So I got alerted that the 'Send a password inquiry message to SysOp' is not working. If a user inputs the wrong password 3 times they get the option to select yes/no for the above, but if they select yes they receive:

'You don't have access to post here!' message then they are disconnected.

where does it post, in the E-mail section? if so I have set the post to this group level to be 's0' and 's1' but no luck.

Anyone know?


SHIFT838
FuSiON BBS
fusion.zapto.org:9900

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: FuSiON BBS (21:4/164)

On 16 Nov 2019 at 04:27p, SHIFT838 pondered and said...

'You don't have access to post here!' message then they are disconnected.

where does it post, in the E-mail section? if so I have set the post to this group level to be 's0' and 's1' but no luck.

Yes it is trying to send to BBS email.

For my user password policy I have

Ûßßßßßßßßßßßßßßß User Password Policy ßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßÜ
Û Û
Û Minimum Length ³ 7 Û
Û Minimum Capital Letters ³ 1 Û
Û Minimum Numbers ³ 1 Û
Û Minimum Symbols ³ 0 Û
Û Maximum Password Attempts ³ 3 Û
Û Force Password Change ³ 0 Û
Û Allow Password Inquiry ³ Yes Û
Û Allow Reset By E-mail ³ Yes Û
Û Password Storage Method ³ PBKDF2 SHA512 Hash Û
Û PBKDF2 512-bit Iterations ³ 1000 Û
Û Û ßÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÜÛ

In 'general settings' make sue you have your real name or alias that you
login in with correctly stated in the 'sysop name' and 'feedback to' fields.

Your BBS email base should be local and look something like this

Name ³ E-mail
Base Type ³ Local Quote Color ³ Sample Newsgroup ³ Text Color ³ Sample
QWK Name ³ EMAIL Tear Color ³ Sample
Echo Tag ³ EMAIL Origin Color ³ Sample
File Name ³ email Kludge Color ³ Sample
Path ³ c:\bbs\mystic\msgs\local\ Max Msgs ³ 0
List ACS ³ % Max Msg Age ³ 0
Read ACS ³ New Scan ³ Yes
Post ACS ³ QWK Scan ³ Yes
Sysop ACS ³ s255 Header ³ msghead
List EACS ³ R Template ³ ansimrd
³ L Template ³ ansimlst
Net Address ³ 0:0/0 (Local - Do not remove!) Real Names ³ No
Export To ³ 0 node(s) Autosigs ³ No
Origin ³ Agency BBS Private ³ Yes
QWK Network ³ None Pvt Reply ³ No
QWK Base ID ³ 0 Allow ANSI ³ No


Hope that helps,

My hunch is that the sysop stuff is not set up so it can't send things to you

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

I had the Sysop and Feedback to setup correctly. I did not have my access setup correctly like I thought.

I made my access to match yours and it all worked.

now I want to tackle sendmail to so users can reset their passwords.

I have not had much luck with getting sendmail to work at all, not even from
a CLI.


SHIFT838
FuSiON BBS
fusion.zapto.org:9900

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: FuSiON BBS (21:4/164)

On 16 Nov 2019, SHIFT838 said the following...

now I want to tackle sendmail to so users can reset their passwords.

I have not had much luck with getting sendmail to work at all, not even from a CLI.

A couple of things. As I understand it, SMTP or Sendmail, as it relates to MIS/Mystic BBS, isn't SMTP as we understand it in regular Internet email.
i.e., I think I recall Paul saying that although it's SMTP/POP3 and maybe
IMAP, it is still merely *email* in the Mystic, Not Internet sense - meaning, it's local only, so you can configure your MUA (mail client) like Thunderbird or MailSpring to send/receive email to/from other *local* users registered on your BBS.

But I stand to be corrected on that ;)

Further, if you do run Mystic's SMTP service, make sure it doesn't collide
with the MTA (Sendmail/Exim/Postfix/etc.) and related daemons bound to the SMTP/POP/IMAP ports on your box.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Vger.Cloud - NOMAD Internetwork (21:2/104)

On 16 Nov 2019 at 10:14p, SHIFT838 pondered and said...

I made my access to match yours and it all worked.

Cool. glad I could help.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

The sendmail was actually fairly easy to configure. (once i read that part
on the wiki!)

The key piece I was missing was that I had to compile the cryptlib library as mystic looks for the library file when running. Once I did that and copied
it to the /usr/lib folder then everything started magically working...

Users can now send me a comment after the 3 failed password attemps or if
they have registered a valid email they can reset their password themselves.

Now I'm wondering if there is a module that will autovalidate based on a
valid email address for Mystic.


SHIFT838
FuSiON BBS
fusion.zapto.org:9900

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: FuSiON BBS (21:4/164)

I have not had much luck with getting sendmail to work at all, not even from a CLI.

I made a BBS gmail account and hooked up sendmail to gmail. That's really the only way I can send an internet email from my BBS. I mean, I suppose it's possible to setup an actual email server, but it isn't worth the headache and will never work all that well.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
* Origin: monterey bbs (21:1/168)

On 16 Nov 2019, tallship said the following...

A couple of things. As I understand it, SMTP or Sendmail, as it relates
to MIS/Mystic BBS, isn't SMTP as we understand it in regular Internet email. i.e., I think I recall Paul saying that although it's SMTP/POP3
and maybe IMAP, it is still merely *email* in the Mystic, Not Internet sense - meaning, it's local only, so you can configure your MUA (mail client) like Thunderbird or MailSpring to send/receive email to/from
other *local* users registered on your BBS.

But I stand to be corrected on that ;)

You are correct, I currently receive all of my private email on my phone from my Mystic. Although I have not fully tested responding via the phone.. Works like a charm..

Further, if you do run Mystic's SMTP service, make sure it doesn't
collide with the MTA (Sendmail/Exim/Postfix/etc.) and related daemons bound to the SMTP/POP/IMAP ports on your box.

The "SMTP" does work at a entry level way right now in my opinion. If you
have the board configured, a user who has password issues can request a code
be sent to the email address on file and it will allow the user to reset
their password without having to wait for a sysOp to do so. That works great,
I also added to that with making the system ask a new user on login if they would like to be autovalidated, on login for anyone with less then access
code 20 on my system the BBS on login with ask if they want to upgrade their access level and if they choose yes, the BBS will send a code to their email address on file and when they enter it it upgrades their access to 20 which
is a validated/unvalidated access level for me, they have access to
everything but that level is used by me as a way for me to track people who didn't enter email adresses or fake ones, or fake names etc. That access
level gets weeded on a 3 month basis. Anything over that is non weeded.. yea
I can be a real dick.. LOL

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)

On 17 Nov 2019, SHIFT838 said the following...

Now I'm wondering if there is a module that will autovalidate based on a valid email address for Mystic.

There is it's not a module, in fact it can all be done in the prelogin menu,
in the commands before the menu is show section. I have my system set up as follows after it sends the node message when someone logs on I have:

-V as the command to validate email address
s10:s15 as the access
and emailvalidate as the data option

before that I also display a file telling the new user that if they want
access immediately they can do the following to have the system autovalidate them..

Works great, many new users have done it and when I see a new user in my
email I check their access if it has been updated I know their email is fine and I up them another level to get them to non weed status. If they didn't I look at the info they gave me and if I don't like it I bump them to the
access level they would have gotten if they went through it and they get
weeded out in 3 months if they don't call back..

The things you can do with the menu system on Mystic is unreal. Solaris has
his system doing things that are truly unreal and I steal a lot of what he
does for my system..

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Windows/32)
* Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)

I did the exact same thing. I setup a gmail account and connected it via the BBS. Works great.


SHIFT838
FuSiON BBS
fusion.zapto.org:9900

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: FuSiON BBS (21:4/164)

Nice. I will have to see if I can get this figured out to validate the email.


SHIFT838
FuSiON BBS
fusion.zapto.org:9900

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 2019/03/03 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: FuSiON BBS (21:4/164)