Any chance that we could see the option for RIPScript and RIP Grafix implemented in a near future version of Mystic? I always enjoyed being able
to have higher resolution graphics as well as sound and music files for my menus.

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On 13 Aug 2019 at 07:05p, Lupine Furmen pondered and said...

Any chance that we could see the option for RIPScript and RIP Grafix implemented in a near future version of Mystic? I always enjoyed being able to have higher resolution graphics as well as sound and music files for my menus.

Unknown Dallas.... until we see g00r00 resurface it's hard to say if/when
this may come along as an option. Personally I have not seen a lot of demand for it from others in the past. So I'd tend to think James would opt for
other stuff on his TO-DO first - but that's just a guess on my part.

Good to note it here though and if others chime in support of it, that's helpful to also capture.

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On 08-13-19 19:05, Lupine Furmen wrote to All <=-

Any chance that we could see the option for RIPScript and RIP Grafix implemented in a near future version of Mystic? I always enjoyed being able to have higher resolution graphics as well as sound and music
files for my menus.

Hmm, sound, no thanks, unless I have control to turn it on and off. That's a pet hate with some websites. But I would like to try a RIP BBS sometime.


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Hmm, sound, no thanks, unless I have control to turn it on and off. That's a pet hate with some websites. But I would like to try a RIP BBS sometime.

I don't know if Black Flag still has a RIP BBS going... I never saw one for real, but i saw Black Flag RIP on youtube once a while back, looks pretty
cool. Only works with Windows though I hear.

Wonder if anyone can knock up a quick RIP compatible terminal for Linux? =)

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On 14 Aug 2019, MeaTLoTioN said the following...

Hmm, sound, no thanks, unless I have control to turn it on and off. That's a pet hate with some websites. But I would like to try a RIP sometime.

I don't know if Black Flag still has a RIP BBS going... I never saw one for real, but i saw Black Flag RIP on youtube once a while back, looks pretty cool. Only works with Windows though I hear.

Wonder if anyone can knock up a quick RIP compatible terminal for Linux? =)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzgUSGzqFdk - I found it =)

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Re: Re: RIP Grafix
By: Vk3jed to Lupine Furmen on Wed Aug 14 2019 06:49 pm

Any chance that we could see the option for RIPScript and RIP Grafix
implemented in a near future version of Mystic? I always enjoyed
being able to have higher resolution graphics as well as sound and
music files for my menus.

a pet hate with some websites. But I would like to try a RIP BBS sometime.

I would love to see Ripscript on Mystic. I thought I read Mystic "supports" Rip? Of course it would need some Rip screens to work. I don't see any on my copy of it. Synchronet has a few Rip menus. As far as I know you need the program called Riptel for Windows to view a Rip BBS. I don't know of any rip sofware for linux. Once you get Riptel installed you can try connecting to blackflag.acid.org port 24. It's an old revival of Searchlight BBS. It's Riped and has LORD in full Rip. Worth checking out. I ran a Searchlight BBS back in the day. I'm a big fan of Rip. ;-) Tell Hawk Hubbard I sent ya.

HusTler

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Re: Re: RIP Grafix
By: MeaTLoTioN to Vk3jed on Wed Aug 14 2019 03:12 pm

That's a pet hate with some websites. But I would like to try a RIP

I don't know if Black Flag still has a RIP BBS going... I never saw one for real, but i saw Black Flag RIP on youtube once a while back, looks pretty cool. Only works with Windows though I hear.

Oh yea BF is alive and well the rip board is blackflag.acid.org:24

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Re: Re: RIP Grafix
By: MeaTLoTioN to Vk3jed on Wed Aug 14 2019 03:12 pm

pretty cool. Only works with Windows though I hear.

Wonder if anyone can knock up a quick RIP compatible terminal for Linux?

Yes Riptel is only compatable with Windows. I run a BBS in Linux and because I love Rip so much I installed a VM with Windows XP just to use Ripscript.

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On 08-14-19 15:12, MeaTLoTioN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I don't know if Black Flag still has a RIP BBS going... I never saw one for real, but i saw Black Flag RIP on youtube once a while back, looks pretty cool. Only works with Windows though I hear.

Thought there was one on port 24. Have to go back through my messahes.

Wonder if anyone can knock up a quick RIP compatible terminal for
Linux? =)

I have Windows available, which will do the trick for me. :) You could try a Windows terminal under WINE.


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On 08-14-19 15:40, HusTler wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I would love to see Ripscript on Mystic. I thought I read Mystic "supports" Rip? Of course it would need some Rip screens to work. I
don't see any on my copy of it. Synchronet has a few Rip menus. As far
as I know you need the program called Riptel for Windows to view a Rip BBS. I don't know of any rip sofware for linux. Once you get Riptel installed you can try connecting to blackflag.acid.org port 24. It's an old revival of Searchlight BBS. It's Riped and has LORD in full Rip.
Worth checking out. I ran a Searchlight BBS back in the day. I'm a big
fan of Rip. ;-) Tell Hawk Hubbard I sent ya.

Hmm, looks like I need a 32 bit version of Windows. :(


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I don't know how any of your current systems work, but with SuperBBS its possible to do RIPscript via its language files. Which allow you to change the
menus or screens that you send, so RIP would be chosen as your language, you can have on/off as part of the ansi on/off settings.

Perhaps something similar is possible.

Spec


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I think that would be Fantastic if g00r00 could implement RIP in Mystic.
I've wanted to do RIP so much... I can get a lot more creative than with Ansi.

So here is 1 Vote for RIP

Gary Crunk - Another F-ing BBS : anotherbbs.dynu.net Port 23
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Hmm, looks like I need a 32 bit version of Windows. :(

I have a program that runs in DOSBOX Called RIPTERM.ZIP. Works great.
You get it at Another F-ing BBS.

Gary Crunk - Another F-ing BBS : anotherbbs.dynu.net Port 23
Quazar BBS Door Game Server: quazarbbs.dynu.net Port 2323
300 F-ing Baud BBS: 300baud.dynu.net Port 2525

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On 08-15-19 10:09, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I don't know how any of your current systems work, but with SuperBBS
its possible to do RIPscript via its language files. Which allow you
to change the
menus or screens that you send, so RIP would be chosen as your
language, you can have on/off as part of the ansi on/off settings.

Perhaps something similar is possible.

Hmm, needed some quoting to establish context. I don't know what this was in reference to.

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On 08-16-19 00:42, garycrunk wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Hmm, looks like I need a 32 bit version of Windows. :(

I have a program that runs in DOSBOX Called RIPTERM.ZIP. Works great.
You get it at Another F-ing BBS.

Thanks. That should work here. :)


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Re: Re: RIP Grafix
By: Avon to Lupine Furmen on Wed Aug 14 2019 01:28 pm

Unknown Dallas.... until we see g00r00 resurface it's hard to say if/when this may come along as an option. Personally I have not seen a lot of demand for it from others in the past. So I'd tend to think James would opt for other stuff on his TO-DO first - but that's just a guess on my part.

I know I'm the new kid on the block but I have questions on this RIP tech. I saw a demo video linked on a reply to this thread and RIP indeed looks hella sick. I wonder if the music itself
hogs the bandwidth and if it is user controllable. The user should be able to disable the music first of all. And if the rip graphics work as I think they do, then the user's only
downloading the code for the graphics while the software draws it. Do you concur with this assumption?

Going by what others are saying, the RIP clients out there are written only for
windows. Are they not executable in WINE?



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looks hella sick. I wonder if the music itself
hogs the bandwidth and if it is user controllable. The user should be

Considering RIP was working well with Dial-Up. Since we now have Telnet, the speeds are super great. So you should not see any difference.

Going by what others are saying, the RIP clients out there are written only for windows. Are they not executable in WINE?

I have RIPTERM.ZIP on Another F-ing BBS anotherbbs.dynu.net Port 23
that runs in DOSBOX (Works really well).

Gary Crunk - Another F-ing BBS : anotherbbs.dynu.net Port 23
Quazar BBS Door Game Server: quazarbbs.dynu.net Port 2323
300 F-ing Baud BBS: 300baud.dynu.net Port 2525

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Re: Re: RIP Grafix
By: garycrunk to calcmandan on Fri Aug 16 2019 03:31 pm

looks hella sick. I wonder if the music itself
hogs the bandwidth and if it is user controllable. The user should be

Considering RIP was working well with Dial-Up. Since we now have Telnet,

the

speeds are super great. So you should not see any difference.

Going by what others are saying, the RIP clients out there are written only for windows. Are they not executable in WINE?

I have RIPTERM.ZIP on Another F-ing BBS anotherbbs.dynu.net Port 23
that runs in DOSBOX (Works really well).

Gary Crunk - Another F-ing BBS : anotherbbs.dynu.net Port 23
Quazar BBS Door Game Server: quazarbbs.dynu.net Port 2323
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Coool. I use dosbox to play ultima 3 which i'm thinking of porting into a door game.

I'll give ripterm.zip a shot. I'll see if the board i use has it on its file area.

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On 08-16-19 10:18, calcmandan wrote to Avon <=-

I know I'm the new kid on the block but I have questions on this RIP
tech. I saw a demo video linked on a reply to this thread and RIP
indeed looks hella sick. I wonder if the music itself
hogs the bandwidth and if it is user controllable. The user should be
able to disable the music first of all. And if the rip graphics work as

Music should be opt in, as far as I'm concerned. I detest anything that unexpectedly plays audio. Often, the encironment is not conducive to that. Thanksfully, many websites have realised this, and even Facebook offers (and I have enabled) to autoplay videos with no audio (which I can turn on if I want).

BBSing, like web surfing is largely a visually driven experience, and unexpected audio can be an intrusion. Sure, make it optional, but don't foist it upon unsuspecting users. :)

I think they do, then the user's only
downloading the code for the graphics while the software draws it. Do
you concur with this assumption?

I know nothing about RIP. Never had the opportunity to use it. :(

Going by what others are saying, the RIP clients out there are written only for
windows. Are they not executable in WINE?

Well, being old 16 bit Windows apps, they're not usable on Winn64 either. :(


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Re: Re: RIP Grafix
By: Vk3jed to calcmandan on Sat Aug 17 2019 10:57 am

I just installed it on dosbox in linux. It wants a modem. I"ve seen someone on youtube telnetting into a board but he had hardware for it. Weird.
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On 08-16-19 18:19, calcmandan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Re: Re: RIP Grafix
By: Vk3jed to calcmandan on Sat Aug 17 2019 10:57 am

I just installed it on dosbox in linux. It wants a modem. I"ve seen someone on youtube telnetting into a board but he had hardware for it.

Setup the virtual modem on DOSBox and all should be sweet. :)


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I know I'm the new kid on the block but I have questions on this RIP
tech. I saw a demo video linked on a reply to this thread and RIP indeed looks hella sick. I wonder if the music itself
hogs the bandwidth and if it is user controllable. The user should be
able to disable the music first of all. And if the rip graphics work as
I think they do, then the user's only
downloading the code for the graphics while the software draws it. Do you concur with this assumption?

The audio is not high quality, thus it's negligible in size and downloads
very fast. But it's also optional.

The graphics are similar to ansi, if you look at the actual RIP files on
disk, they are just instructions for how a screen is to be drawn and where
the buttons are (and what they look like). The RIP client actually draws everything.

Going by what others are saying, the RIP clients out there are written only for windows. Are they not executable in WINE?

They are fully executable in WINE. :)

That said it'd be cool to have a newer client that is still under active development.

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Re: Re: RIP Grafix
By: ryan to calcmandan on Fri Aug 16 2019 09:29 pm

That said it'd be cool to have a newer client that is still under active development.

Maybe we can start a campaign to gather a group of coders to create a modern cliet and initiate a kickstarter to collect money and pay them as an incentive.
Then release it GPL.
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Re: Re: RIP Grafix
By: Vk3jed to calcmandan on Sat Aug 17 2019 12:06 pm

Setup the virtual modem on DOSBox and all should be sweet. :)

I'll try that. Time to google addig virtual modems in dosbox.
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On 08-16-19 22:27, calcmandan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Re: Re: RIP Grafix
By: Vk3jed to calcmandan on Sat Aug 17 2019 12:06 pm

Setup the virtual modem on DOSBox and all should be sweet. :)

I'll try that. Time to google addig virtual modems in dosbox.

Yes, or I can look up my config file to get the syntax of the port definition. :)

serial1=modem irq:4 listenport:2323

I've set mine up so I can have a BBS listening on port 2323. :) That's the port DOSBox sees as COM1. :)


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On 16 Aug 2019, calcmandan said the following...

That said it'd be cool to have a newer client that is still under activ development.

I agree. I have a couple hundred RIP related files, screens, menus, icons, viewer programs, drawing programs, utilities, etc from the 90's that I stuck
up on our board. Definitely moldy oldies, but they're there for your perusal and/or reverse engineering efforts. :) The RIP Graphics file area is in the Local Hard Drive Group and is accessible first call without going through the email verification process.

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Re: Re: RIP Grafix
By: Vk3jed to calcmandan on Sat Aug 17 2019 07:00 pm

serial1=modem irq:4 listenport:2323

I tried this and it didn't do anything. I will try again withot the port listening. I just typed that line in dos and it seemed to understand it. dosbox doesn't seem to let me save any configs so that's one thing to figure out. dosbox is a really new thing for me.
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Re: Re: RIP Grafix
By: Scarecrow to All on Sat Aug 17 2019 06:09 am

On 16 Aug 2019, calcmandan said the following...

That said it'd be cool to have a newer client that is still under

activ

development.

I agree. I have a couple hundred RIP related files, screens, menus, icons, viewer programs, drawing programs, utilities, etc from the 90's that I stuck up on our board. Definitely moldy oldies, but they're there for your perusal and/or reverse engineering efforts. :) The RIP Graphics file area is in the Local Hard Drive Group and is accessible first call without going through

the

email verification process.

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Ok that's on my list of priorities.
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Re: Re: RIP Grafix
By: calcmandan to Vk3jed on Sun Aug 18 2019 12:57 am

serial1=modem irq:4 listenport:2323

I tried this and it didn't do anything. I will try again withot the port listening. I just typed that line in dos and it seemed to understand it. dosbox doesn't seem to let me save any configs so that's one thing to figure out. dosbox is a really new thing for me.

You don't type that at the command prompt, you put it in your dosbox.conf file.
If memory serves there is a shortcut to editing dosbox.conf in your start menu in the dosbox section.

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On 08-18-19 11:38, Immortal wrote to calcmandan <=-

You don't type that at the command prompt, you put it in your
dosbox.conf file.
If memory serves there is a shortcut to editing dosbox.conf in your start menu in the dosbox section.

There is on Windows systems at least.


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Re: Re: RIP Grafix
By: Vk3jed to Immortal on Mon Aug 19 2019 06:56 pm

On 08-18-19 11:38, Immortal wrote to calcmandan <=-

You don't type that at the command prompt, you put it in your dosbox.conf file.
If memory serves there is a shortcut to editing dosbox.conf in your start menu in the dosbox section.

There is on Windows systems at least.

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On 08-19-19 09:07, calcmandan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I use linux and I had foudn the conf file. I made the changes but it
still isn't connecting. I'm just going to consider this a crapshoot and move on.

The virtual modem should work on Linux. I've been using it on Windows. It doesn't work on iOS, and I only know of one Android implementation (Magic DOSBox) where it works.


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