Hello All,

I'm using the RPi version of Mystic, and start services with "mis". I enabled the NNTP service in order to try and interact with the message base in that
way (as opposed to the classic offline packets, which works fine with a specific limitation). Now, in trying to get Thunderbird to interact with the NNTP server, I found that NNTP is not working as expected. Is there any other configuration that I need to put in place before the NNTP server will see the message bases?

Here is some debug output I have gathered in my noodling session this
morning:

A transcript of the actual telnet session:

---start---
mystic@mysticbbs:~/mystic $ telnet localhost 119
Trying ::1...
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
200 Mystic BBS NNTP server ready
authinfo user dotslash
381 Password required
authinfo pass ***
281 Authentication accepted
list newsgroups
231 New newsgroups since ws/gr/ne up:s: follow
.
list active
231 New newsgroups since ti/ve/ac :: follow
.
quit
205 Goodbye
---stop---

The associated log from server_nntp.log:

---start---
Feb 03 10:24:04 0 Connect: 127.0.0.1 (localhost)
Feb 03 10:24:04 1 S:200 Mystic BBS NNTP server ready
Feb 03 10:24:15 1 C: AUTHINFO user dotslash
Feb 03 10:24:15 1 S:381 Password required
Feb 03 10:24:21 1 C: AUTHINFO PASS ***
Feb 03 10:24:21 1 S:281 Authentication accepted
Feb 03 10:24:21 1 Logged in as dotslash
Feb 03 10:24:31 1 C:list newsgroups
Feb 03 10:24:31 1 S:231 New newsgroups since ws/gr/ne up:s: follow
Feb 03 10:24:31 1 S:.
Feb 03 10:24:38 1 C:list active
Feb 03 10:24:38 1 S:231 New newsgroups since ti/ve/ac :: follow
Feb 03 10:24:38 1 S:.
Feb 03 10:25:09 1 C:quit
Feb 03 10:25:09 1 S:205 Goodby
---end---

It is worth noting that the expected behaviour should have been a list of "groups" after the "list newsgroups" command, but the command exits directly with "." which denotes the end of output for that specific command. Same for the "list active" command. Am I missing something? Other than enabling the service I have not done any .ini configuring.

Regards,
Jan Henkins

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: UnderZaNet BBS (21:2/108)

On 02/03/2017 06:24 AM, dotslash wrote:

Hello All,

I'm using the RPi version of Mystic, and start services with "mis". I enabled the NNTP service in order to try and interact with the message base in that way (as opposed to the classic offline packets, which works fine with a specific limitation). Now, in trying to get Thunderbird to interact with the NNTP server, I found that NNTP is not working as expected. Is there any other configuration that I need to put in place before the NNTP server will see the message bases?

Here is some debug output I have gathered in my noodling session this morning:

A transcript of the actual telnet session:

---start---
mystic@mysticbbs:~/mystic $ telnet localhost 119
Trying ::1...
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
200 Mystic BBS NNTP server ready
authinfo user dotslash
381 Password required
authinfo pass ***
281 Authentication accepted
list newsgroups
231 New newsgroups since ws/gr/ne up:s: follow
So you have Newgroups setup in Message Base Editor? I use the default name

like 'Newsgroup FSX_GEN' and find that works best with Thunderbird.
Set them all up with names and then turn on the server (Servers 5 NNTP
Server Options, Use Server Yes. Then use a fake email like me@here which
it will accept and setup the news groups by subscribing to them.
Then it will ask about pulling down 500 headers and such. Should work
fine, that's how I sent this - Oh, use Followup not Reply.

--- Mystic BBS/NNTP v1.12 A31 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Mystic Pi BBS bcw142.zapto.org (21:1/145)

Hi Bcw142!

Below message is a reply to this message:
@MSGID: 21:2/108 00ad5743

Your reply has a MSGID kludge, but it has no REPLYTO kludge.
Why?

When you try to get the reply tree for the original message it shows no replies, but in reality it received replies ...

Very strange.

03 Feb 2017 15:38, from bcw142 -> All:

@TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A31
@MSGID: 21:1/145 4a437cd2
@TZUTC: -0500
On 02/03/2017 06:24 AM, dotslash wrote:

CU, Ricsi

--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: And this is what you do for fun? (21:1/104)

On 03/05/17, Richard Menedetter said the following...

Your reply has a MSGID kludge, but it has no REPLYTO kludge.
Why?

Very strange.

03 Feb 2017 15:38, from bcw142 -> All:

@TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A31
@MSGID: 21:1/145 4a437cd2
@TZUTC: -0500
On 02/03/2017 06:24 AM, dotslash wrote:

CU, Ricsi

You notice it says 'bcw142 -> All', that message was sent NNTP so gets send
to All (like Usenet which it follows) that causes the no reply kludge. One of the drawbacks of that is no thread tracking. 'Linking' between messages
doesn't work when sent this way, so I rarely do it anymore.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: Mystic Pi BBS bcw142.zapto.org (21:1/145)

Hi Bcw142!

05 Mar 2017 19:24, from bcw142 -> Richard Menedetter:

On 03/05/17, Richard Menedetter said the following...

Your reply has a MSGID kludge, but it has no REPLYTO kludge.
Why?

You notice it says 'bcw142 -> All', that message was sent NNTP so gets send to All (like Usenet which it follows) that causes the no reply kludge.

Actually I did not notice ;))

But there seems to be a way to do it.
See below message which was also written with JamNNTPd.
With correct REPLYTO and linking.

From : Björn Felten 2:203/2 06 Mar 2017 16:19
To : Paul Quinn 06 Mar 2017 16:21
Subj : FidoNews 34:10 [04/07]: Jamnntpd Servers List -21---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- Sweden @MSGID: 2:203/2 58bd7e0c
@REPLY: 3:640/1384 58bd135e
@PID: JamNNTPd/Win32 1

CU, Ricsi

--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: You cannot antagonize and influence at the same time. (21:1/104)

On 03/05/17, bcw142 said the following...

You notice it says 'bcw142 -> All', that message was sent NNTP so gets send to All (like Usenet which it follows) that causes the no reply kludge. One of the drawbacks of that is no thread tracking. 'Linking' between messages doesn't work when sent this way, so I rarely do it anymore.

I use NNTP mostly for messages to All or to check if there are new
messages on specific areas. JAMNNTPD seems more interesting to replying messages in an area, since it allows you to add the "TO:".

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (OSX)
* Origin: Chiron - Orbiting Saturn (21:1/146.1)