win
enough seats to form a government. While nothing is impossible this
seems very unlikely.

This gives National a powerful edge - a vote for National is a vote
for a stable, full-term government.

This time before the last election National were polling 52% - now
they are polling 47%. The Maori party are unlikely to get as many
seats as last time, ACT is safe with 1, but Peter Dunne may lose
Ohariu.

So you are looking at National / NZ First as a stable, full term
government? Really?

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On Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:09:01 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:59:19 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:34:32 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >wrote:

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/07/green-mp-threatens-new-election-if-labour-goes-with-nz-first.html

What do they expect? Labour always shafted them because they rolled over

and accepted it. They can only ever be kept in the cupboard when Winston is wearing the pants.

So, who still really believes that a Labour-NZF-Green coalition is actually

possible?

So for National to be defeated, Labour and the Greens will have to win >enough seats to form a government. While nothing is impossible this
seems very unlikely.

This gives National a powerful edge - a vote for National is a vote
for a stable, full-term government.

This time before the last election National were polling 52% - now
they are polling 47%. The Maori party are unlikely to get as many
seats as last time, ACT is safe with 1, but Peter Dunne may lose
Ohariu.

So you are looking at National / NZ First as a stable, full term
government? Really?

Cherry picking polls, Dickbot? Sad. But The last election we figured Winston was kingmaker. No difference this time. But to answer your question, of course a Nat NZF coalition is more stable than a Lab-NZF-Grn coalition in which the Greens and NZF hate
each others' guts.

This time last election we were gobsmacked and amused by the prospect of Labour
polling numbers starting with a '2'. Now that's the norm with Labour entrenched
in the 20's. The opposition is lame and pathetic.

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On 13/07/2017 10:34 AM, JohnO wrote:

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/07/green-mp-threatens-new-election-if-labour-goes-with-nz-first.html

What do they expect? Labour always shafted them because they rolled over and

accepted it. They can only ever be kept in the cupboard when Winston is wearing
the pants.

So, who still really believes that a Labour-NZF-Green coalition is actually

possible?


Labour does, and Greens will like it or lump it. Winston's bottom line
is Prime Minister role. Labour and Greens will wear that because neither
of them could provide a leader - so how does Labour, Greens and Winston
first with Winnie as boss sound? Not impossible.

bnVsbA==

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On Friday, 14 July 2017 11:33:27 UTC+12, Fred wrote:

On 13/07/2017 10:34 AM, JohnO wrote:

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/07/green-mp-threatens-new-election-if-labour-goes-with-nz-first.html

What do they expect? Labour always shafted them because they rolled over

and accepted it. They can only ever be kept in the cupboard when Winston is wearing the pants.

So, who still really believes that a Labour-NZF-Green coalition is actually

possible?

Labour does, and Greens will like it or lump it. Winston's bottom line
is Prime Minister role. Labour and Greens will wear that because neither
of them could provide a leader - so how does Labour, Greens and Winston
first with Winnie as boss sound? Not impossible.

Nah, it's impossible. Winston and the Greens are clearly not going to tolerate each other.

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On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 08:40:36 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

On 7/15/2017 4:34 PM, Crash wrote:

Rich, National and NZF have already been through a full term in
Government - the result of the first MMP election. National enter as
the dominant party with previous experience of having NZF in
government.

In contrast Labour forming a government with less than 30% support
would have to have more than one other party and starts from a weaker
bargaining position compared to National.

rich once again seems to be unable to report the actual numbers published.
Is that liebor poll what Little claims or what was leaked?

At the moment anything on the left is in conflict with everything else
on or possibly on the left.

And Little. Poor beggar. If the poll figures are anything to go by he's
not an electorate MP so liebor wont have to get rid of him. The low
polls will do that..

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It seems Avast doesnt pick up troll-spin!

Labour is on exactly the same as at this time before the last
election; the Greens are one percent up but that is really about the
same. Neither is good, but it may be enough..

National is 5% down on this time before the last election, and NZ
First is up 5%. Peter Dunne has a fight on his hands (again), and the
Maori Party seems to have given up.

Judith Collins for opposition leader?

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On 7/15/2017 4:34 PM, Crash wrote:

Rich, National and NZF have already been through a full term in
Government - the result of the first MMP election. National enter as
the dominant party with previous experience of having NZF in
government.

In contrast Labour forming a government with less than 30% support
would have to have more than one other party and starts from a weaker bargaining position compared to National.

rich once again seems to be unable to report the actual numbers published.
Is that liebor poll what Little claims or what was leaked?

At the moment anything on the left is in conflict with everything else
on or possibly on the left.

And Little. Poor beggar. If the poll figures are anything to go by he's
not an electorate MP so liebor wont have to get rid of him. The low
polls will do that..


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On 14/07/2017 12:31 PM, JohnO wrote:

On Friday, 14 July 2017 11:33:27 UTC+12, Fred wrote:

On 13/07/2017 10:34 AM, JohnO wrote:

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/07/green-mp-threatens-new-election-if-labour-goes-with-nz-first.html

What do they expect? Labour always shafted them because they rolled over and accepted it. They can only ever be kept in the cupboard when Winston is wearing the pants.

So, who still really believes that a Labour-NZF-Green coalition is actually

possible?

Labour does, and Greens will like it or lump it. Winston's bottom line
is Prime Minister role. Labour and Greens will wear that because neither
of them could provide a leader - so how does Labour, Greens and Winston
first with Winnie as boss sound? Not impossible.

Nah, it's impossible. Winston and the Greens are clearly not going to

tolerate each other.

Don't overlook the power of baubles dangled before Winston, and I
suspect the Greens would cave in if given a portfolio reflecting their
18th century outlook.

bnVsbA==

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On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 09:07:27 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 08:40:36 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

On 7/15/2017 4:34 PM, Crash wrote:

Rich, National and NZF have already been through a full term in
Government - the result of the first MMP election. National enter as
the dominant party with previous experience of having NZF in
government.

In contrast Labour forming a government with less than 30% support
would have to have more than one other party and starts from a weaker
bargaining position compared to National.

rich once again seems to be unable to report the actual numbers published. >>Is that liebor poll what Little claims or what was leaked?

At the moment anything on the left is in conflict with everything else
on or possibly on the left.

And Little. Poor beggar. If the poll figures are anything to go by he's
not an electorate MP so liebor wont have to get rid of him. The low
polls will do that..


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It seems Avast doesnt pick up troll-spin!

Labour is on exactly the same as at this time before the last
election; the Greens are one percent up but that is really about the
same. Neither is good, but it may be enough..

Oh no it wont.

National is 5% down on this time before the last election, and NZ
First is up 5%. Peter Dunne has a fight on his hands (again), and the
Maori Party seems to have given up.

So National is currently down 5%? To what number Rich? How does that
compare to where Labour are now?

Judith Collins for opposition leader?

I doubt Judith Collins would defect to Labour.....




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On 13/07/2017 10:34 a.m., JohnO wrote:

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/07/green-mp-threatens-new-election-if-labour-goes-with-nz-first.html

What do they expect? Labour always shafted them because they rolled over and

accepted it. They can only ever be kept in the cupboard when Winston is wearing
the pants.

So, who still really believes that a Labour-NZF-Green coalition is actually

possible?

Rich! But then he'll believe anything to support his delusion that
Labour is the best party to govern New Zealand :)

Pooh

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On 13/07/2017 10:08 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:59:19 +1200, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid>
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:34:32 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/07/green-mp-threatens-new-election-if-labour-goes-with-nz-first.html

What do they expect? Labour always shafted them because they rolled over and accepted it. They can only ever be kept in the cupboard when Winston is wearing the pants.

So, who still really believes that a Labour-NZF-Green coalition is actually

possible?

So for National to be defeated, Labour and the Greens will have to win
enough seats to form a government. While nothing is impossible this
seems very unlikely.

This gives National a powerful edge - a vote for National is a vote
for a stable, full-term government.

This time before the last election National were polling 52% - now
they are polling 47%. The Maori party are unlikely to get as many
seats as last time, ACT is safe with 1, but Peter Dunne may lose
Ohariu.

So you are looking at National / NZ First as a stable, full term
government? Really?

Far more stable than the benefit fraudsters and Labour Rich. Hell the
Greens and Winston First are at each others throats and Little might not
even get into parliament if they sink much further :)
Pooh

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On 16/07/2017 9:07 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:

On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 08:40:36 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

On 7/15/2017 4:34 PM, Crash wrote:

Rich, National and NZF have already been through a full term in
Government - the result of the first MMP election. National enter as
the dominant party with previous experience of having NZF in
government.

In contrast Labour forming a government with less than 30% support
would have to have more than one other party and starts from a weaker
bargaining position compared to National.

rich once again seems to be unable to report the actual numbers published. >> Is that liebor poll what Little claims or what was leaked?

At the moment anything on the left is in conflict with everything else
on or possibly on the left.

And Little. Poor beggar. If the poll figures are anything to go by he's
not an electorate MP so liebor wont have to get rid of him. The low
polls will do that..


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It seems Avast doesnt pick up troll-spin!

Funny George seems to pick up your posts without any trouble Rich.

Labour is on exactly the same as at this time before the last
election; the Greens are one percent up but that is really about the
same. Neither is good, but it may be enough..

Except they hadn't brought in slave labour to help them electioneer Rich
and the Greens hadn't admitted to supporting benefit fraudsters.

National is 5% down on this time before the last election, and NZ
First is up 5%. Peter Dunne has a fight on his hands (again), and the
Maori Party seems to have given up.

Yet the majority are happy with the governments performance. Funny how
this can happen while Rich and Labour are crowing about the governments
polling is dropping.

Judith Collins for opposition leader?

Nope that'll probably be Jacinda or someone who wins a seat. Especially
if Labour can't make the 23% needed to get Little in :)

Pooh

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