Testing things out. ;)

Shawn


--- Talisman v0.20-dev (Windows/x86)
* Origin: Tiny's BBS II - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (21:1/222)

On 25 Apr 2021 at 06:36a, Tiny pondered and said...

@TZUTC: -0500
@CHRS: CP437 2
@MSGID: 21:1/222 60854623
@TID: Postie 0.5
@PATH: 1/222 100
Testing things out. ;)

Shawn

--- Talisman v0.20-dev (Windows/x86)
* Origin: Tiny's BBS II - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (21:1/222)

looks good ;-)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

@TZUTC: -0500
@CHRS: CP437 2
@MSGID: 21:1/222 60854623
@TID: Postie 0.5
@PATH: 1/222 100
Testing things out. ;)

looks good ;-)

Thank-you sir! This setup is all modern... nothing from the 90's.
Scared for sure. LOL

Shawn

--- Talisman v0.20-dev (Windows/x86)
* Origin: Tiny's BBS II - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (21:1/222)

Thank-you sir! This setup is all modern... nothing from the 90's.
Scared for sure. LOL

haha. So now you're all set up, I think I might start a working on a new
BBS package :P


Andrew

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--- Talisman v0.20-dev (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: HappyLand v2.0 - telnet://happylandbbs.com:11892/ (21:1/182)

apam wrote to Tiny <=-

haha. So now you're all set up, I think I might start a working on a
new BBS package :P

Laugh! That wouldn't be the first time you've done that to me. hahahaha
I know your kidding this time as there are still lots of things you can
do with talisman before you get bored. :)

Shawn

... Don't open the darkroom door; it lets all the dark out.

--- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
* Origin: Tiny's BBS - telnet://tinysbbs.com:3023 (21:1/130)

Laugh! That wouldn't be the first time you've done that to me.
hahahaha
I know your kidding this time as there are still lots of things you
can
do with talisman before you get bored. :)

Yep, Some ideas:

* Automated message posting. Yay SPAM!
* QWK networking
* Replacement for Binkd

Andrew

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--- Talisman v0.20-dev (Linux/x86_64)
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apam wrote to Tiny <=-

Yep, Some ideas:
* Automated message posting. Yay SPAM!
* QWK networking
* Replacement for Binkd

* Bluewave support PLEASE. :) I hate QWK for offline mail. Please?
Please? I'll paypal you enough for a case of beer. so you are motived
while you do it. LOL

Shawn

... QWK? I don't need no stinkin' QWK packet!

--- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
* Origin: Tiny's BBS - telnet://tinysbbs.com:3023 (21:1/130)

*** Quoting Tiny from a message to apam ***

* Automated message posting. Yay SPAM!
* QWK networking

* Bluewave support PLEASE. :) I hate QWK for offline mail. Please? Please? I'll paypal you enough for a case of beer. so you are
motived while you do it. LOL

That could be a good clip for the next episode of the BBS documentory:

Andrew drunk as a skunk coding Bluewave support into Talisam. ;)


Jay

... Da trouble wit computers is, dey got no sense of humor

--- Telegard v3.09.g2-sp4/mL
* Origin: Northern Realms | 289-424-5180 | bbs.nrbbs.net (21:3/110)

On 27 Apr 2021, Warpslide said the following...

* Bluewave support PLEASE. :) I hate QWK for offline mail. Please? Please? I'll paypal you enough for a case of beer. so you are motived while you do it. LOL

Andrew drunk as a skunk coding Bluewave support into Talisam. ;)

would be an interesting watch ;)

what's special about Bluewave?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/04/20 (Windows/32)
* Origin: cold fusion - cfbbs.net - grand rapids, mi (21:1/616)

Am 27.04.21 schrieb Tiny@21:1/130 in FSX_GEN:

Hallo Tiny,

* Bluewave support PLEASE. :) I hate QWK for offline mail. Please?
Please? I'll paypal you enough for a case of beer. so you are motived while you do it. LOL

Just out of curiousity: Have you looked at OpenXP? It's not really an
offline reader, but a point software - so it works a little bit different, but is a very comfortable way of reading/writing mails in FidoNet-like networks (and also supports NNTP and Internet E-Mail, but I'm not using
this part).

Regards,
Anna

--- OpenXP 5.0.49
* Origin: Imzadi Box Point (21:3/127.1)

Tiny wrote to apam <=-

* Bluewave support PLEASE. :) I hate QWK for offline mail. Please? Please? I'll paypal you enough for a case of beer. so you are motived while you do it. LOL

Which BlueWave offline reader do you use? The bottom of your message
says EzyBlueWave v3.00 but I haven't found that as a downloadable
option - haven't looked that hard, I must admit, but still ... ??

Thanks!

... The irony of life is that no one gets out alive...
--- MultiMail/Linux v0.49
* Origin: realitycheckBBS.org -- information is power. (21:4/122)

Hello acn!

** On Tuesday 27.04.21 - 15:21, acn wrote to Tiny:

Am 27.04.21 schrieb Tiny@21:1/130 in FSX_GEN:

* Bluewave support PLEASE. :) I hate QWK for offline mail.
Please? Please? I'll paypal you enough for a case of
beer. so you are motived while you do it. LOL

Just out of curiousity: Have you looked at OpenXP? It's not
really an offline reader, but a point software - so it works
a little bit different, but is a very comfortable way of
reading/writing mails in FidoNet-like networks (and also
supports NNTP and Internet E-Mail, but I'm not using this
part).

-+- OpenXP 5.0.49
+ Origin: Imzadi Box Point (21:3/127.1)

I'll 2nd that opinion!

OpenXp is a fine piece of work. I created a modest searchable
online-help site (about 80% completed) here:

https://openxp.kolico.ca

In particular, take a look at the screenshots to see what it's
like.


--- OpenXP 5.0.49
* Origin: (} Pointy McPointFace (21:4/106.21)

Re: Re: Testing my new node number
By: fusion to Warpslide on Tue Apr 27 2021 09:28 am

what's special about Bluewave?

It supports netmail natively. You can do a netmail reply to an echomail, you have an addressbook of FTN addresses.

Bluewave is a good format but if you want it you have to know where to get it.

The great think about QWK is that you can get it just about anywhere offline mail is available.

Some old QWK implementations are a bit limited as far as what they can do. Synchronet has an updated implementation. You can do email, netmail (QWK or FTN), and echomail on a Synchronet BBS with an up to date mail reader like MultiMail.

Ttyl :-),
Al

... Do you dream about the moonlight on the Wabash?
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106.1)

Re: Re: Testing my new node number
By: Elf to Tiny on Tue Apr 27 2021 12:27 pm

Which BlueWave offline reader do you use? The bottom of your message
says EzyBlueWave v3.00 but I haven't found that as a downloadable
option - haven't looked that hard, I must admit, but still ... ??

EzyBlueWave is a blue wave door for Ezycom BBS. The blue wave readers can be found around and about. They go by these filenames..

bw23_386.zip <- 386 or better
bw23_dos.zip <- for the DOS
bw23_os2.zip <- for OS/2

There are all kinds of doors also for different BBS types.

Those are the latest releases from '96 and they need Y2K fixes to be useable.

Bw_Y2K2.Zip <- Y2K fixes for readers and doors

I have those files here on the BBS and they can be found on the net with a little google-fu.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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--- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
* Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106.1)

* Bluewave support PLEASE. :) I hate QWK for offline mail. Please?
Please? I'll paypal you enough for a case of beer. so you are
motived while you do it. LOL

LOL. I forgot to add that to the list. I had been thinking about it for a
while trying to decide if I would build it in or make it a door.

My main concern is the license.. I don't know much about license
compatability as I am not a lawyer. I'm guessing it's ok, as it seems
they just don't want you to call your program "BlueWave" I guess if it's incompatible, and they appear to get unhappy, I can always remove it
again. No one got unhappy with Magicka, but that was BSD not GPL.. but I
am sure it will be OK.

So I started adding it. Mostly just following what I did in Magicka...
anyway it won't be ready for a while. I'm going to take things a bit
slower over the coming month or so, as I have a bit on.

Andrew

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--- Talisman v0.20-dev (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: HappyLand v2.0 - telnet://happylandbbs.com:11892/ (21:1/182)

Warpslide wrote to Tiny <=-

That could be a good clip for the next episode of the BBS documentory: Andrew drunk as a skunk coding Bluewave support into Talisam. ;)

I'm sure it would be entertaining if nothing else. :)

Shawn

... I'm FLYING, I'm FLYING! >>THUD<<

--- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
* Origin: Tiny's BBS - telnet://tinysbbs.com:3023 (21:1/130)

acn wrote to Tiny <=-

Just out of curiousity: Have you looked at OpenXP? It's not really an

I have. It's not what I'm looking for. I use a few different computers for BBS mail and as such I just find offline to be easier for the way I work.

FidoNet-like networks (and also supports NNTP and Internet E-Mail, but
I'm not using this part).

One of my computers is a chromebook and I've got a base linux install on it
for multimail and magiterm, but it would take too much to try to get such
a complex program as openxp running.

Shawn

... Let no good deed go unpunished.

--- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
* Origin: Tiny's BBS - telnet://tinysbbs.com:3023 (21:1/130)

Elf wrote to Tiny <=-

Which BlueWave offline reader do you use? The bottom of your message
says EzyBlueWave v3.00 but I haven't found that as a downloadable
option - haven't looked that hard, I must admit, but still ... ??

I use multimail. EzyBluewave is the built in bluewave support in Ezycom
BBS.

Shawn

... Money does bring happiness. Send some and watch me smile.

--- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
* Origin: Tiny's BBS - telnet://tinysbbs.com:3023 (21:1/130)

apam wrote to Tiny <=-

they just don't want you to call your program "BlueWave" I guess if
it's incompatible, and they appear to get unhappy, I can always remove
it again. No one got unhappy with Magicka, but that was BSD not GPL..
but I am sure it will be OK.

There is no one left who cares. :)

So I started adding it. Mostly just following what I did in Magicka... anyway it won't be ready for a while. I'm going to take things a bit slower over the coming month or so, as I have a bit on.

No rush man. I have endless patience for this stuff. RL is way more important. :)

Shawn

... An error doesn't become a mistake until you refuse to cor

--- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
* Origin: Tiny's BBS - telnet://tinysbbs.com:3023 (21:1/130)

BY: apam(21:1/182)


|11a|09> |10compatability as I am not a lawyer. I'm guessing it's ok, as it seems|07
|11a|09> |10they just don't want you to call your program "BlueWave" I guess if it's|07
|11a|09> |10incompatible, and they appear to get unhappy, I can always remove it|07
I dont think the author of the format is going to care after 25 plus years.


--- WWIV 5.7.1.3510
* Origin: inland utopia * socal usa * iutopia.mooo.com:2023 (21:4/108)

Tiny wrote to Elf <=-

I use multimail. EzyBluewave is the built in bluewave support in
Ezycom BBS.

Ah, okay. Thanks!

... Someone superglued all my bytes onto my hard drive.
___ MultiMail/Linux v0.52

--- Mystic BBS/QWK v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Hive32 (21:4/129)

On 28 Apr 2021, Utopian Galt said the following...

compatability as I am not a lawyer. I'm guessing it's ok, as it seems they just don't want you to call your program "BlueWave" I guess if it' incompatible, and they appear to get unhappy, I can always remove it

I dont think the author of the format is going to care after 25 plus years.

reverse engineering to create compatible products is completely legal.

apparently they just reiterated this recently with google's implementation of java in a google vs oracle suit.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/04/20 (Windows/32)
* Origin: cold fusion - cfbbs.net - grand rapids, mi (21:1/616)

Am 28.04.21 schrieb Tiny@21:1/130 in FSX_GEN:

Hallo Tiny,

Just out of curiousity: Have you looked at OpenXP? It's not really an

I have. It's not what I'm looking for. I use a few different computers
for BBS mail and as such I just find offline to be easier for the way I work.

Okay :)
Although I have to say that I'm also using OpenXP from different
computers, because I've installed it on one of my servers and I always use
it via SSH.

One of my computers is a chromebook and I've got a base linux install on it for multimail and magiterm, but it would take too much to try to get such
a complex program as openxp running.

I'm also unsure if OpenXP would run on a Chromebook in the first place as
I think it only runs on x86/amd64 computers. (And I think Chromebooks are mostly ARM machines?)

Regards,
Anna

--- OpenXP 5.0.49
* Origin: Imzadi Box Point (21:3/127.1)

they just don't want you to call your program "BlueWave" I guess if it's

Hmm so, AzureOscillation? :)

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

acn wrote to Tiny <=-

Although I have to say that I'm also using OpenXP from different computers, because I've installed it on one of my servers and I always
use it via SSH.

When I'm in the woods I have limited access to bandwith, so offline mail works better for me.

I'm also unsure if OpenXP would run on a Chromebook in the first place
as I think it only runs on x86/amd64 computers. (And I think
Chromebooks are mostly ARM machines?)

Mine is an intel celeron something or other. It works just enough so I can
do offline mail and browse the web. :)

Shawn

... Living life on the edge of insanity... [NUDGE]

--- EzyBlueWave V3.00 01FB001F
* Origin: Tiny's BBS - telnet://tinysbbs.com:3023 (21:1/130)

Am 29.04.21 schrieb Tiny@21:1/130 in FSX_GEN:

Hallo Tiny,

Although I have to say that I'm also using OpenXP from different
computers, because I've installed it on one of my servers and I always ac>> use it via SSH.

When I'm in the woods I have limited access to bandwith, so offline mail works better for me.

Okay, that's a valid point :)

Regards,
Anna

--- OpenXP 5.0.49
* Origin: Imzadi Box Point (21:3/127.1)

apam wrote (2021-04-26):

Thank-you sir! This setup is all modern... nothing from the 90's.
Scared for sure. LOL

haha. So now you're all set up, I think I might start a working on a new BBS package :P

You could write on for DOS, RiscOS or Amiga :-P

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* Origin: . (21:3/102)

You could write on for DOS, RiscOS or Amiga :-P

Actually thought about having a go at writing a RiscOS BBS a while back,
given that it runs on the PI.

Andrew

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--- Talisman v0.20-dev (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: HappyLand v2.0 - telnet://happylandbbs.com:11892/ (21:1/182)

You could write on for DOS, RiscOS or Amiga :-P

Or ProDOS or GS/OS :P


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

Spectre wrote (2021-04-30):

You could write on for DOS, RiscOS or Amiga :-P

Or ProDOS or GS/OS :P

Newton OS!

---
* Origin: . (21:3/102)

Am 30.04.21 schrieb apam@21:1/182 in FSX_GEN:

Hallo apam,

You could write on for DOS, RiscOS or Amiga :-P

Actually thought about having a go at writing a RiscOS BBS a while back, given that it runs on the PI.

CP/M? :)

But a FTN point program or at least an offline reader on CP/M would be
enough for me :)

Regards,
Anna

--- OpenXP 5.0.49
* Origin: Imzadi Box Point (21:3/127.1)

CP/M? :)

Nearly enough to break out the z80 card for CloneE.. IIe Clone...never done much with CP/M to be honest though.

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: We know where you live, we're coming round to get you (21:3/101)

Am 02.05.21 schrieb Spectre@21:3/101 in FSX_GEN:

Hallo Spectre,

CP/M? :)

Nearly enough to break out the z80 card for CloneE.. IIe Clone...never
done much with CP/M to be honest though.

It's a nice small operating system :)
I've built two CP/M machines in the last years which came as kits:
First an RC2014, based on a Z80 and able to use add-on cards made for the system, so it has eg. a sound card, an RTC, a compact flash "hard disk",
more RAM/ROM and a terminal card.
The second is a SC126, based on a Z180 and featuring a compatible bus, so
it also has sound and a terminal card - and an IDE controller with a hard disk to boot CP/M 3 from.

I'm using eg. WordStar and dBase on it and also have WiFi modems, so I can dial into BBSes using Kermit or QTERM.

So a "modern" offline reader or point program would be great :)

Regards,
Anna

--- OpenXP 5.0.49
* Origin: Imzadi Box Point (21:3/127.1)

CP/M? :)

I'd love to do one for CP/M, but I suspect that would be beyond my
ability.

Andrew
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--- Talisman v0.20-dev (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: HappyLand v2.0 - telnet://happylandbbs.com:11892/ (21:1/182)

Am 03.05.21 schrieb apam@21:1/182 in FSX_GEN:

Hallo apam,

CP/M? :)

I'd love to do one for CP/M, but I suspect that would be beyond my
ability.

That's also my problem :)

But just FYI: Using z88dk, it's possible to do cross-developing for CP/M
in C.
And there's also sth. like Hi-Tech C which is C on CP/M.
For communicating with the serial port, eg. the CP/M 3 routines can be
used to send/receive bytes. That's quite simple (just not the fastest) and available on most systems that use CP/M 3 (so it's hardware-independant).

Regards,
Anna (who has ported QTERM to CP/M 3 and RC2014 with SIO/2)

--- OpenXP 5.0.49
* Origin: Imzadi Box Point (21:3/127.1)

But just FYI: Using z88dk, it's possible to do cross-developing for
CP/M in C.

Yep I've used z88dk for a few little programs, wrote a couple of games
for my rc2014 based system :)

And there's also sth. like Hi-Tech C which is C on CP/M.
For communicating with the serial port, eg. the CP/M 3 routines can be
used to send/receive bytes. That's quite simple (just not the fastest)
and
available on most systems that use CP/M 3 (so it's
hardware-independant).

Hmm, I'll have to look at that. I think the hard part for me would be communicating with the serial port.

I don't have CP/M 3 though, I have Steves Z180 machine (I forget the SC
number) maybe that would run it? It has both RomWBW and SCM but I don't
know anything about CP/M 3.

Andrew

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--- Talisman v0.20-dev (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: HappyLand v2.0 - telnet://happylandbbs.com:11892/ (21:1/182)

Am 04.05.21 schrieb apam@21:1/182 in FSX_GEN:

Hallo apam,

Yep I've used z88dk for a few little programs, wrote a couple of games
for my rc2014 based system :)

Ah yes, now I remember :)
I've even added Pac to my VT100 games repository (https://git.imzadi.de/acn/vt100-games)

Hmm, I'll have to look at that. I think the hard part for me would be communicating with the serial port.

That's always the problem in CP/M...

I don't have CP/M 3 though, I have Steves Z180 machine (I forget the SC number) maybe that would run it? It has both RomWBW and SCM but I don't
know anything about CP/M 3.

Do you mean a SC126, the "big" Z180 machine?
I also have one of these.
In the RomWBW repository, CP/M 3 is available and I've created an installation of that on my RomWBW systems.

If you prefer a CP/M 2 and CP/M 3 compatible solution that instead depends
on RomWBW (I guess), you could use the HBIOS serial functions.
In this case, the program would work on all RomWBW based systems, you just need to know the HBIOS device number for the desired serial port.
(in CP/M 3, the "modem" is usually the virtual device AUX: which can be mapped to the desired serial port using eg. DEVICE AUX:=COM2:).

Regards,
Anna

--- OpenXP 5.0.49
* Origin: Imzadi Box Point (21:3/127.1)

On 25 Apr 2021, Tiny said the following...

Testing things out. ;)

--- Talisman v0.20-dev (Windows/x86)
* Origin: Tiny's BBS II - tinysbbs.com:4323/ssh:4322 (21:1/222)

Seems to work okay here!

Sincerely,
Jon Justvig

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2020/09/12 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Raiders Inc BBS -- vintagebbsing.com:1337 (21:1/154)