• Re: curfew and maybe even martial law now...

    From slider@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, March 22, 2020 19:04:54
    From: slider@anashram.com

    oh fuck yeah, everyone just loves being told
    what to do. do this, do that, jump through
    this hoop, now jump through that one, stand
    on your head, send your taxes in before you
    die fucker.

    ### - and then, after doin' all that, don't forget to drop yer pants and
    bend over haha :)))



    sure pal, i got your taxes right
    here pally. hey but i'm happy to say i didn't
    pay any tax and no tax was due this year. Not
    so lucky with the property tax though, we had
    to pay $8000 to the County for property assessment.
    Yeah i gave at the office alright. now the demmys
    and trumpy are saying they are going to mail us
    some money. i added up all the dream money and
    IF it pans out right (which it won't) we should see
    about $7200 between the two of us here. Fuck i'm only
    down 800 dollars now. lol! got to know when to
    walk away from the table, right?

    ### - there's never been anything on this scale before?

    everyone defo got off the mark a bit slow this time though...

    would have been far cheaper to jump on this thing immediately and just
    lock down completely for a month? even to paying everyone to stay indoors!

    as it stands it's likely now to drag-on for even months barring some
    medical breakthrough...

    it's actually quite interesting in that sense no?

    a complete break from routine... for the majority!

    that's a bit different innit :)

    plus will humanity perhaps wake up some from all this?

    maybe! :)

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, March 22, 2020 11:42:17
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    oh fuck yeah, everyone just loves being told
    what to do. do this, do that, jump through
    this hoop, now jump through that one, stand
    on your head, send your taxes in before you
    die fucker. sure pal, i got your taxes right
    here pally. hey but i'm happy to say i didn't
    pay any tax and no tax was due this year. Not
    so lucky with the property tax though, we had
    to pay $8000 to the County for property assessment.
    Yeah i gave at the office alright. now the demmys
    and trumpy are saying they are going to mail us
    some money. i added up all the dream money and
    IF it pans out right (which it won't) we should see
    about $7200 between the two of us here. Fuck i'm only
    down 800 dollars now. lol! got to know when to
    walk away from the table, right?

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, March 22, 2020 18:20:43
    From: slider@anashram.com

    ### - the boris, in his briefing today, has hinted at 'further measures'
    to enforce everyone staying home, saying that he doesn't want to do it but
    that if peeps don't pay attention to the 'suggestions' given re social-distancing it may then become necessary to follow in the footsteps
    of other countries (fairly blunt statement for the uk really)

    france, for example, now has 100,000 police on the streets along with
    troops enforcing it, fines in some places reaching 1000 euros if caught
    out on the street without having a good reason (food, meds & visits to doctors/hospitals applies only), ditto spain and italy all applying
    similar draconian measures...

    the main focus of his briefing today being aimed at the approx. 1.4
    million in the uk particularly at risk due to having severe underlying conditions + also anyone over age 75, who are now being 'told' not to
    leave their homes *at-all* and to receive no visitors for a period of at
    least 12 weeks!

    the point/implication being, that this same 'order' (rather than advice previously) for that group will likely then also be extended to everyone
    else as well eventually as they tighten the screw! (very likely actually)
    and as a further step in that direction today he announced the closing of
    all public parks and places where people have been openly flocking to apparently! (very strange reaction that?)

    and so that's what's likely coming for us over here during the next couple
    of weeks or less depending on the increasing death toll, which
    incidentally is currently still expanding fairly closely along exponential lines (it's only just very slightly less than exponentially, with london
    cited as being the current epicenter of the uk epidemic with now twice as
    many cases as everywhere else...)

    fuck that... lol am staying indoors! :)

    hunkering down here boss! haha :)))

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, March 22, 2020 19:40:22
    From: slider@atashram.com

    ### - there's some good things coming out of all this!

    the homeless, for example, of which there's 1000's living on the streets
    just in london alone?

    i.e., they can't have them just wandering around the streets when everyone
    else is being told to stay off them, the result (starting anyway) is that
    many of them are going to be housed in unused hotels free of charge hah;
    one day yer living on the street and the next in a 2 star hotel for 6
    months?? and with free food as well! cool :)

    after which, they can't really then just turf 'em all out back onto the
    streets again can they? and will thus be obliged to officially house them
    + actually look after them in some fashion never done before!

    a situation they've basically been ignoring until now, street people
    having no rights whatsoever!

    a dreadful situation which is now set to change :)

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, March 22, 2020 13:13:44
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    i saw something that Ken Burns said
    (he's the guy that does great documentarys)
    he said that is NOT history repeating itself.
    Heavy huh? Well there's a first time for
    everything ain't there? Everybody must
    get lynched at least once in their life eh ?

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, March 22, 2020 21:21:39
    From: slider@anashram.com

    i saw something that Ken Burns said
    (he's the guy that does great documentarys)
    he said that is NOT history repeating itself.
    Heavy huh? Well there's a first time for
    everything ain't there? Everybody must
    get lynched at least once in their life eh ?

    ### - hmm i dunno, as a bit of a history buff there doesn't appear to be
    much that's very new?

    that even going to the moon is/was just a greater version of previous explorations albeit now to another planet?

    ditto world concerts, in that it's all happened before albeit on a much
    smaller scale...

    the back death swept the world too albeit in slow-mo compared to today?

    ww1 & 2 were huge concerts on a global scale albeit spread-out over 5
    years at a time...

    whereas all this has gone totally global in only a few weeks!?

    the whole world (almost) currently acting in increasing unison & union!

    all those previous events changed the world at the time quite a lot and
    things were very different afterwards, this time likely being no
    exception... it's just the 'speed' at which it's occurring is
    unprecedented? the world is uniting in-concert like never before and at a
    rate never experienced before either!

    it's like the whole is sitting down to say meditate all at the same time
    for example??

    so ok, this time (and all the other times too) we were 'forced' into doing
    it, but this time it's all coming together sooo rapidly that everyone's actually aware of it, the changes (to society) being that more obvious
    and/or apparent (or soon will be i mean...) plus, we can learn from this
    to do things we couldn't accomplish before without that unison/union?

    that from a study of humanity-pov that makes it interesting :)

    that in that sense all this is new even though it's only a speeded-up
    version of known things...

    so then things are likely gonna change quite noticeably in many ways after this!

    and often change is/can-be good if/when directed wisely ;)

    (heh gots the Who singin' in my ear now: "the change it had to come"?)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrHUD2XmLN4

    well ya never know anyway :)

    that what's happening is indeed horrible, but 'good' things could come
    outta all this!

    like a more united world maybe ;)

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Monday, March 23, 2020 07:33:49
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    might be scrouging your next meal?
    how does it feel, to be on your own?

    no secrets to conceal eh?

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Monday, March 23, 2020 15:08:40
    From: slider@atashram.com

    might be scrouging your next meal?
    how does it feel, to be on your own?

    ### - no worries, been doin that all my life, am used to it lol :)))



    no secrets to conceal eh?

    ### - have never deliberately concealed anything, people understanding it, however, has always been summat else entirely heh ;)

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    "Please understand! But then I forget: that's half the problem; you
    *can't* understand!"

    --willian burroughs ;)

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Monday, March 23, 2020 08:40:31
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    so they closed MacDonalds in the UK.
    what did they serve besides 'burgers
    there? French fries?

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Monday, March 23, 2020 15:04:07
    From: slider@atashram.com

    The Government is tonight heading towards new measures to clamp down on coronavirus, with a closure of non-essential shops looking likely.

    Other measures being discussed in Whitehall include curbing travel on
    public transport and enforcing the rules on visiting parks and markets.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/government-clampdown-coronavirus-nonessential-shops-closure-a4395101.html

    Cobra, the emergency committee, was meeting ahead of the Prime Minister’s nightly press conference , often a sign that fresh action is imminent.

    The Prime Minister’s spokesman said officials were studying a range of
    data showing footfalls on High Streets, public transport and parks and if social interaction was not reducing fast enough, they would take “whatever measures are necessary”.

    The Standard revealed last week that stores selling leisure goods and
    other non-food and non-medical items could be asked to shut.

    Both No 10 and City Hall now say that London’s public transport network should be used only by critical workers, especially the NHS and food
    sectors. However, workers in sectors like construction pleaded for clearer guidance about whether they should continue to work or not.

    Another new action could be a move to “enforcement” of by police or
    council officials, possibly backed by fines, of rules like the need to
    keep 2 metres apart.

    Mayor of London Sadiq Khan, who has been urging for official “advice” to
    be hardened and made into “rules”, was involved in the discussions with Boris Johnson.

    Downing Street emphasised that it will take “whatever measures are necessary” after a weekend in which people flouted the rules by going out
    to socialise in spring sunshine.

    The Prime Minster’s spokesman said officials were studying a “wide range
    of data” and said: “If that information shows they have not stopped, then we will need to take further measures.

    The spokesman confirmed that non-food shops may be asked to close, if the scientific advice is to do so. But it was “for individual companies” to decide now if they should follow store chains like John Lewis who have
    closed their doors already.

    A major advertising campaign to discourage social interaction and give
    more clarity to people about their obligations is being prepared, the
    spokesman said.

    The official spokesman appeared to acknowledge that cases will continue to rise, saying it would “take some days for the measures we announced to
    have some impact”.

    ### - they've actually been very crafty about implementing all this here really; that rather than just shutting down everything one time (like they prolly needed to) they've instead been doing it in inexorable increments,
    each day tightening the screw just a little more while announcing what
    will also have to be done in the coming days thus giving people time to
    adjust to the measures a step at a time...

    the 'extent' to which they're going (which is totally unprecedented)
    revealing just how serious this thing must actually be + really is??

    and because ya know for sure they defo wouldn't be doing 'any' of this
    (which is costing the country, and the wealthy, a fortune!) unless they absolutely needed to, the 'speed' at which they're doing it revealing just
    how necessary all this actually is and apparently needs to be! damn!

    hmm...just wondering now how things will be in 6 months time? will it be
    all over by then do ya think, or still be like it is? i mean, what if this
    is how things are gonna be from now on with no going back??

    what IF all 'that' that we knew before was society as it 'used' to be!

    probably not though heh, am not sure the world is ready for such a
    page-turning quite yet...

    might be a huge world-party though when it's all over heh + say legalise
    weed everywhere or summat so we can all get fuckin' high :)

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Monday, March 23, 2020 17:12:23
    From: slider@atashram.com

    dude your region needs some In & Out Hamburger joints.
    great burgers and fries, good prices too !

    ### - someone could make a very fine business here serving up some decent burgers for a change, we don't have anything even remotely like it?? mac-puke-alls (think crusty-burgers? hah) was literally all we basically
    had + only some even worse private burger-bars selling nada but very risky ecoli-burgers that ya have to be blind-drunk on a saturday nite to even
    look at lol :)))

    there's currently no decent take-out places here at all! nada!

    never was :)

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Monday, March 23, 2020 16:15:46
    From: slider@anashram.com

    so they closed MacDonalds in the UK.
    what did they serve besides 'burgers
    there? French fries?

    ### - shite beef (probably recycled lol) patties and fake fuckin' fries everytime only, best deal of the lot was the apple pie lol - otherwise
    total rubbish that only kids will eat because of the clown & free toys
    they bribe them with? last time ate there swore would never eat that crap again, not to mention that it's always stone cold... and not even cheap!

    am personally glad they've closed all 1000 uk branches, they were
    blatantly only ripping-off our children's parents anyway, so fingers
    crossed they never come back...

    see? good things are comin' outta all this: we just gots rid of mac-puking-rippoff-donalds lol

    (you can prolly tell i don't like macdonals huh lol) ;)

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Monday, March 23, 2020 10:00:34
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    dude your region needs some In & Out Hamburger joints.
    great burgers and fries, good prices too !

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Monday, March 23, 2020 21:23:28
    From: slider@atashram.com

    ### - the boris gave his daily briefing just now and it was pretty strong!

    strict orders from the top:


    The Prime Minister said people will now only be allowed to leave their
    home for very limited purposes and that police will have the power to help
    to enforce the latest restrictions.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/boris-johnson-coronavirus-announcement-lockdown-a4395426.html

    Announcing new measures in an address to the nation on Monday night, Mr
    Johnson said:

    People must stay at home except for shopping for basic necessities,
    for exercise but only once a day, any medical need and travel to work but
    only if essential.
    Shops selling non-essential goods will also be closed and gatherings
    in public of more than two people who do not live together are being prohibited.
    Other premises including libraries, playgrounds, outdoor gyms, and
    places of worship must also shut.
    Funerals can still go ahead but weddings have been banned, as have baptisms and other ceremonies.
    Parks will remain open for exercise but gatherings will be dispersed,
    with police being handed the power to step in and enforce the new measures.

    In his televised statement from Downing Street, Mr Johnson said police
    will have the powers to enforce the new measures, through fines and
    dispersing gatherings.

    He said people had been asked to stay at home during this pandemic: "And
    though huge numbers are complying - and I thank you all - the time has now
    come for us all to do more.

    "From this evening I must give the British people a very simple
    instruction - you must stay at home. Because the critical thing we must do
    is stop the disease spreading between households.

    "That is why people will only be allowed to leave their home for the
    following very limited purposes: shopping for basic necessities, as infrequently as possible; one form of exercise a day - for example a run,
    walk, or cycle - alone or with members of your household; any medical
    need, to provide care or to help a vulnerable person; and travelling to
    and from work, but only where this is absolutely necessary and cannot be
    done from home.”

    Mr Johnson added: "To ensure compliance with the Government's instruction
    to stay at home, we will immediately: close all shops selling
    non-essential goods, including clothing and electronic stores and other premises including libraries, playgrounds and outdoor gyms, and places of worship; we will stop all gatherings of more than two people in public - excluding people you live with; and we'll stop social events, including weddings, baptisms and other ceremonies, but excluding funerals.

    "Parks will remain open for exercise but gatherings will be dispersed."

    It comes after a meeting of Cobra, the emergency committee, on Monday
    evening.

    ### - "people will only be allowed to leave home for specific purposes"

    curfew!

    so are we in the middle of a bio-war or summat??

    may even be!

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Monday, March 23, 2020 15:17:02
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    Juany Mateuso speaking to the Brits;


    "tonight (in dreaming) you limey pickerheads must look for
    your house and stay inside". don't try any fancy far out
    new agey maneuvers, keep it simple dreamers. ha ha

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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, March 26, 2020 18:48:45
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 18:20:43 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    ### - the boris, in his briefing today, has hinted at 'further measures'
    to enforce everyone staying home, saying that he doesn't want to do it but >that if peeps don't pay attention to the 'suggestions' given re >social-distancing it may then become necessary to follow in the footsteps
    of other countries (fairly blunt statement for the uk really)

    france, for example, now has 100,000 police on the streets along with
    troops enforcing it, fines in some places reaching 1000 euros if caught
    out on the street without having a good reason (food, meds & visits to >doctors/hospitals applies only), ditto spain and italy all applying
    similar draconian measures...

    the main focus of his briefing today being aimed at the approx. 1.4
    million in the uk particularly at risk due to having severe underlying >conditions + also anyone over age 75, who are now being 'told' not to
    leave their homes *at-all* and to receive no visitors for a period of at >least 12 weeks!

    the point/implication being, that this same 'order' (rather than advice >previously) for that group will likely then also be extended to everyone
    else as well eventually as they tighten the screw! (very likely actually)
    and as a further step in that direction today he announced the closing of
    all public parks and places where people have been openly flocking to >apparently! (very strange reaction that?)

    and so that's what's likely coming for us over here during the next couple
    of weeks or less depending on the increasing death toll, which
    incidentally is currently still expanding fairly closely along exponential >lines (it's only just very slightly less than exponentially, with london >cited as being the current epicenter of the uk epidemic with now twice as >many cases as everywhere else...)

    fuck that... lol am staying indoors! :)

    hunkering down here boss! haha :)))

    Boris like other leaders is fucking shit scared. This is big time. It
    hasn't even started yet and there are already a large fraction of our
    young people here in Australia out of work for the forseeable future.

    It isn't extinction unless this thing mutates in the wrong way. It
    isn't even remotely related to the flu or the cold.



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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, March 26, 2020 16:25:40
    From: slider@atashram.com

    so are we in the middle of a bio-war or summat??

    may even be!


    Did I hear the 800 pound panda bear in the corner say bio-war.

    The subject that no one feels safe even discussing.

    Hmmmmm...

    ### - Wuhan, the city where this one originated, is also the home of
    china's flagship biological research center (lol what a coincidence!) so
    no surprise then 'stories' are circulating about the possible connection...

    it's certainly an unusual virus in the sense that it spreads so very
    rapidly & furiously (a kind of super-cold/flu) before revealing itself via symptoms, that it risks too quickly burning itself out by dint of
    infecting nearly everyone one-time the first time around, thus not typical and/or one that is perhaps suggestive of manipulation...

    as for bio-war; the chinese had really horrible things done to them by
    japan during ww2, dozens of different dreadful diseases literally systematically dropped on china killing untold numbers in the most
    horrible of various ways, that they're not likely to have forgotten that incident hence their own strides in biological research! they wont get
    caught out again!

    perforce things have moved on some since those times, but if you were
    china today facing a western world that is actively seeking to
    deliberately impede/reduce your growth on the world stage, a growth factor
    that threatens to rapidly outpace theirs to the point of maybe even
    bringing it all to a head because they're only too well aware of the
    threat and are actively doing something about it; what better then but to
    maybe financially hobble your opponent thus and set him back years even if
    you have to infect your own population into the bargain to do so, all the
    while knowing that you'll then be the first to recover from it and carry
    on while the rest of the world is busy still picking up the pieces for
    months to come?

    i mean, although i seriously doubt ALL of the above (it's just a cheap
    B-movie plot at best heh) it would literally be our own fucking fault if
    it did happen by dint of not giving them any alternative other than an
    open war with the west? that if we're gonna resort to underhand measures
    to damage them then why shouldn't they do so too?

    really, we need to obviate any such risks of backing people into corners
    by perhaps bringing them all on-board in some more mutually beneficial + acceptable manner instead of turning it all into a deadly competition
    which only ONE side or the other can ever win??

    that we're ALL in this together... IS totally correct!

    and we've only ALL gots the ONE single planet between us?

    imho: 'competition' is too old school by now, it got us all to where we currently are but now we need summat more encompassing and inclusive if we
    want to move-on and go/pass beyond where all that previous competition
    brought us too...

    i mean, if we're looking for suggestions, then how's about the very same
    one nature is perhaps hinting at right at the moment? could it say it any louder??

    i.e., everyone worldwide chipping-in and, as unselfishly as possible,
    sharing the problem!

    looking after our more vulnerable/ill and ageing populaces, making sure
    they get looked after and all they need to live etc... in times of crisis
    we seem to get that all more correct so why not just continue with that philosophy afterwards too? FIND some way to do it while everything is
    still up in the air!

    here's an idea: let's NOT go back to that fucked up world but instead go forward into a much better + altogether safer one, one based more on how
    we're all trying/having to be at the moment for 'other' reasons ;)

    (sermon done lol)

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, March 26, 2020 08:03:31
    From: intraphase@gmail.com


    so are we in the middle of a bio-war or summat??

    may even be!


    Did I hear the 800 pound panda bear in the corner say bio-war.

    The subject that no one feels safe even discussing.

    Hmmmmm...

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, March 26, 2020 17:27:41
    From: slider@atashram.com

    So if they did it on purpose you would forgive them due to mitigating circumstances? I can understand the line of thought when assessing the historical and international implications.

    ### - i wouldn't forgive them but might understand how they ended up in
    such a situation?

    and because we're doin' exactly the same thing to russia & islam too:
    backing 'em into a corner with no way out JUST because WE don't like/trust THEIR way of seeing the world coz it's not the same as ours?

    i mean, what makes 'us' so fucking right that THEY deserve to be rubbed
    out and not us??

    oh i see: we want 'everything' to be 'our' way just like 'they' want
    everything to be 'their' way??

    so ok then, fuck it; cleverly back 'em into a corner, and when they then
    act out of desperation (as we all know they or anyone eventually will)
    we'll be even 'more' justified then in blasting 'em to hell for it innit!
    yaay!

    good plan!

    only it isn't is it? that in-reality we're just as-bad as them, if not
    worse, for creating such dire circumstances in the first place that could
    well even come back to bite us?? that in effect we're actually goading
    them into doing something just in order to survive!

    we gots to stop all this ya know?

    or it's not gonna end well for any of us!

    in which case look to mandela, who clearly demonstrated that there ARE
    other ways!

    provided we can be bothered to look for some that is...

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Thursday, March 26, 2020 10:00:03
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 12:26:23 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    so are we in the middle of a bio-war or summat??

    may even be!


    Did I hear the 800 pound panda bear in the corner say bio-war.

    The subject that no one feels safe even discussing.

    Hmmmmm...

    ### - Wuhan, the city where this one originated, is also the home of china's flagship biological research center (lol what a coincidence!) so
    no surprise then 'stories' are circulating about the possible connection...

    it's certainly an unusual virus in the sense that it spreads so very rapidly & furiously (a kind of super-cold/flu) before revealing itself via symptoms, that it risks too quickly burning itself out by dint of
    infecting nearly everyone one-time the first time around, thus not typical and/or one that is perhaps suggestive of manipulation...

    as for bio-war; the chinese had really horrible things done to them by japan during ww2, dozens of different dreadful diseases literally systematically dropped on china killing untold numbers in the most
    horrible of various ways, that they're not likely to have forgotten that incident hence their own strides in biological research! they wont get caught out again!

    perforce things have moved on some since those times, but if you were
    china today facing a western world that is actively seeking to
    deliberately impede/reduce your growth on the world stage, a growth factor that threatens to rapidly outpace theirs to the point of maybe even bringing it all to a head because they're only too well aware of the
    threat and are actively doing something about it; what better then but to maybe financially hobble your opponent thus and set him back years even if you have to infect your own population into the bargain to do so, all the while knowing that you'll then be the first to recover from it and carry
    on while the rest of the world is busy still picking up the pieces for months to come?

    i mean, although i seriously doubt ALL of the above (it's just a cheap B-movie plot at best heh) it would literally be our own fucking fault if
    it did happen by dint of not giving them any alternative other than an
    open war with the west? that if we're gonna resort to underhand measures
    to damage them then why shouldn't they do so too?

    really, we need to obviate any such risks of backing people into corners
    by perhaps bringing them all on-board in some more mutually beneficial + acceptable manner instead of turning it all into a deadly competition
    which only ONE side or the other can ever win??

    that we're ALL in this together... IS totally correct!

    and we've only ALL gots the ONE single planet between us?

    imho: 'competition' is too old school by now, it got us all to where we currently are but now we need summat more encompassing and inclusive if we want to move-on and go/pass beyond where all that previous competition brought us too...

    i mean, if we're looking for suggestions, then how's about the very same one nature is perhaps hinting at right at the moment? could it say it any louder??

    i.e., everyone worldwide chipping-in and, as unselfishly as possible, sharing the problem!

    looking after our more vulnerable/ill and ageing populaces, making sure they get looked after and all they need to live etc... in times of crisis we seem to get that all more correct so why not just continue with that philosophy afterwards too? FIND some way to do it while everything is
    still up in the air!

    here's an idea: let's NOT go back to that fucked up world but instead go forward into a much better + altogether safer one, one based more on how we're all trying/having to be at the moment for 'other' reasons ;)

    (sermon done lol)

    So if they did it on purpose you would forgive them due to mitigating circumstances? I can understand the line of thought when assessing the historical and international implications.

    These days it only takes one rogue individual to end the species forever.
    What if a rogue chinese citizen did this deliberately as a bio terror event?

    The, "I Am Vishnu," Destroyer of Worlds, Oppenheimer Scenario.
    This seems most likely, and what China, USA and Russia have concluded.

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Robert_Oppenheimer#/media/File:Trinity_Test_Fireball_16ms.jpg

    Evolution has made its decision.
    E Pluribus Unum, "out of many, one."

    Why name the test "Trinity"
    Why name the first bomb "Big Boy?"
    Why name the second bomb "Little Boy?"

    This tune explains: The Player - Mr. Eight

    Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc.
    https://youtu.be/HyHNuVaZJ-k



    Sha, sha-ba-da, sha-ba-da, Feel Good
    (Change) Sha, sha-(Change) ba-da (Change), sha-ba-da (Change)
    (Change) Sha, sha-(Change) ba-da (Change), sha-ba-da (Change)

    [Verse 1: 2-D]
    City's breaking down on a camel's back
    They'll just have to go, 'cause they don't know wack
    So all you fill the streets, it's appealing to see
    You won't get undercounted 'cause you're damned and free
    You got a new horizon, it's ephemeral style
    A melancholy town where we never smile
    And all I wanna hear is the message beep
    My dreams, they come a kissin' 'cause I don't get sleep, no
    *Beep*

    [Chorus: 2-D]
    Windmill, windmill for the land
    Turn forever hand in hand
    Take it all there on your stride
    It is aching, falling down
    Love forever, love is free
    Let’s turn forever, you and me
    Windmill, windmill for the land
    Is everybody in?

    [Verse 2: Trugoy the Dove]
    Laughin' gas these hazmats, fast cats
    Linin' 'em up like ass cracks
    Lay these ponies at the track
    It's my chocolate attack
    Shit, I'm steppin' in hotter this year (Yeah)
    Care Bear reppin' it harder this year (Yeah)
    Watch me as I gravitate, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
    Yo, we gon' ghost town this Motown
    With yo' sound, you in the blink
    Gon' bite the dust, can't fight with us
    With yo sound, you kill the Inc.
    So don't stop, get it, get it (Get it)
    Until you jet ahead
    And watch the way I navigate, hahahahaha
    (Ha! Haha! Haha! Haha! Ha!)

    [Refrain: 2-D]
    Sha, sha-ba-da, sha-ba-da, Feel Good
    Sha, sha-ba-da, sha-ba-da, Feel Good
    Sha, sha-ba-da, sha-ba-da, Feel Good
    Sha, sha-ba-da, sha-ba-da, Feel Good

    [Chorus: 2-D]
    Windmill, windmill for the land
    Turn forever hand in hand
    Take it all in on your stride
    It is sinking, falling down
    Love forever, love is free
    Let's turn forever, you and me
    Windmill, windmill for the land
    Is everybody in?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, March 26, 2020 19:27:10
    From: slider@atashram.com

    These days it only takes one rogue individual to end the species forever. What if a rogue chinese citizen did this deliberately as a bio terror
    event?

    ### - smile, well that would be the other B-movie i wrote the other day
    then innit haha ;)

    i.e., some mad asshole (chinese or whatever) shoots up the whole planet
    instead of just shootin' up las vegas + subplots?

    like perhaps if we all maybe had far more interesting things to do?? :)))

    as it is, it appears to drive some peeps completely round the bend, they
    can't handle that level of unnatural programming! working in an office all
    day 30 stories up in the air they reach that final straw? (are 'pushed' to reach it actually!)

    that if one isn't 100% (playin' with a full deck) to start with, then life
    on this planet can become impossible to deal with and remain sane enough
    to function...

    but we do so love to blame them for it all innit eh?

    it was their fault they couldn't handle the programming?

    no consideration given, of course, that, in another world, they might have actually been completely different people altogether?

    nah fuck all that, fit IN or fuck off! that's the society WE live in eh?

    "I have likened the world to being a prison; a very cruel one! One in
    which many have desires, few of which are ever realised..." --Cervantes'
    Don Quixote ;)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Thursday, March 26, 2020 13:52:42
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 1:28:24 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    So if they did it on purpose you would forgive them due to mitigating circumstances? I can understand the line of thought when assessing the historical and international implications.

    ### - i wouldn't forgive them but might understand how they ended up in
    such a situation?

    and because we're doin' exactly the same thing to russia & islam too:
    backing 'em into a corner with no way out JUST because WE don't like/trust THEIR way of seeing the world coz it's not the same as ours?



    The weird bit is in the USA the liberals hate Russia
    and the conservatives hate communist China, either way
    both sides suffer from a "distortion" of perception.
    Because both sides have shadow projected their evil doppelganger
    onto a foreign people and nation, both sides liberals and
    conservatives excuse the bad behavior of Russia and China, respectively.
    You could see it in the liberals baseless accusations against Trump
    and Russia in a secret pact and now the conservatives accusing liberals
    of wanting and encouraging pandemic to achieve social change.

    Both sides are a few sandwiches short of a picnic.

    i mean, what makes 'us' so fucking right that THEY deserve to be rubbed
    out and not us??

    oh i see: we want 'everything' to be 'our' way just like 'they' want everything to be 'their' way??

    so ok then, fuck it; cleverly back 'em into a corner, and when they then
    act out of desperation (as we all know they or anyone eventually will)
    we'll be even 'more' justified then in blasting 'em to hell for it innit! yaay!

    good plan!

    only it isn't is it? that in-reality we're just as-bad as them, if not
    worse, for creating such dire circumstances in the first place that could well even come back to bite us?? that in effect we're actually goading
    them into doing something just in order to survive!

    we gots to stop all this ya know?

    or it's not gonna end well for any of us!

    in which case look to mandela, who clearly demonstrated that there ARE
    other ways!

    provided we can be bothered to look for some that is...

    I never dispute Mandela as an avatar of Justice balancing Mercy.
    His journey through the pits of hell elevating his consciousness
    from temporal fixations to eternal considerations of the life force itself.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)