• iCE Colors

    From Pequito@21:1/101 to All on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 15:24:13
    This is just a poll ore or less to see how many out there are in favor of the general ansi colors or the iCE colors or a mix.

    I have been designing new screens and iCE seems to offer more in the way of colors and contrast and wanted to know the thoughts of others.

    Cheers!
    Pequito

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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Pequito on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 17:58:47
    This is just a poll ore or less to see how many out there are in favor
    of the general ansi colors or the iCE colors or a mix.

    I have been designing new screens and iCE seems to offer more in the way of colors and contrast and wanted to know the thoughts of others.

    I definitely prefer ICE colors to the blinking text, because it allows for a larger palette for art. The blinking text is nice to have in a few places,
    but those places are very very few.

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  • From Pequito@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Monday, June 26, 2017 14:08:00
    On 06/21/17, g00r00 pondered and said...

    This is just a poll ore or less to see how many out there are in favo of the general ansi colors or the iCE colors or a mix.

    I have been designing new screens and iCE seems to offer more in the of colors and contrast and wanted to know the thoughts of others.

    I definitely prefer ICE colors to the blinking text, because it allows
    for a larger palette for art. The blinking text is nice to have in a
    few places, but those places are very very few.

    I dislike blinking to be honest but the options in Netrunner are blinking or iCE, if one does not have iCE enabled it would be blink everywhere. lol

    That and your terminal is the only one I know of that supports iCE which is
    sad seeing how long these colors have been available.

    I have decided to use iCE 100% across the board on the new development I am doing under mystic. I just like the colors. =)

    Cheers!
    Pequito

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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Pequito on Sunday, June 25, 2017 23:01:37
    I dislike blinking to be honest but the options in Netrunner are
    blinking or iCE, if one does not have iCE enabled it would be blink everywhere. lol

    It used to only be ICE and people kept asking for blinking. So I added it, and then they wanted it as the default. I personally don't like it either lol

    I have decided to use iCE 100% across the board on the new development I am doing under mystic. I just like the colors. =)

    I should build in a code that will "switch" NetRunner to ICE colors. Unless I've already done that and forgot. Similar to how you can force it to switch to Amiga font and back automatically.

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  • From Pequito@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 16:39:34
    On 06/25/17, g00r00 pondered and said...

    I dislike blinking to be honest but the options in Netrunner are blinking or iCE, if one does not have iCE enabled it would be blink everywhere. lol

    It used to only be ICE and people kept asking for blinking. So I added it, and then they wanted it as the default. I personally don't like it either lol

    Have so much done and so far to go still on re-designing the system I am working on but thinking will not even know its mystic once I am done.

    I have decided to use iCE 100% across the board on the new developmen am doing under mystic. I just like the colors. =)

    I should build in a code that will "switch" NetRunner to ICE colors. Unless I've already done that and forgot. Similar to how you can force
    it to switch to Amiga font and back automatically.

    Nope nothing auto I use Netrunner when connecting even to my system and has
    to be manually set. Would be a nice feature to add.

    Speaking of which I want to pick your brain about something, I had found the limits of an array @ 500 not working when I have more than 500 message
    bases. My work around for this was savign to a data file and reading it back.

    Any thoughts of how I might be able to do this better?

    Cheers!
    Pequito

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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Pequito on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 09:48:18


    Speaking of which I want to pick your brain about something, I had found the limits of an array @ 500 not working when I have more than 500 message bases. My work around for this was savign to a data file and reading it back.

    I don't quite understand what you're talking about here. Can you give some context?

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  • From Pequito@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 15:04:09
    On 06/27/17, g00r00 pondered and said...



    Speaking of which I want to pick your brain about something, I had fo the limits of an array @ 500 not working when I have more than 500 message bases. My work around for this was savign to a data file and reading it back.

    I don't quite understand what you're talking about here. Can you give some context?

    Sure here is a small example, not complete but hoping will give the right
    idea.

    Type
    recData = Record
    DataN : String[80]
    DataI : Integer
    DataC : LongInt
    End

    Var Entry : Array [1..500] of recData

    OK now lets say there where more than 500 records in this data when I read
    it, its only ever going to show me the 1st 500.

    I was seeking a way to avoid writing data to a file then reading it if it exceeded that size in array above, for now this is what I had done to work around the limits of the array size.

    I do not believe this would be something on your front as I know every
    language has a memory limitation aka pascal 65k I think.

    Hope I am not stumbling over myself with this explanation.

    Cheers!
    Pequtio

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  • From Gryphon@21:1/101 to Pequito on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 16:32:44
    On 06/21/17, Pequito pondered and said...

    This is just a poll ore or less to see how many out there are in favor
    of the general ansi colors or the iCE colors or a mix.

    I have been designing new screens and iCE seems to offer more in the way of colors and contrast and wanted to know the thoughts of others.

    Hey Pequito! Have you put your BBS back up?

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Gryphon on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 19:04:30
    On 06/28/17, Gryphon pondered and said...

    Hey Pequito! Have you put your BBS back up?

    My thoughts also... as there's a node listing marked as 'Down' I'd like to
    tidy up. :)

    Best, Paul

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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Pequito on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 10:05:33
    I was seeking a way to avoid writing data to a file then reading it if it exceeded that size in array above, for now this is what I had done to
    work around the limits of the array size.

    I do not believe this would be something on your front as I know every language has a memory limitation aka pascal 65k I think.

    The good news is there is no memory limitation in Pascal and there is not a 500 limit to array size. :)

    What you are seeing is the limit placed on the maximum size that a variable declaration can be in MPL. Its a limit that I created to prevent MPL programmers from declaring giant data structures and soaking up all of the system's memory. It prevents you from creating a variable that takes up more than 65KB of memory, but it does not restrict you to 65KB overall just on a per-variable basis.

    For example you can do:

    Test1 : Array[1..10000] of Byte;
    Test2 : Array[1..1000] of String[60];

    What it tries to prevent is this:

    Test3 : Array[1..100000] of String;

    ^^ That uses 25 megabytes of memory. When you have a Pi for example with only 500 megabytes and 300 are used by the OS, then you have 200 megabytes to run all of your BBS servers and any other software or processes. If you have 4 variables in an MPL that use 25 megabytes each, then your server has 100 megs free. Then when you have two users online your system literally runs out of memory because of that array in an MPL program.

    MPL tries to prevent things like that from happening because many Sysops may use random MPLs and they are none the wiser that they could be destroying
    their system.

    I was seeking a way to avoid writing data to a file then reading it if it exceeded that size in array above, for now this is what I had done to
    work around the limits of the array size.

    There are ways to cheat the system :) What are you trying to do exactly?

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  • From Pequito@21:1/101 to Gryphon on Thursday, June 29, 2017 15:12:59
    On 06/28/17, Gryphon pondered and said...

    On 06/21/17, Pequito pondered and said...

    This is just a poll ore or less to see how many out there are in favo of the general ansi colors or the iCE colors or a mix.

    I have been designing new screens and iCE seems to offer more in the of colors and contrast and wanted to know the thoughts of others.

    Hey Pequito! Have you put your BBS back up?


    Not yet, working on it and still have some personal stuff pending in rl so
    its been slow. Good to see ya Gryphon.

    I am in MRC idling a lot from work Sun-Weds. :)

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  • From Pequito@21:1/101 to g00r00 on Thursday, June 29, 2017 15:25:36
    On 06/28/17, g00r00 pondered and said...

    I was seeking a way to avoid writing data to a file then reading it i exceeded that size in array above, for now this is what I had done to work around the limits of the array size.

    I do not believe this would be something on your front as I know ever language has a memory limitation aka pascal 65k I think.

    The good news is there is no memory limitation in Pascal and there is
    not a 500 limit to array size. :)

    What you are seeing is the limit placed on the maximum size that a variable declaration can be in MPL. Its a limit that I created to
    prevent MPL programmers from declaring giant data structures and soaking up all of the system's memory. It prevents you from creating a variable that takes up more than 65KB of memory, but it does not restrict you to 65KB overall just on a per-variable basis.

    That's good to know and why its done that way. =)

    I was seeking a way to avoid writing data to a file then reading it i exceeded that size in array above, for now this is what I had done to work around the limits of the array size.

    There are ways to cheat the system :) What are you trying to do exactly?

    Well I had already done it but was seeking maybe a better route for it to be done, created mpl functions to utilize the index readers you put in place a little differently. Aka it will pop up and ask which network you want to
    read from instead of bringing them all up which is a hard scroll sometimes pending how many or how much echo basing your system does.

    So I been treating the networks like subscriptions able to add/remove which ones you want to see/read from etc from an mpl. More interactively allowing the caller to pick and choose what they want to see and read. =)


    So say I popped a windows like this.

    +------------------------+
    | networks |
    +------------------------+
    | +Local (mandatory) |
    | +Fsx |
    | AgoraNet |
    | +UseNET |
    +------------------------+
    | arrow/move, enter/view |
    | h/toggle visibility |
    +------------------------+

    This is lightbar driven so the caller can navigate and see what they want vs all networks etc by selecting their visibility.

    I hope me drawing it helps, cause I am more a visual person myself of the
    items I work on I sketch out before I start writing.

    Cheers!
    Pequito

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Pequito on Thursday, June 29, 2017 20:39:52
    On 06/29/17, Pequito pondered and said...

    Not yet, working on it and still have some personal stuff pending in rl
    so its been slow. Good to see ya Gryphon.

    Take care of yourself Pequito.. sending good vibes your way :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Pequito on Thursday, June 29, 2017 20:41:19
    On 06/29/17, Pequito pondered and said...

    Well I had already done it but was seeking maybe a better route for it
    to be done, created mpl functions to utilize the index readers you put
    in place a little differently. Aka it will pop up and ask which network you want to read from instead of bringing them all up which is a hard scroll sometimes pending how many or how much echo basing your system does.

    So I been treating the networks like subscriptions able to add/remove which ones you want to see/read from etc from an mpl. More
    interactively allowing the caller to pick and choose what they want to
    see and read. =)

    Nice idea, like tagging bases for inclusion in a new message scan but having the area index reader display only the tagged bases when loaded ?

    Best, Paul

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  • From Pequito@21:1/126 to Avon on Monday, July 03, 2017 02:28:28
    On 06/29/17, Avon said the following...

    On 06/29/17, Pequito pondered and said...

    Well I had already done it but was seeking maybe a better route for i to be done, created mpl functions to utilize the index readers you pu in place a little differently. Aka it will pop up and ask which netw you want to read from instead of bringing them all up which is a hard scroll sometimes pending how many or how much echo basing your system does.

    So I been treating the networks like subscriptions able to add/remove which ones you want to see/read from etc from an mpl. More interactively allowing the caller to pick and choose what they want t see and read. =)

    Nice idea, like tagging bases for inclusion in a new message scan but having the area index reader display only the tagged bases when loaded ?

    Just something I am working towards slowly. :)

    My Auto SIG!

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  • From Pequito@21:1/126 to Gryphon on Monday, July 03, 2017 04:51:26
    On 06/28/17, Gryphon said the following...

    On 06/21/17, Pequito pondered and said...

    This is just a poll ore or less to see how many out there are in favo of the general ansi colors or the iCE colors or a mix.

    I have been designing new screens and iCE seems to offer more in the of colors and contrast and wanted to know the thoughts of others.

    Hey Pequito! Have you put your BBS back up?

    Not yet but getting there Gryphon, I started to pull messages for FSX since
    it is the most active network out there. :)

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  • From Nugax@21:1/107 to All on Monday, July 03, 2017 07:35:31
    That is a cool idea. Then the board can attach to all networks and users control their subscriptions without seeing the extra.

    On 21:28 02/07 , Pequito wrote:
    On 06/29/17, Avon said the following...

    On 06/29/17, Pequito pondered and said...

    Well I had already done it but was seeking maybe a better route
    for i
    to be done, created mpl functions to utilize the index readers you
    pu
    in place a little differently. Aka it will pop up and ask which
    netw
    you want to read from instead of bringing them all up which is a
    hard
    scroll sometimes pending how many or how much echo basing your
    system
    does.

    So I been treating the networks like subscriptions able to
    add/remove
    which ones you want to see/read from etc from an mpl. More interactively allowing the caller to pick and choose what they
    want t
    see and read. =)

    Nice idea, like tagging bases for inclusion in a new message scan but having the area index reader display only the tagged bases when loaded ?

    Just something I am working towards slowly. :)

    My Auto SIG!

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