In a demostration that there is a deep divide within the National
Party over the question of whether there is any place for putting
principle and ethics over a total concern for money, a rogue MP has
directly put himslef off side with the faction currently in power.
This break from traditional is said to be a desperate attempt to stave
off looming electoral defeat, but could result in a total split of the
party - past leaders must be looking in shock at how rapidly the
famous strong internal discipline has disintegrated. http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/02/national-mp-condemns-trump-s-ban-but-pm-won-t.html

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On 9/02/2017 9:02 AM, Rich80105 wrote:

In a demostration that there is a deep divide within the National
Party over the question of whether there is any place for putting
principle and ethics over a total concern for money, a rogue MP has
directly put himslef off side with the faction currently in power.
This break from traditional is said to be a desperate attempt to stave
off looming electoral defeat, but could result in a total split of the
party - past leaders must be looking in shock at how rapidly the
famous strong internal discipline has disintegrated. http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/02/national-mp-condemns-trump-s-ban-but-pm-won-t.html

What an absolute load of tripe your on about. If you are worried about
party divisions divisions think about a strange character named Jackson
- Little's new mate. And while I'm at it you must be thrilled to have
the second most dismal character in NZ standing for Labour. The ex spin
doctor for the plods.

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On Thursday, 9 February 2017 09:02:14 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:

In a demostration that there is a deep divide within the National
Party over the question of whether there is any place for putting
principle and ethics over a total concern for money, a rogue MP has
directly put himslef off side with the faction currently in power.
This break from traditional is said to be a desperate attempt to stave
off looming electoral defeat, but could result in a total split of the
party - past leaders must be looking in shock at how rapidly the
famous strong internal discipline has disintegrated. http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/02/national-mp-condemns-trump-s-ban-but-pm-won-t.html

Someone order me a new irony meter - Dickbot just blew up the old one.

This story is a non issue. A speck of nothing. And Dickbot has picked it up straight of theStranded - the only source of 'truth and knowledge' he knows.

You want to see a party in disarray? Try this: https://thestandard.org.nz/labour-spokesperson-for-family-and-sexual-violence-poto-williams-on-willie-jackson/

Poto Williams hired a PR agency to help her put this out! Imagine, a Labour MP spending money to stab her own leader in the back.

And read the comments. The activist Labour rump don't want a bar of Willie, and
are very unhappy with Angry Andy over this.

It just keeps coming from all directions: http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2017/02/08/poto-williams-hired-pr-company-to-attack-willie-jacksonandrew-little/

Left and right: http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/02/a_subtle_sledge_of_little_from_maryan_street.html

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/02/labour_mp_hired_pr_firm_to_help_her_attack_leaders_decision.html

Make no mistake. This is Angry Andy's 'two dead snapper' moment. His 'show me the money' moment. His 'sorry I'm a man' moment.

Labour and its leaders. Absolutely hopeless.

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On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 09:02:09 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:

In a demostration that there is a deep divide....

I know what you mean.

It must be very embarrassing for the Labour Party to have Poto
Williams disagreeing so publicly with Andrew Little over the
recruitment and the promise of a high list placement for Willie
Jackson.

Bill.

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On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:44:50 +1300, BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:

On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 09:02:09 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:

In a demostration that there is a deep divide within the National
Party over the question of whether there is any place for putting
principle and ethics over a total concern for money, a rogue MP has >>directly put himslef off side with the faction currently in power.
This break from traditional is said to be a desperate attempt to stave
off looming electoral defeat, but could result in a total split of the >>party - past leaders must be looking in shock at how rapidly the
famous strong internal discipline has disintegrated.
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/02/national-mp-condemns-trump-s-ban-but-pm-won-t.html

I know what you mean.

Bill.

I'm glad you agree Bill.

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On 9/02/2017 9:02 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:

In a demostration that there is a deep divide within the National
Party over the question of whether there is any place for putting
principle and ethics over a total concern for money, a rogue MP has
directly put himslef off side with the faction currently in power.
This break from traditional is said to be a desperate attempt to stave
off looming electoral defeat, but could result in a total split of the
party - past leaders must be looking in shock at how rapidly the
famous strong internal discipline has disintegrated. http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/02/national-mp-condemns-trump-s-ban-but-pm-won-t.html

Don't reply to the troll it only encourages him to lie :)

Besides which as is usual for the trolling Trotskyite he's confusing
National with Labour. Comes from a lifetime lack of comprehension skills.

Pooh

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On 9/02/2017 9:02 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:

In a demostration that there is a deep divide within the National
Party over the question of whether there is any place for putting
principle and ethics over a total concern for money, a rogue MP has
directly put himslef off side with the faction currently in power.
This break from traditional is said to be a desperate attempt to stave
off looming electoral defeat, but could result in a total split of the
party - past leaders must be looking in shock at how rapidly the
famous strong internal discipline has disintegrated. http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/02/national-mp-condemns-trump-s-ban-but-pm-won-t.html

You want to see what real disarray looks like Rich. Try this: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/89213107/open-letter-to-andrew-little-bears-names-of-three-exmps


All that's happening is that a newshub was short of anything worthwhile
so pushed their anti-Trump attitude. Besides the so called ban is in
fact a moratorium while they figure out a way to vet Moslem from
country's with a long history of hate towards America to ensure they
have no ties to such great a peaceful groups as Isil, Hammas, or other terrorist groups loved by all new soviet men like you Rich.

Pooh

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On 9/02/2017 11:16 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:

On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:44:50 +1300, BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:

On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 09:02:09 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:

In a demostration that there is a deep divide within the National
Party over the question of whether there is any place for putting
principle and ethics over a total concern for money, a rogue MP has
directly put himslef off side with the faction currently in power.
This break from traditional is said to be a desperate attempt to stave
off looming electoral defeat, but could result in a total split of the
party - past leaders must be looking in shock at how rapidly the
famous strong internal discipline has disintegrated.
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/02/national-mp-condemns-trump-s-ban-but-pm-won-t.html

I know what you mean.

Bill.

I'm glad you agree Bill.

You forgot this bit Rich "It must be very embarrassing for the Labour
Party to have Poto Williams disagreeing so publicly with Andrew Little
over the recruitment and the promise of a high list placement for Willie Jackson". Just lack of technical skills or practising the latest left
approach to honesty about Labour? https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/02/trotter-latest-left-wing-fad-silencing-disagree/

Pooh

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On 9/02/2017 10:53 a.m., JohnO wrote:

On Thursday, 9 February 2017 09:02:14 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:

In a demostration that there is a deep divide within the National
Party over the question of whether there is any place for putting
principle and ethics over a total concern for money, a rogue MP has
directly put himslef off side with the faction currently in power.
This break from traditional is said to be a desperate attempt to stave
off looming electoral defeat, but could result in a total split of the
party - past leaders must be looking in shock at how rapidly the
famous strong internal discipline has disintegrated.
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/02/national-mp-condemns-trump-s-ban-but-pm-won-t.html

Someone order me a new irony meter - Dickbot just blew up the old one.

This story is a non issue. A speck of nothing. And Dickbot has picked it up

straight of theStranded - the only source of 'truth and knowledge' he knows.

You want to see a party in disarray? Try this: https://thestandard.org.nz/labour-spokesperson-for-family-and-sexual-violence-poto-williams-on-willie-jackson/

Poto Williams hired a PR agency to help her put this out! Imagine, a Labour

MP spending money to stab her own leader in the back.

And read the comments. The activist Labour rump don't want a bar of Willie,

and are very unhappy with Angry Andy over this.

It just keeps coming from all directions: http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2017/02/08/poto-williams-hired-pr-company-to-attack-willie-jacksonandrew-little/

Left and right: http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/02/a_subtle_sledge_of_little_from_maryan_street.html

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/02/labour_mp_hired_pr_firm_to_help_her_attack_leaders_decision.html

Make no mistake. This is Angry Andy's 'two dead snapper' moment. His 'show me

the money' moment. His 'sorry I'm a man' moment.

Labour and its leaders. Absolutely hopeless.

But Angry Andy has a cunning plan first used here by Rich the trolling
Trotsky twit :https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/02/trotter-latest-left-wing-fad-silencing-disagree/

Pity it'll be about as effective from Angry little Andy as it has been
for Rich:)

Pooh

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On Thursday, 9 February 2017 10:53:24 UTC+13, JohnO wrote:

On Thursday, 9 February 2017 09:02:14 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:

In a demostration that there is a deep divide within the National
Party over the question of whether there is any place for putting
principle and ethics over a total concern for money, a rogue MP has directly put himslef off side with the faction currently in power.
This break from traditional is said to be a desperate attempt to stave
off looming electoral defeat, but could result in a total split of the party - past leaders must be looking in shock at how rapidly the
famous strong internal discipline has disintegrated. http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/02/national-mp-condemns-trump-s-ban-but-pm-won-t.html

Someone order me a new irony meter - Dickbot just blew up the old one.

This story is a non issue. A speck of nothing. And Dickbot has picked it up

straight of theStranded - the only source of 'truth and knowledge' he knows.

You want to see a party in disarray? Try this: https://thestandard.org.nz/labour-spokesperson-for-family-and-sexual-violence-poto-williams-on-willie-jackson/

Poto Williams hired a PR agency to help her put this out! Imagine, a Labour

MP spending money to stab her own leader in the back.

And read the comments. The activist Labour rump don't want a bar of Willie,

and are very unhappy with Angry Andy over this.

It just keeps coming from all directions: http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2017/02/08/poto-williams-hired-pr-company-to-attack-willie-jacksonandrew-little/

Left and right: http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/02/a_subtle_sledge_of_little_from_maryan_street.html

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/02/labour_mp_hired_pr_firm_to_help_her_attack_leaders_decision.html

Make no mistake. This is Angry Andy's 'two dead snapper' moment. His 'show me

the money' moment. His 'sorry I'm a man' moment.

Labour and its leaders. Absolutely hopeless.

Even Labour cheerleader Andrea Vance is absolutely slamming them - calling this
debacle an even deeper low than Cunliffe's "sorry I'm a man" disaster.

Read and enjoy this flaying: https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/opinion-wait-poto-williams-one-apologising

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On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 23:16:56 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:

I know what you mean.

Bill.

I'm glad you agree Bill.

You walked right into that didn't you Rich80105?

Bill.

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