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    From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, November 26, 2016 09:07:19
    You would think the Ministry of Social Development would appreciate
    volunteers helping ensure that applicants for assistance have correct documentation and know what they are entitled to - but it doesn't work
    that way under the current government . . . http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/police-called-on-group-helping-beneficiaries-get-entitlements-2016112518

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Friday, November 25, 2016 15:10:01
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    You would think the Ministry of Social Development would appreciate >volunteers helping ensure that applicants for assistance have correct >documentation and know what they are entitled to - but it doesn't work
    that way under the current government . . . >http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/police-called-on-group-helping-beneficiaries-get-entitlements-2016112518
    Clearly we do not know the whole story, it is not in the report.
    The organiser has a history of aggressively targetting WINZ and causing disruption. He seems to enjoy stirring people up and with the attacks on WINZ staff that go back 15 years or more it is unsurprising that people get nervous. But then you can't see the other side of anything can you?
    Tony

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, November 26, 2016 12:15:18
    On 26/11/2016 9:07 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    You would think the Ministry of Social Development would appreciate volunteers helping ensure that applicants for assistance have correct documentation and know what they are entitled to - but it doesn't work
    that way under the current government . . . http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/police-called-on-group-helping-beneficiaries-get-entitlements-2016112518

    The AAAP has a reputation for threatening behaviour Rich. After the
    various attacks on WINZ it's not surprising that WINZ get nervous when
    this aspect of Labours rent_a_mob appears outside an office. They
    wouldn't have been threatened with trespass notices if they weren't
    merited because despite your constant lies bout the police they can only operate within the law. Whereas none of Labours rent_a_mob have ever
    done so. Hell they're like Labour they think they're above the law!

    Pooh

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  • From Gordon@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Saturday, November 26, 2016 04:28:15
    On 2016-11-25, Rich80105 <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    You would think the Ministry of Social Development would appreciate volunteers helping ensure that applicants for assistance have correct documentation and know what they are entitled to - but it doesn't work
    that way under the current government . . . http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/police-called-on-group-helping-beneficiaries-get-entitlements-2016112518

    Rich, you would think that nz.general was about more than poltical views,
    when there is a a ng called nz.politics.

    Look it is just that WINZ is whining at the extra workload and some not so patient people.

    So, try another spin direction eh? Try nz.poltics. That goes for all of you blame the other side folks.

    Yeah right!

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to Gordon on Friday, November 25, 2016 22:37:56
    Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2016-11-25, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    You would think the Ministry of Social Development would appreciate >>>volunteers helping ensure that applicants for assistance have correct >>>documentation and know what they are entitled to - but it doesn't work >>>that way under the current government . . . >>>http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/police-called-on-group-helping-beneficiaries-get-entitlements-2016112518
    Clearly we do not know the whole story, it is not in the report.
    The organiser has a history of aggressively targetting WINZ and causing
    disruption. He seems to enjoy stirring people up and with the attacks on >>WINZ
    staff that go back 15 years or more it is unsurprising that people get >>nervous.
    But then you can't see the other side of anything can you?

    How do you or I know? Rich is just like an actor, playing a part in this >ng.It does appear that he is getting close to pressing your button(s).
    He has no show of doing that, he would have to matter to me before that happened.
    However he is a liar and I do unashamedly hate liars and people like him who will do all possible to personally denigrate others!
    Tony

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  • From Gordon@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, November 26, 2016 04:32:13
    On 2016-11-25, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    You would think the Ministry of Social Development would appreciate >>volunteers helping ensure that applicants for assistance have correct >>documentation and know what they are entitled to - but it doesn't work
    that way under the current government . . . >>http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/police-called-on-group-helping-beneficiaries-get-entitlements-2016112518
    Clearly we do not know the whole story, it is not in the report.
    The organiser has a history of aggressively targetting WINZ and causing disruption. He seems to enjoy stirring people up and with the attacks on WINZ staff that go back 15 years or more it is unsurprising that people get
    nervous.
    But then you can't see the other side of anything can you?

    How do you or I know? Rich is just like an actor, playing a part in this
    ng.It does appear that he is getting close to pressing your button(s).

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to Gordon on Saturday, November 26, 2016 23:01:34
    On 26 Nov 2016 04:32:13 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2016-11-25, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    You would think the Ministry of Social Development would appreciate >>>volunteers helping ensure that applicants for assistance have correct >>>documentation and know what they are entitled to - but it doesn't work >>>that way under the current government . . . >>>http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/police-called-on-group-helping-beneficiaries-get-entitlements-2016112518
    Clearly we do not know the whole story, it is not in the report.
    The organiser has a history of aggressively targetting WINZ and causing
    disruption. He seems to enjoy stirring people up and with the attacks on WINZ
    staff that go back 15 years or more it is unsurprising that people get nervous.
    But then you can't see the other side of anything can you?

    How do you or I know?
    Since Tony offers no evidence to support his allegations, we certainly
    do not know - but that its typical of many posts from those who do not
    hesitate to hold others to a higher standard.


    Rich is just like an actor, playing a part in this
    ng.It does appear that he is getting close to pressing your button(s).

    I don;t know what "part" you think I was playing, but the article sets
    out at lesat part of the events - for example it is clear that MSD
    staff did call the police to try and get those waiting to get
    applications for benefits processed to be cleared from the street. An explanation for that action has not been given . . .

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, November 27, 2016 19:46:18
    On 26/11/2016 11:01 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On 26 Nov 2016 04:32:13 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2016-11-25, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    You would think the Ministry of Social Development would appreciate
    volunteers helping ensure that applicants for assistance have correct
    documentation and know what they are entitled to - but it doesn't work >>>> that way under the current government . . .
    http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/police-called-on-group-helping-beneficiaries-get-entitlements-2016112518
    Clearly we do not know the whole story, it is not in the report.
    The organiser has a history of aggressively targetting WINZ and causing
    disruption. He seems to enjoy stirring people up and with the attacks on WINZ
    staff that go back 15 years or more it is unsurprising that people get nervous.
    But then you can't see the other side of anything can you?

    How do you or I know?
    Since Tony offers no evidence to support his allegations, we certainly
    do not know - but that its typical of many posts from those who do not hesitate to hold others to a higher standard.


    Rich is just like an actor, playing a part in this
    ng.It does appear that he is getting close to pressing your button(s).

    I don;t know what "part" you think I was playing, but the article sets
    out at lesat part of the events - for example it is clear that MSD
    staff did call the police to try and get those waiting to get
    applications for benefits processed to be cleared from the street. An explanation for that action has not been given . . .


    You had ANY experience of MSD and the process you go through to get a
    benefit? My bet is that as usual you will have absolutely NO experience
    of the process and your posts (as with most of your posts) demonstrate
    your ignorance.For starters you're not expected to fill out the forms on
    the street!

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to Gordon on Sunday, November 27, 2016 19:48:03
    On 26/11/2016 5:28 p.m., Gordon wrote:
    On 2016-11-25, Rich80105 <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    You would think the Ministry of Social Development would appreciate
    volunteers helping ensure that applicants for assistance have correct
    documentation and know what they are entitled to - but it doesn't work
    that way under the current government . . .
    http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/police-called-on-group-helping-beneficiaries-get-entitlements-2016112518

    Rich, you would think that nz.general was about more than poltical views, when there is a a ng called nz.politics.

    Look it is just that WINZ is whining at the extra workload and some not so patient people.

    So, try another spin direction eh? Try nz.poltics. That goes for all of you blame the other side folks.

    Yeah right!


    Nope. nz.politics is full of idiots that make Rich look brightish.

    Pooh

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