• Re: another potentially useful drug?

    From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 13:06:56
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 2:07:57 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    A drug being used to fight coronavirus seemingly cured 90% of patients in
    a groundbreaking trial – with work now under way to make it widely available worldwide.

    The COVID-19 patients were diagnosed as severe or critical at two separate hospitals in the eastern province of Anhui in China.

    They were given the drug tocilizumab along with routine therapy between February 5 and February 14.

    If analysis into the trial confirms it to be truly effective, it could
    have profound consequences for mankind in helping to tackle the worldwide pandemic.

    Tocilizumab, otherwise known as Actemra and produced by the Swiss pharmaceutical firm Roche, is typically used to combat arthritis.

    After just a few days, the patients’ fever returned to normal and all other symptoms improved.

    Fifteen of the 20 patients involved in the trial were able to have their oxygen intake lowered, and 19 were discharged on average 13.5 days after the treatment.

    The study concludes: “Tocilizumab is an effective treatment in severe patients of COVID-19, which provided a new therapeutic strategy for this fatal infectious disease.”

    Tocilizumab helps lower high Interleukin 6 (IL-6) protein levels which drive some inflammatory diseases.

    Genetech, a biotechnology company based in the US, is now launching a
    trial to assess whether tocilizumab can be used to treat adults in America – the country with the 3rd highest deaths – with severe COVID-19.

    ### - you'd imagine they'd move heaven & earth to test these things in a hurry wouldn't ya? especially after mr-t mentioning it a few times to the whole planet...

    but not even a dickie-bird to be heard about them here though + am sure they'd be no end of volunteers ready to try them seeing as there isn't ANYTHING else on offer except toughing it out??

    i mean, it's not like these very well known + tested-safe to use
    substances have many known side effects either unless one just so happens to be massively allergic to them in some way? (or ya consume the version intended for fish lol)

    new cases could therefore be asked if they'd be willing to trial them for example, many of which prolly would, and the results compared in an on-going process, the stats of which would then speak for themselves compared to the group that doesn't wanna try them in terms of how it then develops or not in either group!

    that they'd HAVE some of those stats by now if they'd started trialling them straight away?

    not to mention that they've 'known' about these things since china started using them weeks ago??

    wtf! we're too slow aren't we!

    (we're slow learners heh, slightly retarded actually...)

    It's shock Slides. I've had a hard life, so have you and Chris
    has acquired some sense of being a survivalist For a lot of
    people this is the first period of their life spent under the
    threat of death in a world gone mad. In my reality that is the
    normal status quo. So is being alone 99.5% of the time and being
    a good friend to my self and a good steward of my responsibilities.
    I bought masks on January 30 just days before they were wiped off
    the shelf.

    One baby step at a time I'm going to walk through this gauntlet of obstacles.

    []

    https://youtu.be/JFW1Hu35tsw
    Swervedriver - Last Train To Satanville


    "You look like you've been losin' sleep"
    Said a stranger on a train

    I fixed him with an ice cold stare
    And said "I've been havin' those dreams again"

    In one dream there's this girl I know
    And we dance every wakin' breath

    And in the other they've thrown me in a cell
    And they're tryin' me for her death

    I'm only young and young in love,
    As I hold that girl today

    But I'm old and tired and in the cell
    And I've nigh on withered away

    why'see my babe has gone away too long
    I'm chokin' back the tears

    Disheveled star in a burnt out bar
    I'm talkin' in my drink

    She promised me the world and more
    How could she do this to me?

    And now mine's tumblin' down around
    But at least my eyes can see
    And those stars in the sky are for me

    So as this fagged-out tinsel town
    Waves so-long to the sun

    I lay here calmly on my bed,
    And the trigger of my gun

    Should that no good woman show up,
    Dancin' from a dream

    I'll squeeze it twice,
    And not think twice,
    And relish every scream......

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 21:50:04
    From: slider@anashram.com

    LowRider wrote...


    wtf! we're too slow aren't we!

    (we're slow learners heh, slightly retarded actually...)

    It's shock Slides. I've had a hard life, so have you and Chris
    has acquired some sense of being a survivalist For a lot of
    people this is the first period of their life spent under the
    threat of death in a world gone mad.

    ### - well they were pretty slow even before this heh, but point
    taken/accepted nonetheless, major routines have all gone out the window
    and so people are having to think more for themselves (no surprise then if
    it's very selfish to begin with, although it's all mainly reactionary as
    peeps pull-in their tentacles in a kinda: wot?? reaction haha)


    In my reality that is the
    normal status quo. So is being alone 99.5% of the time and being
    a good friend to my self and a good steward of my responsibilities.
    I bought masks on January 30 just days before they were wiped off
    the shelf.

    ### - i actually like this side of you if that's worth anything; you're
    calm, clear & collected (which btw is the definition of cool) and not
    raving about 'god' or vengeance or anything too abstract nor right-wing
    (and that's good 'coz we don't need that...) so keep it up :)




    One baby step at a time I'm going to walk through this gauntlet of
    obstacles.

    ### - methinks there's a bit of a poet in you somewhere there Art, the
    real deal as opposed to just another wordsmith i mean, and that's a
    complement! (and ya don't get many of those to the kilo from the likes of people like moi hah!) "this gauntlet of obstacles" feeling so much better
    than 'veil of tears' and/or 'valley of the shadow of' etc, your above
    version speaking of objectivity and clarity, and yes, even courage too...
    and so wouldn't be at all surprised if you come through all this totally unscathed... just stay as nice as you are and don't let anything change
    you ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ZJui3aPoQ

    "once i rose above the noise & confusion"

    :)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 18:07:14
    From: slider@anashram.com

    A drug being used to fight coronavirus seemingly cured 90% of patients in
    a groundbreaking trial – with work now under way to make it widely
    available worldwide.

    The COVID-19 patients were diagnosed as severe or critical at two separate hospitals in the eastern province of Anhui in China.

    They were given the drug tocilizumab along with routine therapy between February 5 and February 14.

    If analysis into the trial confirms it to be truly effective, it could
    have profound consequences for mankind in helping to tackle the worldwide pandemic.

    Tocilizumab, otherwise known as Actemra and produced by the Swiss pharmaceutical firm Roche, is typically used to combat arthritis.

    After just a few days, the patients’ fever returned to normal and all
    other symptoms improved.

    Fifteen of the 20 patients involved in the trial were able to have their
    oxygen intake lowered, and 19 were discharged on average 13.5 days after
    the treatment.

    The study concludes: “Tocilizumab is an effective treatment in severe patients of COVID-19, which provided a new therapeutic strategy for this
    fatal infectious disease.”

    Tocilizumab helps lower high Interleukin 6 (IL-6) protein levels which
    drive some inflammatory diseases.

    Genetech, a biotechnology company based in the US, is now launching a
    trial to assess whether tocilizumab can be used to treat adults in America
    – the country with the 3rd highest deaths – with severe COVID-19.

    ### - you'd imagine they'd move heaven & earth to test these things in a
    hurry wouldn't ya? especially after mr-t mentioning it a few times to the
    whole planet...

    but not even a dickie-bird to be heard about them here though + am sure
    they'd be no end of volunteers ready to try them seeing as there isn't
    ANYTHING else on offer except toughing it out??

    i mean, it's not like these very well known + tested-safe to use
    substances have many known side effects either unless one just so happens
    to be massively allergic to them in some way? (or ya consume the version intended for fish lol)

    new cases could therefore be asked if they'd be willing to trial them for example, many of which prolly would, and the results compared in an
    on-going process, the stats of which would then speak for themselves
    compared to the group that doesn't wanna try them in terms of how it then develops or not in either group!

    that they'd HAVE some of those stats by now if they'd started trialling
    them straight away?

    not to mention that they've 'known' about these things since china started using them weeks ago??

    wtf! we're too slow aren't we!

    (we're slow learners heh, slightly retarded actually...)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)