Some good news for a change. As Omicron spread we've seen raw data that suggests it is much more transmissible, much less virulent, infects vaccinated and unvaccinated alike, and seems to be displacing the more virulent Delta variant.

Researchers in South Africa conducted scientific experiments which showed that Omicron does indeed displace Delta. It seems a Delta infect does not impart immunity of Omicron but Omicron imparts great immunity of Delta.

This is the beginning of the end. Where the COVID pandemic transitions to endemic. Where for the vast majority of the populace it is not a severe illness (vulnerable aside of course unfortunately).

Here is the research paper (a PDF at www.ahri.org):

https://tinyurl.com/49kucndz

and here is a good explainer video from Dr. John Campbell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYLbJ0H8zdc

I'm quite optimistic about Omicron and what it appears to mean for the pandemic.

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Some good news for a change. As Omicron spread we've seen raw data that suggests it is much more transmissible, much less virulent, infects vaccinated and unvaccinated alike, and seems to be displacing the more virulent Delta variant.

No surprise. We've known for a long time now that the life span of a virus it toward less and less lethal versions. The purpose of a virus is to make more and more copies of itself. Killing the host is bad for that goal.

But seeing that the recovery rate of COVID started at 99+%, and the variants are much less lethal, why does anyone still care about COVID anymore?

This is the beginning of the end.

Not even close. COVID was always political and the power hungry will not give up their illegally gotten power easily.


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On 03 Jan 2022, Otto Reverse said the following...

This is the beginning of the end. Where the COVID pandemic transitions to endemic. Where for the vast majority of the populace it is not a severe illness (vulnerable aside of course unfortunately).

Yeah, here's hoping... Apparently, historically this is how they tend to evolve... thanks for the good news!

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No surprise. We've known for a long time now that the life span of a virus it toward less and less lethal versions. The purpose of a virus

Exactly.

But seeing that the recovery rate of COVID started at 99+%, and the variants are much less lethal, why does anyone still care about COVID anymore?

I think (at least in my corner of the world) it has been a messaging failure. Things that were common knowledge about viruses and pandemics seemed to be "forgotten". Different messaging targeting specific groups/demographics would have worked better.

Where I live some are starting to care less and others are hanging on. It will take time for the scared to stop being afraid. Not talking about the vulnerable of course, but regular people. Two years of COVID news, daily briefs by politicians and public health officials etc can't be good for the psyche.

This is the beginning of the end.

Not even close. COVID was always political and the power hungry will
not give up their illegally gotten power easily.

Well that will be a region by region thing. The Premiere and top public health doc in my province have already had a marked change in their tone at news briefs. They have signalled Omicron is the path to transitioning from pandemic to an endemic virus and learning to get on with our lives. But it will probably take time to unwind as much of the public still equate COVID to previous variants and haven't been able to accept Omicron for what it is. We'll get there. I'm optimistic for a change.

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On 01-03-22 06:28, Otto Reverse wrote to All <=-

Researchers in South Africa conducted scientific experiments which
showed that Omicron does indeed displace Delta. It seems a Delta infect does not impart immunity of Omicron but Omicron imparts great immunity
of Delta.

Interesting and good news.

This is the beginning of the end. Where the COVID pandemic transitions
to endemic. Where for the vast majority of the populace it is not a
severe illness (vulnerable aside of course unfortunately).

The evidence I've seen suggests that Omicron is significantly less severe than Delta and previous variants. Seems to be becoming like a flu in some respects - a relatively mild illness for many, but still deadly to vulnerable people. What doesn't seem to be known yet is the amount of long covid cases or those left with permanent damage from Omicron. I don't think that data's in yet.

I'm quite optimistic about Omicron and what it appears to mean for the pandemic.

There are some promising signs. However, some scientists aren't so sure that Covid will become truly endemic, but may be more "episodic", where epidemic scale outbreaks occue from time to time, which will need to be dealt with.


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Otto Reverse wrote to Dr. What <=-

I think (at least in my corner of the world) it has been a messaging failure. Things that were common knowledge about viruses and pandemics seemed to be "forgotten". Different messaging targeting specific groups/demographics would have worked better.

If it was a few ignorant politicians, I would call it a "messaging failure".

But it's more than a few, plus nearly all the media, and much of the medical systems. Add to that the active suppression of all discussion that goes counter to the Narrative.

So I can't tell it a "messaging failure". It's "fact suppression", plain and simple, for the purpose of controlling the populace.

Where I live some are starting to care less and others are hanging on.
It will take time for the scared to stop being afraid. Not talking
about the vulnerable of course, but regular people. Two years of COVID news, daily briefs by politicians and public health officials etc can't
be good for the psyche.

That's why our TV hasn't been on for more than 15 minutes for the past 2 years.

Well that will be a region by region thing. The Premiere and top public health doc in my province have already had a marked change in their
tone at news briefs. They have signalled Omicron is the path to transitioning from pandemic to an endemic virus and learning to get on with our lives.

Which is the same lies they I've heard from the Elites for the last 2 years. I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, they are lying.

But it will probably take time to unwind as much of the
public still equate COVID to previous variants and haven't been able to accept Omicron for what it is. We'll get there. I'm optimistic for a change.

I lost my optimism a while ago on this. Unfortunately, it seems that the only way to get our lives back is to give up our lives and get into politics to a certain extent to fight off the ignorant Leftie Elites who have no lives, but want to control everyone else's.


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If it was a few ignorant politicians, I would call it a "messaging failure".

While I would like to discuss the political aspects with you, fsxNet is supposed to be politics free and I wasn't intending to start a political COVID discussion, rather one around Omicron displacing Delta while imparting good immunity etc. We can certainly take the political discussion to DoveNet or FidoNet if you wish.

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Otto Reverse wrote to Dr. What <=-

If it was a few ignorant politicians, I would call it a "messaging failure".

While I would like to discuss the political aspects with you, fsxNet is supposed to be politics free and I wasn't intending to start a
political COVID discussion, rather one around Omicron displacing Delta while imparting good immunity etc. We can certainly take the political discussion to DoveNet or FidoNet if you wish.

You are welcome to continue it in the Fido POLITICS area. I believe you
are both posters there.


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Otto Reverse wrote to Dr. What <=-

But seeing that the recovery rate of COVID started at 99+%, and the variants are much less lethal, why does anyone still care about COVID anymore?

My question is what is the %age for any virus where we simply 'stop talking about it?'

I know that COVID and the FLU are not the same thing, but many people do die
of the flu every year, it does not hit the news, media. People just 'accept' that so many people will die of the FLU.

Covid hits harder, and kills faster, people create vacines to help protect others, socieity takes these vacines. Case numbers decrease, people still
get infected, and people still die.

Twenty years from now, people will still get COVID, and will still die (hopefully in much smaller numbers!)..but what is the percentage of 'acceptable' deaths before it is no longer a newsworthy story?

For that matter, extend this question to any illness. Heart Attacks,
strokes, diabetes. I wonder what kind of world it would be if the
governments held daily news coferences on the number of people who
died yesterday from heart attacks? Would it cause a major lash back
on 'anti-cholosterolers'. Arguing - don't let the government tell you
what to eat! It's your freedom?

To be fair, you can't spread a heart attack of course...hmmm or can you?

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Re: Re: COVID Good News
By: GeekWisdom to Otto Reverse on Mon Jan 17 2022 03:24 am

To be fair, you can't spread a heart attack of course...hmmm or can you?

I can make copies of raeggeton albums and distribute them, causing instant brain stroke to anybody who listens to them. It is not a heart attack but it is close enough.

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I can make copies of raeggeton albums and distribute them, causing
instant
brain stroke to anybody who listens to them. It is not a heart attack
but it is
close enough.

Id rather listen to raggeton albums than to do other things in life.

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My question is what is the %age for any virus where we simply 'stop talking about it?'

I know that COVID and the FLU are not the same thing, but many people do die of the flu every year, it does not hit the news, media. People just 'accept' that so many people will die of the FLU.

Well I suppose we are going to find out in the weeks and months to come as the Omicron wave passes, imparts good immunity, and becomes endemic. Our next couple of flu seasons will really be Omicron seasons. But other than the same people who are at risk of dying from the flu as well as Omicron, the rest will have to treat it in very much the same way as any other flu season.

It's coming. Omicron is a blessing, as much as a virus can be. Delta is being wiped out. 2022 is shaping up to be a much better year. Probably won't be 2019 and earlier good. But it will be better than 2020 and 2021. Mark my words lol.

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