my netmail has always worked since I first set it up. I can send netmail and it is received. However, not, when my Mystic bbs receives netmail I see when mutil import.ini is ran that it shows netmail received. But I log in and
check I do not find any netmail message in Netmail. I only find what I sent out.

Any thoughts? Don't know what I could have changed.

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Mystic Prison Board BBS*Mesquite Tx (21:1/134)

On 12/08/16, Zazz pondered and said...

my netmail has always worked since I first set it up. I can send
netmail and it is received. However, not, when my Mystic bbs receives netmail I see when mutil import.ini is ran that it shows netmail
received. But I log in and check I do not find any netmail message in Netmail. I only find what I sent out.

Things to do would be

Run some test getting a few test netmails sent in to you.
Just look for the name of the person the netmail is being sent to, is it your sysop name or your alias or ?
Consider setting up a forwarding statement (I posted about this earlier) to send netmails addressed to sysop, your alias etc. to your real name.
Make sure you have some logs set to level 3 when you run the import, and feel free to post them here... we'll suss this out :)

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (21:1/101)

Things to do would be

Run some test getting a few test netmails sent in to you.
Just look for the name of the person the netmail is being sent to, is it your sysop name or your alias or ?
Consider setting up a forwarding statement (I posted about this earlier) to send netmails addressed to sysop, your alias etc. to your real name. Make sure you have some logs set to level 3 when you run the import, and feel free to post them here... we'll suss this out :)

I did have forwarding on, but will review it and put it back in. I will now set the log level to 3. Two of netmail sent were to you 21;100 and 21:10 and your reponses came back but I didn't see them, just when import ran I saw 2 netmail messages imported.

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Mystic Prison Board BBS*Mesquite Tx (21:1/134)

Here is a snippet of my mutil.log importing netmail from your system but
never shows up in my netmail folder. -----------------------------------------------------------
+ Dec 08 17:34:29 Extracting 0000FF84.FR4
- Dec 08 17:34:29 unzip -oqqjC "c:\mystic\echomail\in\0000FF84.FR4"
"*.pkt" -d c:\mystic\temputil\
+ Dec 08 17:34:29 Importing 000000FF.PKT (21:1/10 to 21:1/134)
+ Dec 08 17:34:29 Netmail from FMail AreaMgr to Ruben Figeuroa
+ Dec 08 17:34:29 Netmail from FMail AreaMgr to Ruben Figeuroa
+ Dec 08 17:34:29 Extracting 0000ffde.frl
- Dec 08 17:34:29 unzip -oqqjC "c:\mystic\echomail\in\0000ffde.frl"
"*.pkt" -d c:\mystic\temputil\
+ Dec 08 17:34:29 Importing 05a24b7c.pkt (21:1/100 to 21:1/134)
+ Dec 08 17:34:29 Import #21363 to FSX_GEN
+ Dec 08 17:34:29 Results: 1 echo, 2 net, 0 dupes, 0 tossed in 0.19s
+ Dec 08 17:34:29 Process: Linking Messages --------------------------------------------------------------------------
FYI

I only have on netmail base, where all my netmails go, at least use too. I don't have one specifically for fsxnet or any other.

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Mystic Prison Board BBS*Mesquite Tx (21:1/134)

On 12/08/16, Zazz pondered and said...

Here is a snippet of my mutil.log importing netmail from your system but never shows up in my netmail folder.

+ Dec 08 17:34:29 Importing 000000FF.PKT (21:1/10 to 21:1/134)
+ Dec 08 17:34:29 Netmail from FMail AreaMgr to Ruben Figeuroa
+ Dec 08 17:34:29 Netmail from FMail AreaMgr to Ruben Figeuroa

Hmm... so you don't see these in your netmail message base even though you
have sent an areafix to 21:1/10 from the same base? Is that correct?

If yes, can you let me know what name your netmail was sent under, was it
Ruben Figeuroa or ??

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (21:1/101)

On 12/08/16, Zazz pondered and said...

I only have on netmail base, where all my netmails go, at least use too.
I don't have one specifically for fsxnet or any other.

..and you have set up an echonode for 21:1/10 right? I expect this is a yes, but just checking. It looks like your sending areafix messages to 21:1/10 and getting replies back. Do you agree?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (21:1/101)

..and you have set up an echonode for 21:1/10 right? I expect this is a yes, but just checking. It looks like your sending areafix messages to 21:1/10 and getting replies back. Do you agree?

Yes I do, I was able to see the import but not see the netmail in Mystic.

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Mystic Prison Board BBS*Mesquite Tx (21:1/134)

On 12/08/16, Zazz said the following...

my netmail has always worked since I first set it up. I can send
netmail and it is received. However, not, when my Mystic bbs receives netmail I see when mutil import.ini is ran that it shows netmail
received. But I log in and check I do not find any netmail message in Netmail. I only find what I sent out.
Any thoughts? Don't know what I could have changed.

you sure it did not get set to local? also try re indexing your bass mbbsutil -fixindex

|08 .|05ú|13ù|15Dr|07e|08am Ma|07st|15er|13ù|05ú|08.
|08 øù|05ú|13ùø |13øù|05ú|08ùø
|11 DoRE|03!|11ACiDiC|03!|11Demonic |08[|15dreamland|09.|15darktech|09.|15org|08]

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: |08--[|15!|07dreamland BBS dreamland.darktech.org (21:1/163)

On 12/09/16, Avon said the following...

If yes, can you let me know what name your netmail was sent under, was it Ruben Figeuroa or ??

mystic does its own aka matching

|08 .|05ú|13ù|15Dr|07e|08am Ma|07st|15er|13ù|05ú|08.
|08 øù|05ú|13ùø |13øù|05ú|08ùø
|11 DoRE|03!|11ACiDiC|03!|11Demonic |08[|15dreamland|09.|15darktech|09.|15org|08]

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: |08--[|15!|07dreamland BBS dreamland.darktech.org (21:1/163)

you sure it did not get set to local? also try re indexing your bass mbbsutil -fixindex

I checked and it is set as netmail. I will run the indexing

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Mystic Prison Board BBS*Mesquite Tx (21:1/134)

On 12/08/16, Ruben Figueroa pondered and said...

I checked and it is set as netmail. I will run the indexing

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz

What name have you defined in the mystic config for the 'sysop' ?

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (21:1/101)

+ Dec 08 17:34:29 Importing 000000FF.PKT (21:1/10 to 21:1/134)
+ Dec 08 17:34:29 Netmail from FMail AreaMgr to Ruben Figeuroa
+ Dec 08 17:34:29 Netmail from FMail AreaMgr to Ruben Figeuroa

Hmm... so you don't see these in your netmail message base even though
you have sent an areafix to 21:1/10 from the same base? Is that correct?

If yes, can you let me know what name your netmail was sent under, was it Ruben Figeuroa or ??

It is Ruben Figueroa and still not showing up. I am out of ideas on what is going on. I have in my import.ini

forward = sysop;Ruben Figueroa
forward = system operator;Ruben Figueroa

and now going to add

forward = Ruben Figueroa;Ruben Figueroa

Won't hurt

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Mystic Prison Board BBS*Mesquite Tx (21:1/134)

What name have you defined in the mystic config for the 'sysop' ?

Best, Paul

Just checked:
Sysop Name Ruben Figueroa
Feedback to Sysop-Ruben

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Mystic Prison Board BBS*Mesquite Tx (21:1/134)

On 12/08/16, Ruben Figueroa pondered and said...

Sysop Name Ruben Figueroa
Feedback to Sysop-Ruben

I have a theory... will try and prove it first before I share it... want to
try and poll again with another netmail to /10 with a %HELP

Wait 1-2 mins then poll again to collect a reply, let me know if that one
makes it to your screen :)

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (21:1/101)

Hi Zazz!

08 Dec 2016 17:47, from Zazz -> Avon:

Here is a snippet of my mutil.log importing netmail from your system
but never shows up in my netmail folder.

Why not use some tool to show the REAL contents of the netmail msgbase?
Eg. point Golded to it, and see what is REALLY there.

CU, Ricsi

--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: Mistakes are often the stepping stones to utter failure (21:1/104)

On 12/08/16, Ruben Figueroa pondered and said...

Sysop Name Ruben Figueroa
Feedback to Sysop-Ruben

I have a theory... will try and prove it first before I share it... want to try and poll again with another netmail to /10 with a %HELP

Wait 1-2 mins then poll again to collect a reply, let me know if that one makes it to your screen :)

Ok, will do.

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Mystic Prison Board BBS*Mesquite Tx (21:1/134)

Why not use some tool to show the REAL contents of the netmail msgbase? Eg. point Golded to it, and see what is REALLY there.

CU, Ricsi

Well if I were using Golded I would.

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Mystic Prison Board BBS*Mesquite Tx (21:1/134)

I have a theory... will try and prove it first before I share it... want to try and poll again with another netmail to /10 with a %HELP

Wait 1-2 mins then poll again to collect a reply, let me know if that one makes it to your screen :)

Nope and it is just perplexing

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Mystic Prison Board BBS*Mesquite Tx (21:1/134)

On 12/09/16, Ruben Figueroa pondered and said...

Wait 1-2 mins then poll again to collect a reply, let me know if that makes it to your screen :)

Nope and it is just perplexing

I'm up early... trying to nut this one out.

The last line in your forwarding where you say forward to yourself ... I
would remove that.

I've made another change at this end, so want to try attempt number 32 :) ?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (21:1/101)

On 12/08/16, Ruben Figueroa pondered and said...

and now going to add

forward = Ruben Figueroa;Ruben Figueroa

I would remove this.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (21:1/101)

Hi Ruben!

09 Dec 2016 10:14, from Ruben Figueroa -> Richard Menedetter:

Why not use some tool to show the REAL contents of the netmail
msgbase? Eg. point Golded to it, and see what is REALLY there.

Well if I were using Golded I would.

Well ... then it would be a good point to start using it ;)

Honetsly ... it WILL show you exactly what is in your messagebase.
Something that Mystic obviously does not do, if it tosses amessage into a JAM area, and then refuses to show that message.

You can also use any other utility that shows you the contents of a JAM base.

CU, Ricsi

--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: Common sense is the least common of all senses (21:1/104)

On 12/08/16, Ruben Figueroa said the following...

you sure it did not get set to local? also try re indexing your bass mbbsutil -fixindex

I checked and it is set as netmail. I will run the indexing

let me know if that fixed it.

|08 .|05ú|13ù|15Dr|07e|08am Ma|07st|15er|13ù|05ú|08.
|08 øù|05ú|13ùø |13øù|05ú|08ùø
|11 DoRE|03!|11ACiDiC|03!|11Demonic |08[|15dreamland|09.|15darktech|09.|15org|08]

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: |08--[|15!|07dreamland BBS dreamland.darktech.org (21:1/163)

That could cause a circular forward. Then, the message would never be delivered.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Linux)
* Origin: -=-The ByteXchange BBS | bbs.thebytexchange.com-=- (21:1/111)

It is Ruben Figueroa and still not showing up. I am out of ideas on
what is going on. I have in my import.ini

forward = sysop;Ruben Figueroa

and now going to add

forward = Ruben Figueroa;Ruben Figueroa

Sorry, that last message was a reply to this..
You shouldnt have to forward to yourself.
I would think running a message base tool is the answer, and checking permissions (which I'm sure you have).

Maybe set it to be s01g00 for everything to ensure you dont have a security level keeping you from seeing messages (I had that once).

Also, check file permissions on your message base files (Also, had that).

-Ayex

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Linux)
* Origin: -=-The ByteXchange BBS | bbs.thebytexchange.com-=- (21:1/111)

you sure it did not get set to local? also try re indexing your mbbsutil -fixindex

I checked and it is set as netmail. I will run the indexing

let me know if that fixed it.

Nope.

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Mystic Prison Board BBS*Mesquite Tx (21:1/134)

Sorry, that last message was a reply to this..
You shouldnt have to forward to yourself.
I would think running a message base tool is the answer, and checking permissions (which I'm sure you have).

Maybe set it to be s01g00 for everything to ensure you dont have a security level keeping you from seeing messages (I had that once).

Well that thought had popped into my head but haven't gotten around to it. I'll let you know.

Ruben Figueroa aka Zazz
Mystic Prison Board Sysop
telnet://pb.darktech.org:24
Web: www.rdfig.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Mystic Prison Board BBS*Mesquite Tx (21:1/134)

Wait 1-2 mins then poll again to collect a reply, let me know if that makes it to your screen :)

Nope and it is just perplexing

Delete the files from the netmail area (\mystic\msgs\netmail.*) or whatever
you gave your netmail area for a jam base name

Then login and enter the netmail area so it will re-create it's datafiles.

Remove the forward lines from your mutil.ini for now. Get the netmail base working properly before putting them back.

Send an areafix requst to your uplink after checking to make sure the msg are ais flagged as netmail and you have every node address that you get mail from set in the export list

Outside of that if you still can't see netmail then something is very borked
on your setup

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Raspberry Pi)
* Origin: internal dimension ÷ idbbs.dlinkddns.com ÷ port 59 (21:1/178)

On 12/10/16, Ruben Figueroa said the following...

you sure it did not get set to local? also try re indexing mbbsutil -fixindex

I checked and it is set as netmail. I will run the indexing

let me know if that fixed it.

Nope.

what do the logs say now?

|08 .|05ú|13ù|15Dr|07e|08am Ma|07st|15er|13ù|05ú|08.
|08 øù|05ú|13ùø |13øù|05ú|08ùø
|11 DoRE|03!|11ACiDiC|03!|11Demonic |08[|15dreamland|09.|15darktech|09.|15org|08]

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: |08--[|15!|07dreamland BBS dreamland.darktech.org (21:1/163)

On 12/10/16, Ruben Figueroa said the following...

you sure it did not get set to local? also try re indexing mbbsutil -fixindex

I checked and it is set as netmail. I will run the indexing

let me know if that fixed it.

Nope.

check in the msgs directory and see if the base has a current time stamp.. do dir netmail.* and see. do you have a bad echo base?

|08 .|05ú|13ù|15Dr|07e|08am Ma|07st|15er|13ù|05ú|08.
|08 øù|05ú|13ùø |13øù|05ú|08ùø
|11 DoRE|03!|11ACiDiC|03!|11Demonic |08[|15dreamland|09.|15darktech|09.|15org|08]

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: |08--[|15!|07dreamland BBS dreamland.darktech.org (21:1/163)

Hi there

I've sent you a couple of test netmails from my Agency BBS address 21:1/101

One addressed to your real name and the other to your Alias - did you see either?

I can also see there's been a couple of areafix requests from /134 to the /10 gateway and replies sent back to /134 - how did you get on with them?

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Agency BBS | telnet://agency.bbs.geek.nz (21:1/101)