This month my local council decided that it would add rubbish collection
to its list of services. I know. Brave new world.

So we got given general rubbish bins as well as one for
paper/cans/plastic, and a small bucket style bin for glass.

I was worried at first when they gave me one of the dinky general waste
bins, thinking that I filled a big one most weeks. Well, it turns out
that the paper/cans/plastic bin is taking up a lot of the slack.

But it's weird having to think about washing everything, because before
it was just, yeah, whatever, chuck it in the trash. Let the seagulls sort
it out.

Even my friends who come over haven't got to grips with it yet. When we
got burgers for wargaming on Sunday, they came with cans. One of my
friends automatically went to chuck it in the trash and I had to stop
him! Wait! We have to wash it and recycle it now!

Haha. I wonder how long it'll last before people get sick of it and just
start chucking everything into the general waste bins. Or throwing cans
whether they've got food scraps left in them or not.


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On 08 Jul 2021, JOE DOOM said the following...

So we got given general rubbish bins as well as one for paper/cans/plastic, and a small bucket style bin for glass.

The city I live in has us down to one trash bag allowed per week along with unlimited "blue boxes" (recycling) and "green bins" (compost) and yard waste bags.

But it's weird having to think about washing everything, because before
it was just, yeah, whatever, chuck it in the trash. Let the seagulls sort it out.

I totally half-ass that. Pop cans I don't rinse at all, cat food cans I'll rinse quickly and then chuck it in the blue box.

Even my friends who come over haven't got to grips with it yet. When we got burgers for wargaming on Sunday, they came with cans. One of my friends automatically went to chuck it in the trash and I had to stop
him! Wait! We have to wash it and recycle it now!

I remember my Mom doing that when recycling became a "thing" when I as kid.

She'd do that "mom" thing where she had eyes on the back of her head. I'd be walking towards the garbage with a pop can and seemingly out of nowhere "Jason, is that where the pop can should go?"

Haha. I wonder how long it'll last before people get sick of it and just start chucking everything into the general waste bins. Or throwing cans whether they've got food scraps left in them or not.

That's why my city went from 3 bags of trash per week, down to two and now down to one. If you're only allowed one bag per week, you can fill it up pretty quick.


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The city I live in has us down to one trash bag allowed per week along with unlimited "blue boxes" (recycling) and "green bins" (compost) and yard waste bags.

As a person who has read up a fair amount on recycling and who has a hard
time sharing a recycling bin with neighbors because people reliably do it wrong...

I'm not a fan of this. Because then it encourages people to put more in recycling. And people should probably throw more of the "recycling" away.

But aluminium cans? Those are worth it. If only we could fine people for throwing away aluminium, and then be, "eh, nice if you do the right thing; please don't contaminate the recycling, though"

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The city I live in has us down to one trash bag allowed per week along
with unlimited "blue boxes" (recycling) and "green bins" (compost) and
yard waste bags.

Unlimited? Wow. Do you just have to buy the blue bins off them?

Green bins is a good point. I didn't get one and I presumed they cost
money, but maybe they're free. I should probably check.

I totally half-ass that. Pop cans I don't rinse at all, cat food cans
I'll rinse quickly and then chuck it in the blue box.

It took me a few more references to "pop cans" to understand what you
meant. haha. I thought you were popping cans into the bin.. :D

That's why my city went from 3 bags of trash per week, down to two and
now down to one. If you're only allowed one bag per week, you can
fill it up pretty quick.

In other areas in the city I've lived, trash bags used to be a thing. One
day they decided you could only use their officially branded council bags
that cost about $1 each and you could only leave 1 bag per household. I
mean a) these bags were frickin tiny, and b) if we're going to pay a
premium for them don't you *want* us to leave out 20 bags per household? Because you've then just made $20 per house...

But I've never seen a council that could be accused of making an
intelligent decision.



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On 09 Jul 2021, JOE DOOM said the following...

Unlimited? Wow. Do you just have to buy the blue bins off them?

They're free, you just have to go to a city facility to pick them up. Quite often in the winter when it gets very cold the blue boxes can easily crack when the worker whips the blue bin up your driveway after emptying it into the truck. I sometimes wonder if they're TRYING to bust them...

Green bins is a good point. I didn't get one and I presumed they cost money, but maybe they're free. I should probably check.

They're free in my city as well, just have to go pick them up.

It took me a few more references to "pop cans" to understand what you meant. haha. I thought you were popping cans into the bin.. :D

Yeah, here in Canada we call it pop, Americans call it soda. Not sure other countries call it.

In other areas in the city I've lived, trash bags used to be a thing. One day they decided you could only use their officially branded council bags that cost about $1 each and you could only leave 1 bag per household.

Our city allows one bag. If you want/need to put out more you can get a trash tag (a long colourful sticker) to put on a 2nd/3rd/4th bag.

But I've never seen a council that could be accused of making an intelligent decision.

Our city was talking about switching to bi-weekly pickups, I think that was more about saving the city money than a convenience for the residents. Who wants to keep their trash around for two weeks stinking up the garage? That idea was shot down very quickly, though they do keep bringing it up every now & then.


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easily crack when the worker whips the blue bin up your driveway after emptying it into the truck. I sometimes wonder if they're TRYING to
bust them...

Or maybe they're playing a game among their colleagues and are working on
high scores! Most damaged, most undamaged, farthest thrown! hahah

Yeah, here in Canada we call it pop, Americans call it soda. Not sure
other countries call it.

Funny the different names we all have for the same things. Here in NZ we generally call the drinks fizzy drinks, but the cans we don't call
anything specific. Maybe drink cans if we're trying to differentiate them
from something.. but normally just "cans".

Our city was talking about switching to bi-weekly pickups, I think
that was more about saving the city money than a convenience for the residents. Who wants to keep their trash around for two weeks
stinking up the garage? That idea was shot down very quickly, though
they do keep bringing it up every now & then.

Bet it costs them more each year discussing it internally than they'd
actually save by doing it. sigh. Councils eh? Who'd have em?


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Warpslide wrote to JOE DOOM <=-

Our city was talking about switching to bi-weekly pickups, I think that was more about saving the city money than a convenience for the
residents. Who wants to keep their trash around for two weeks stinking
up the garage? That idea was shot down very quickly, though they do
keep bringing it up every now & then.

That's what they do here. Bi-weekly pickup of your two bags. It's obviously an issue because you see people driving around stuffing garbage bags into
any available unlocked can they can find.

Most of the tim hortons no longer have garbage bins because people would
just stuff giant household garbage bags in them.

We live in a building, so we take our recycling down to the recycle room
and just chuck the garbage bags down the chute. It's glorious! ;)

Shawn


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Hello JoE DooM!

** On Saturday 10.07.21 - 15:06, JoE DooM wrote to Warpslide:

Bet it costs them more each year discussing it internally
than they'd actually save by doing it. sigh. Councils eh?
Who'd have em?

In my country, town ellected counsellors get a fixed stipend
from the gov't. They don't get overtime if they have
additional meetings. But I bet the game is to have as few
meetings as possible and yet justify the minimum requirement to
receive the stipend.

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Yeah, here in Canada we call it pop, Americans call it soda. Not sure other countries call it.

This is one of the more interesting regional words in the US. There are
plenty of Americans who call it pop. But US Southerners are likely to call it "Coke", which somehow became a catch-all word.

And then, somehow, the beverage makers refer to them as "soft drinks" or "fountain drinks" when they come up.

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additional meetings. But I bet the game is to have as few
meetings as possible and yet justify the minimum requirement to
receive the stipend.

That's actually a thing? Anywhere I've been, people seem to _love_ having
tons of meetings about all sorts of issues people care about, regardless of
how much anyone gets paid to be there.

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Adept wrote to Warpslide <=-

Yeah, here in Canada we call it pop, Americans call it soda. Not sure other countries call it.

This is one of the more interesting regional words in the US. There are plenty of Americans who call it pop. But US Southerners are likely to
call it "Coke", which somehow became a catch-all word.

In the South, I thought it was run together and pronounced "CoCola"

And then, somehow, the beverage makers refer to them as "soft drinks"
or "fountain drinks" when they come up.

I still prefer fountain diet coke, especially with those old-school chewable ice chunks. I didn't realize that many fast food places (especially Dairy Queen) will sell bags of their ice. I'm going to try them out for my next party.




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We live in a building, so we take our recycling down to the recycle
room
and just chuck the garbage bags down the chute. It's glorious! ;)

haha it's often the small things in life that can bring the most
pleasure! :D


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In my country, town ellected counsellors get a fixed stipend
from the gov't. They don't get overtime if they have
additional meetings. But I bet the game is to have as few
meetings as possible and yet justify the minimum requirement to
receive the stipend.

Interesting. In my last comment, I was thinking that hourly rate * hours
spent on meetings * number of people at those meetings would have been significant waste. But maybe that's the irony, waste time and money
talking about waste...

So would the councillors be the ones to do the day to day discussions of
what changes to make or would that be the general paid staff and the councillors just vote on the things put forward?

I mean, I'm sure the councillors come up with stuff to discuss too, but I
would have thought that would be things raised by their constituents..
and anything else like internal finance issues (such as saving money by collecting less frequently) would be raised internally?

No doubt different councils do things differently, and I have no idea how
mine work. Or should I say "operate"? Work implies they do some of that.
haha :)



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plenty of Americans who call it pop. But US Southerners are likely to
call it
"Coke", which somehow became a catch-all word.

That seems a weird one based on how common that brand is and how common
other drinks that they make are.

But this phenomenon has always fascinated me. It's like people who call
smart phone "iPhones" (which I always thought was ignorance of the
existance of other brands, but now I wonder), or photocopying "Xeroxing". Probably the most common one used across the planet is "Googling".

So how does a person who calls all soft drinks "coke" get themselves a
Sprite? Do they ask for the "green coke"? :) hehe


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On 12 Jul 2021, JoE DooM said the following...

But this phenomenon has always fascinated me. It's like people who call smart phone "iPhones" (which I always thought was ignorance of the existance of other brands, but now I wonder), or photocopying "Xeroxing".

I was confused a few weeks back when a former co-worker wanted me to help her with her "iPad". Her granddaughter was staying at her place for the day and she couldn't "Zoom" into her online classes.

I popped over on my lunch break to help out, she handed me a Samsung tablet (iPad) and couldn't find Zoom installed because they actually use Teams.

I joked with her afterwards (she's not great with technology) because to her all tablets are iPads and all video calls are Zoom. lol

Probably the most common one used across the planet is "Googling".

There's a lot of that in my circle. Here everyone calls tissues a Kleenex, you put a Band-Aid on a cut, all sticky notes are Post-Its and all lib balm is Chap Stick.


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Probably the most common one used across the planet is "Googling".

I was going to say, "how about 'kleenex'", but "googling" is probably more common, these days.

I'm not really sure what to do about "podcast", since I still have a hard
time saying, "netcast".

But I do try to say, "sticky notes" instead of "Post-Its".

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Chiming in from the other part of the world, so anyway, for what it's worth:

Here in UA, we do (correctly) refer to all Cola-flavored soft drinks as "cola", regardless of the manufacturer. All the other carbonated beverages are "water with gas". Also, nobody in their right mind would call a non-Apple smartphone "an iPhone".

But this phenomenon has always fascinated me. It's like people who call smart phone "iPhones" (which I always thought was ignorance of the existance of other brands, but now I wonder), or photocopying "Xeroxing". Probably the most common one used across the planet is "Googling".

As for the "brand-damaging" words, though, we do use "Xerox" and "Photoshop" as verbs; you might also hear from everyone and their mother about "Word documents" (as if any other word processing software never existed); or "Is Linux good _Windows_?" (meaning, obviously, a "good _operating_ _system_).

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I joked with her afterwards (she's not great with technology) because
to her all tablets are iPads and all video calls are Zoom. lol

haha that's funny. But very common. :)

I've always thought that most salespeople in shops wouldn't know to ask.
If someone comes in asking for an iPad, they'll get sold an iPad. The salespeople are often kids and wouldn't even think that someone might not
want the iPad brand.

There's a lot of that in my circle. Here everyone calls tissues a
Kleenex, you put a Band-Aid on a cut, all sticky notes are Post-Its
and all lib balm is Chap Stick.

It's really interesting isn't it? One product becomes so prevalent in the culture that it becomes the default.

I'm sure that's a big part of why certain products sell more.


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I'm not really sure what to do about "podcast", since I still have a
hard
time saying, "netcast".

I've never thought about the term podcast and where it came from or what
it even means. Is that a product?

I've seen people who make youtube videos and call them podcasts.
Sometimes they are just recorded audio with a static picture, so maybe
they're right.. I just don't know what defines it.

Netcast does sound like a better term, but I can't say I've heard it
before.

But I do try to say, "sticky notes" instead of "Post-Its".

Yeah, that's a common one.


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Hi Ruslan, I don't think I've had the pleasure, so nice to meet you. :)

Here in UA, we do (correctly) refer to all Cola-flavored soft drinks
as "cola", regardless of the manufacturer. All the other carbonated beverages are "water with gas". Also, nobody in their right mind would
call a non-Apple smartphone "an iPhone".

haha water with gas. That's all coca-cola (company) drinks to me.. so much
gas! I switched to Pepsi a few years ago because of that.. less gas in
pepsi. :)

and it could be argued that most people aren't in their right minds. :)

As for the "brand-damaging" words, though, we do use "Xerox" and
"Photoshop" as verbs; you might also hear from everyone and their
mother about "Word documents" (as if any other word processing
software never existed); or "Is Linux good _Windows_?" (meaning,
obviously, a "good _operating_ _system_).

Ah of course, I forgot about the good old Photoshopping.. haha Maybe that
rolls of the tongue better than Deluxe Painting..

Down here, most people will ask for Word documents, but then they only
want documents in Word format because then they don't have to think.

I've not heard the Windows used as an operating system here.

Also made me think of calling the computer a "hard drive". haha that's
always amused me. Especially when I worked in a hardware store when I was young. Someone would ask for a hard drive and we'd give them one and
they'd stand there confused.



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Hi Ruslan, I don't think I've had the pleasure, so nice to meet you. :)

The pleasure is mine :) I think there was a brief announcement about new people added to the nodelist recently, but perhaps that was too brief to get noticed by a large audience :-P

Also, I don't think FTNs in general (and fsxNet specifically) include any prompt for a particular person to contact another particular person in a similar fashion to social media services, other than throwing them somewhere in the middle of a discussion. I mean, there is a node application form here (in the infopack), there are occasionally a few forms on a few BBS'es that kinda-sorta profile you according to your name, location, blood type, whatever - but that's more often than not for the SysOp (RC, ZC) to know, not for the general public.

So here is my (somewhat belated) attempt at proper self-introduction.

Name..............: Ruslan Ivanyuk

City / Country....: Askania-Nova, Ukraine (46.451944, 33.880833)

Software..........: husky + binkp

Operating System..: Alternating between W10/x64 and Manjaro Linux

Personal interests: walking, cycling, sightseeing, reading,
(to name a few) learning languages, listening to music,
playing board games and tabletop RPGs,
researching hobbyist networks (FTN, Fediverse)
and content presentation technologies
(Gopher, Gemini), general chatting

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I've never thought about the term podcast and where it came from or what it even means. Is that a product?

iPod. Podcast.

Netcast does sound like a better term, but I can't say I've heard it before.

It was a Leo LaPorte / TWiT Network thing because of not wanting to be referencing an Apple product when that's not what they were producing.

Not that I've not listened to TWIT Network things in years at this point, but
I still like the concept, and "netcast" is a word that makes sense.

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"Photoshop" as verbs; you might also hear from everyone and their mother about "Word documents" (as if any other word processing software never

I've tended to assume that "Word documents" are about the format, rather than the software.

E.g., I've made plenty of Word documents with Libreoffice.

But I could imagine a less-technical person using it more broadly. I'd
probably be entertained hearing it, though.

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Re: Re: New recycling bins
By: Adept to Ruslan Ivanyuk on Tue Jul 13 2021 04:09 am

"Photoshop" as verbs; you might also hear from everyone and their mothe about "Word documents" (as if any other word processing software never

I've tended to assume that "Word documents" are about the format, rather tha the software.

E.g., I've made plenty of Word documents with Libreoffice.

But I could imagine a less-technical person using it more broadly. I'd probably be entertained hearing it, though.

I despise it when people start talking about Word documents when dealing with formats that are not specific to Microsoft Word (such as plain text files).

I dislike it when they call *.doc and *.docx "Word Documents" - because they have a specific name - but at least that denomination makes more sense, since Word is the reference implementation for those formats.

I am in a personal crusade against generalized brands. I am the weird guy who walks into the office supply store and purchases "technical pen" instead of a "Rotring". Even when the technical pen I end up purchasing is actually a Rotring.

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Hello JoE DooM!

** On Monday 12.07.21 - 07:09, JoE DooM wrote to Ogg:

Interesting. In my last comment, I was thinking that
hourly rate * hours spent on meetings * number of people
at those meetings would have been significant waste. But
maybe that's the irony, waste time and money talking about
waste...

Yep. Could be.

So would the councillors be the ones to do the day to day
discussions of what changes to make or would that be the
general paid staff and the councillors just vote on the
things put forward?

I doubt that they would allow "overtime" to be conducted in
meetings with salaried staff. It is better or them to cut a
meeting short at 5pm and resume later anyway.. it's all about
delays and more delays anyway. ;)


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I am in a personal crusade against generalized brands. I am the weird
guy who walks into the office supply store and purchases "technical pen" instead of a "Rotring". Even when the technical pen I end up purchasing
is actually a Rotring.

Oh, I'm irritating like that, too. I talk about needing an "adhesive
bandage", and try to avoid brand names as verbs whenever I can.

Though I do try to limit how pedantic I get. It's a struggle, though.

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I've tended to assume that "Word documents" are about the format, rather than
the software.

The format in question would be .doc, and even that would not solve a problem; namely, because MS Word '97-2003 .doc are more or less one thing, while MS Word 6.0/95 .doc are a different beast with backwards incompatibility and things like that (or so I heard).

As if this were not enough, current (circa 2007 - nowadays) MS Open XML Documents (.docx) are also referred to as "Word documents", which doesn't help settle this confusion in the slightest.

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Ogg wrote to JoE DooM <=-

I doubt that they would allow "overtime" to be conducted in
meetings with salaried staff. It is better or them to cut a
meeting short at 5pm and resume later anyway.. it's all about
delays and more delays anyway. ;)

Reminds me of the local government IT division I ran. All union technicians, vigorous refusal of tasks based on 20+ year old job descriptions, and as
they built up a backlog of work (and were forbidden from going over 40 hours
a week), the boss complaining to me that they weren't motivated to work
harder and that the parking lot was empty at 5.

I've never seen a group of people work so hard at not working.


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Adept wrote to Arelor <=-

Oh, I'm irritating like that, too. I talk about needing an "adhesive bandage", and try to avoid brand names as verbs whenever I can.

Though I do try to limit how pedantic I get. It's a struggle, though.

My pedantic anti-trademark efforts are limited to the use of cotton swabs. There may be other areas of pedantry, however.


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Sorry for the late reply, I've been offline for a few days and I'm quite behind.

The pleasure is mine :) I think there was a brief announcement about
new people added to the nodelist recently, but perhaps that was too
brief to get noticed by a large audience :-P

It's not really a large audience. :) haha But it is dedicated. :)

more often than not for the SysOp (RC, ZC) to know, not for the
general public.

That's true, and you raise a good point. Of course, some people may not
wish to be so public about their lives, but I'm sure many won't mind.

playing board games and tabletop RPGs,

Ah excellent. What do you play?

I haven't played any games for a long time, but love board games, RPG,
and wargames.

For RPGs, D&D is the old warhorse, but I got tired of it so pulled out of
the games I was playing a couple of years ago. But I've played most RPGs.
I really want to run a Call of Cthulhu game, as well as Rifts and
Palladium, but not enough people who are interested in playing games
other than D&D and Pathfinder around here. At least not regularly.

I found myself moving more into wargames because "pickup games" are much
easier to organise. :)

researching hobbyist networks (FTN, Fediverse)

Ah very cool. I played around with Friendica a few years back, and one of
my friends in Australia has dumped twitter for Mastadon recently. He and
I were both messing around with Friendica at the time.

btw - I am from Wellington in New Zealand. :)


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iPod. Podcast.

ah! ding!

haha never thought about that.

It was a Leo LaPorte / TWiT Network thing because of not wanting to be referencing an Apple product when that's not what they were producing.
Not that I've not listened to TWIT Network things in years at this
point, but
I still like the concept, and "netcast" is a word that makes sense.

Yeah it does. I don't know much about twit except its existence and I
guess it stands for this week in tech? But don't follow it at all.

But get people to change their minds or rename something. haha 6 months
in real time is like 20 years in internet time. "podcast" from that point
of view is practically part of the bedrock. :)



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I've tended to assume that "Word documents" are about the format,
rather than
the software.

An interesting observation. But I respond that Word is a format too. :)
Or at least how I use the term "format". IT people I talk to have always referred to the WOrd DOC format, Wordperfect format, etc.

But your comment also makes sense when we think that they are "word
processing" software, so "word" is quicker.

Microsoft were always very clever about their use of generic terms for products.

Like "windows". Well every single GUI operating system had windows. It's
just that one was called Windows. haha very unoriginal, but very clever..
or maybe just malicious. :)



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Or at least how I use the term "format". IT people I talk to have always referred to the WOrd DOC format, Wordperfect format, etc.

Yeah, I probably am more likely to say, "sending it as a doc or docx is what they want".

Since there's more than one document type to come out of Word anyway. And
even "doc or docx" is more than two formats, technically.

But your comment also makes sense when we think that they are "word processing" software, so "word" is quicker.

I suppose that does make sense, though I _did_ capitalize "Word". Which I'm _totally_ sure someone would understand if I said it out loud.

Microsoft were always very clever about their use of generic terms for products.

Yeah. Though perhaps it really was, "What's a title that would immediately
tell you what the software is, but is short?".

On the other hand, Google Docs, LibreOffice Writer, and probably many others are no more original.

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Hi, JoE DooM!

Sorry for the late reply, I've been offline for a few days and I'm quite behind.

That's understandable with FTN. Instant replies are usually not expected, so, if our emergency departments were on here, we'd be so screwed! :)

Ah excellent. What do you play?

Pathfinder 1E (D&D 3.5/OSR multiverse is the best thing made possible with OGL). Also, Munchkin, Dixit, Apples to Apples, Smallworld -- things of that nature.

<snip> one of
my friends in Australia has dumped twitter for Mastadon recently. He and I were both messing around with Friendica at the time.

Friendica is lovely. I once thought about setting up my own instance (many open servers tend to create a more or less "safe space" for newcomers by trimming off some potentially harmful content -- which I myself would have nothing against, but most people in this day and age are a bit more sensitive to that, so it's nice of the admins to cater to those individuals).

btw - I am from Wellington in New Zealand. :)

Oh, cool! Greetings to Te Whanganui-a-Tara from a steppe nature reserve in Southern Ukraine :) Be cool, stay safe, and all the best wishes to you :)

Ruslan Ivanyuk

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Re: A need for fsx_intros or something?
By: Ruslan Ivanyuk to JoE DooM on Sat Aug 07 2021 01:44 am

Pathfinder 1E (D&D 3.5/OSR multiverse is the best thing made possible with OGL). Also, Munchkin, Dixit, Apples to Apples, Smallworld -- things of that nature.

Interesting to note that you play a heavy RPG and then prefer light board games.

I am the other way around myself.

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Sorry for the late reply, I've been offline for a few days and

I'm quite

behind.

That's understandable with FTN. Instant replies are usually not
expected, so, if our emergency departments were on here, we'd be so
screwed! :)

Well, so much for being a few days behind.. I've been away for a few
months. :/ Hope you'll forgive me for appearing rude.

It's odd that I got out of the habit of logging in for a couple of weeks,
and the longer you drop off your habits, the harder it is to pick them up.

I even put an alarm in my calendar so that I would set aside some time on Saturday mornings at 9:30am to log in. And the very first time the alarm
rang I wasn't home. Same for the next weekend. That was over a month ago
now. haha

Fingers crossed I'll log back in again this year.

But back to our conversation Ruslan... :)

Pathfinder 1E (D&D 3.5/OSR multiverse is the best thing made possible
with OGL). Also, Munchkin, Dixit, Apples to Apples, Smallworld --
things of that nature.

Cool. I have got out of playing D&D and derivatives. Too many rules for
me in my old age. :) I really want to run a Call of Cthulhu group. I ran
a one-on-one for a friend of mine who's on the other side of the country
and that was a lot of fun, but most people I know love the combat
oriented games and don't like the thinking games.

I also want to run Rifts and Palladium Fantasy because I love the crazy unbalanced worlds. :)

Munchkin is awesome. Hm, you're making me want to set up a gaming group
again. Now it's summer here, I might be able to bribe some people by
feeding them with a BBQ lunch. :)

Oh, cool! Greetings to Te Whanganui-a-Tara from a steppe nature
reserve in Southern Ukraine :) Be cool, stay safe, and all the best
wishes to you :)

A steppe nature reserve sounds awesome.
Thank you and same to you.




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Re: A need for fsx_intros or something?
By: JoE DooM to Ruslan Ivanyuk on Tue Nov 02 2021 08:31 pm

Cool. I have got out of playing D&D and derivatives. Too many rules for
me in my old age. :) I really want to run a Call of Cthulhu group. I ran
a one-on-one for a friend of mine who's on the other side of the country
and that was a lot of fun, but most people I know love the combat
oriented games and don't like the thinking games.

I also want to run Rifts and Palladium Fantasy because I love the crazy unbalanced worlds. :)

Munchkin is awesome. Hm, you're making me want to set up a gaming group again. Now it's summer here, I might be able to bribe some people by
feeding them with a BBQ lunch. :)

D&D only started getting bulky around 3rd edition. I am not a great fan of the new editions - I can have fun with them, but I prefer the old stuff if available. D&D B/X is very easy to run, on the other hand. Still I think there are better systems out there. Old versions od D&D are only convenient because there is a lot of material out there you can recycle for those who are too young to know the old modules.

Munchkin is fine as a drunktard game. As a wits game for euromgamers who have a piece of ice for a heart (ie me) it falls short because optimal play leads for overly long games in which nothing of notice happens until the end. That said, if you have bourbon enough you can make it work.


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