On 10/01/16, Tony Langdon pondered and said...

OK, what are people using for automated message bots? I'm looking to create one for Mystic. Also looking to create one for Synchronet, since one of the echoes I want a bot to post in isn't on the Mystic system.

At the moment I use MUTIL and post a text message function. The source of the .txt file varies based on software I'm using to create it but in the end it's
a batch file that runs the MUTIL function and uses a specific .ini for each .txt file and message base I want to post to.

I use MIS to run a timed event to start the .bat files

Best, Paul

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Avon wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

At the moment I use MUTIL and post a text message function. The source
of the .txt file varies based on software I'm using to create it but in the end it's a batch file that runs the MUTIL function and uses a
specific .ini for each .txt file and message base I want to post to.

That will work for all but one of my bot posts (the other one has to be done from Synchronet). Now to find the docs for that function. :-)

I use MIS to run a timed event to start the .bat files

That would work... or cron. :D


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Re: Re: Bot posts
By: Vk3jed to Avon on Sat Oct 01 2016 11:56 am

That will work for all but one of my bot posts (the other one has to be done from Synchronet). Now to find the docs for that function. :-)

smbutil is what you need. Run it without options to see the list commands you can use with it.

i<file> I think is what you need in this case.

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On 10/01/16, Vk3jed pondered and said...

done from Synchronet). Now to find the docs for that function. :-)

http://wiki.mysticbbs.com/doku.php?id=mutil_post_text_files - if you're meaning the Mystic function? Here it is :)

I use MIS to run a timed event to start the .bat files

That would work... or cron. :D

Yep, depends on what ever suits the sysop.

Best, Paul

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Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-

smbutil is what you need. Run it without options to see the list
commands you can use with it.

i<file> I think is what you need in this case.

Cool, thanks. :)


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Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

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On 10/01/16, Vk3jed pondered and said...

done from Synchronet). Now to find the docs for that function. :-)

http://wiki.mysticbbs.com/doku.php?id=mutil_post_text_files - if
you're meaning the Mystic function? Here it is :)

Thanks. Yes, I was referring to Mystic. I need to use both, because some echoes are only on Mystic, some are on SBBS, some are on both. :)

I use MIS to run a timed event to start the .bat files

That would work... or cron. :D

Yep, depends on what ever suits the sysop.

Figured as much. :)


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OK, what are people using for automated message bots? I'm looking to create one for Mystic. Also looking to create one for Synchronet, since one of the echoes I want a bot to post in isn't on the Mystic system.


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On 10/01/16, Tony Langdon pondered and said...

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@MSGID: 21:1/143 003792f9

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Hi Tony,

This message (and one other) arrived twice. Both times the two messages that were sent also arrived with the same message ID. I expect folks like Al and Ricsi will have one of each of them in their dupe baskets.

You might want to check what's happening, and/or stay away from QWK until g00r00 gets back? Just a thought.

Best, Paul

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dream master wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

mutil has it in the .ini

Perfect. :)


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On 10/01/16, Tony Langdon said the following...

OK, what are people using for automated message bots? I'm looking to create one for Mystic. Also looking to create one for Synchronet, since one of the echoes I want a bot to post in isn't on the Mystic system.

mutil has it in the .ini

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On 10/01/16, Tony Langdon said the following...

OK, what are people using for automated message bots? I'm looking to create one for Mystic. Also looking to create one for Synchronet, since one of the echoes I want a bot to post in isn't on the Mystic system.
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Pretty sure we (Mystic BBS) all use mutil's [PostTextFiles] function to do that. Most have them sending out a burst which usually results in the same MSGID for all the posts (each on different networks). Many systems call these dupes, but as g00r00 had pointed out, only MSGID is the same. Everything else is generally different in the header, so it's hard to say it's a total dupe.
I use two mutil .ini files to send the two posts I do weekly a second apart
to have unique MGSIDs and don't use MultiMail as rep packets post quickly
like the [PostTextFiles] does and so gets the same MSGID for most if not all the messages. Time appears to be the problem, anything that causes messages
to be sent out at the exact same time like [PostTextFiles] or QWK upload
group causes MSGID dupes with Mystic A31. Mystic handles this well, but some older systems don't and send them all to dupes, so I avoid causing them.

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bcw142 wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Pretty sure we (Mystic BBS) all use mutil's [PostTextFiles] function to
do that. Most have them sending out a burst which usually results in
the same MSGID for all the posts (each on different networks). Many systems call these dupes, but as g00r00 had pointed out, only MSGID is
the same. Everything else is generally different in the header, so it's hard to say it's a total dupe. I use two mutil .ini files to send the
two posts I do weekly a second apart to have unique MGSIDs and don't
use MultiMail as rep packets post quickly like the [PostTextFiles] does and so gets the same MSGID for most if not all the messages. Time
appears to be the problem, anything that causes messages to be sent out
at the exact same time like [PostTextFiles] or QWK upload group causes MSGID dupes with Mystic A31. Mystic handles this well, but some older systems don't and send them all to dupes, so I avoid causing them.

No probs, thanks. Seems that function is the go. The goal for v 0.2 of my hatching script is to incorporate optional announcements. The dupe/timing issue shouldn't be a problem for me, because my script only hatches one file at a time ATM, and runs mutil each time it is run. I'd have to add a second instance of mutil to post the announcement, but since it's only one post each time the script is run, duplicate MSGIDs shouldn't happen.


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