• Herd immunity 'not a possibility' with Delta variant, says head of Oxfo

    From slider@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, August 11, 2021 12:45:50
    From: slider@anashram.com

    Herd immunity is "not a possibility" because the Delta variant is still spreading fast and infecting fully vaccinated people, the head of the
    Oxford Vaccine Group has said.

    Professor Sir Andrew Pollard told MPs in the all-party parliamentary group
    on coronavirus that although 95% vaccination would stop transmission of measles, the same was not true for COVID.

    He warned that this means "anyone still unvaccinated at some point will
    meet the virus".

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-herd-immunity-not-a-possibility-with-delta-variant-says-head-of-oxford-vaccine-group-12378242

    Herd immunity is when enough people become resistant to a disease -
    through vaccination or previous exposure - that it can no longer
    significantly spread among the rest of the population.

    Sir Andrew said the vaccine might slow the spread of coronavirus, but as
    the Delta variant - first identified in India - is highly transmissible,
    jabs will not contain it altogether.

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    "We know very clearly with coronavirus that this current variant, the
    Delta variant, will still infect people who have been vaccinated and that
    does mean that anyone who's still unvaccinated, at some point, will meet
    the virus," he told MPs.

    "I think we are in a situation here with this current variant where herd immunity is not a possibility because it still infects vaccinated
    individuals."

    Sir Andrew said the next thing might be "a variant which is even better at transmitting in vaccinated populations", adding: "So, that's even more of
    a reason not to be making a vaccine programme around herd immunity."

    However, the Oxford Vaccine Group director also said there was likely to
    be "increasing confidence" about the UK's coronavirus situation.

    He told the APPG: "I think this next six months is a really important consolidation phase and in that shift from the epidemic to the endemic,
    which is the living with COVID.

    "That doesn't mean that we live with it and put up with it - we still have
    to manage those cases of patients who become unwell with it."

    Sir Andrew's comments come as the UK reported its highest daily COVID
    deaths since March.

    There were 23,510 new cases and 146 more coronavirus-related deaths in the latest 24-hour period.

    The figures compare with 25,161 infections and 37 fatalities reported on Monday, while last Tuesday 21,691 cases and 138 deaths were announced.

    The number of deaths is the highest since 175 were reported on 12 March.

    Since the pandemic began,130,503 people have died in the UK within 28 days
    of testing positive.

    The government also announced on Tuesday that more than three quarters of adults in the UK have now received both doses of a vaccine.

    The Department of Health and Social Care said a total of 86,780,455 jabs
    had now been administered, with 89% of people having received a first dose
    and 75% two doses.

    Prime Minister Boris Johnson described it as "a huge national achievement
    which we should all be proud of", while Health Secretary Sajid Javid said
    the vaccine was "helping us to work our way out of this pandemic towards normal".

    ### - oh well, there goes the hope of some kinda herd-immunity being
    summat to aim for huh...

    covid having become sooo infectious everyone's defo gonna get it now at
    some point, come what may?

    booster-jabs come the fall being all that's left in the kitty to play
    with...

    so it looks like covid-19 is here to stay.

    could it all perhaps have been better managed? less people killed by it??

    damn right it could've! the way it HAS been handled virtually
    'guaranteeing' it's gonna be here now forever and reach everyone! damn!

    and that's just relatively mild covid-19!?

    wtf's gonna happen if/when summat even MORE deadly comes alone as it no
    doubt will??

    full locksdowns - being the ONLY thing that ACTUALLY worked to halt it -
    were totally misapplied!!!!

    that if, for example, the whole world had locked down for say only 4
    months solid when it all originally began, we'd have all been completely
    shot of this fucker by now???

    as it is, the 'politicisation' of covid-19 for outright selfish purposes,
    has likely cost 100's of 1000's of lives completely unnecessarily! so all
    those behind that deliberate 'mismanagement' should imho be hauled up and exposed and even jailed for being the fucking mad cunts they are.

    crazy world lol :)

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