Hi fsxnet,

I've been seeing more and more communites on the web going back to offering some sort of NNTP / Newsserver - heck, even my own BBS has the ability to enable one - and it seems like a very interesting protocol, but I'm having a hard time finding a GUI based news-reader thats not "binary-centric", meaning specialized for finding files on Usenet, instead of reading news.

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that has NNTP as an addon for a mail client, and would like something standalone.

Thanks,
tonic

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Hello tonic!

** On Sunday 11.04.21 - 16:21, tonic wrote to All:

I'm having a hard time finding a GUI based news-reader thats
not "binary-centric", meaning specialized for finding files
on Usenet, instead of reading news.

Isn't what you make it? Meaning.. if you avoid the binary areas
then it will NOT be "binary-centric"! :D

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux?
I'm not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other
client that has NNTP as an addon for a mail client, and
would like something standalone.

I have this one installed when I feel like having a little
variety from the usual Thunderbird that I use:

https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/

It does a pretty good job in the quoting department and uses the
sender's initials.

BTW, the one in Thunderbird is built-in, and not an addon AFAIK.


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Re: NNTP / Newsreader Reccomendations
By: tonic to All on Sun Apr 11 2021 04:21 pm

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that has NNTP as an addon for a mail client, and would like something standalone.

I usually use tin if I read with a news server. Tin is a console app but I suppose it would run fine from the desktop also. I also use pan at times. Pan is a GUI app and works quite well in my experience.

I use both of those on linux but I'm not sure if those apps are available on windows or not.. probably.. they are both open source.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 11 Apr 2021, Ogg said the following...

BTW, the one in Thunderbird is built-in, and not an addon AFAIK.

and really quite nice imo. to be honest, news readers and email clients have been so intertwined from the beginning.. it's kind of strange not to think of them as one and the same. different protocols getting you messages in essentially the same format, whether they're private or not.

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tonic wrote to All <=-

I've been seeing more and more communites on the web going back
to offering some sort of NNTP / Newsserver - heck, even my own
BBS has the ability to enable one - and it seems like a very
interesting protocol, but I'm having a hard time finding a GUI
based news-reader thats not "binary-centric", meaning specialized
for finding files on Usenet, instead of reading news.

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm
not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that
has NNTP as an addon for a mail client, and would like something standalone.

I recommend the 'Pan' newsreader. Definitely for Linux and I think it
may be available for Windows also.


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Al wrote:

Re: NNTP / Newsreader Reccomendations
By: tonic to All on Sun Apr 11 2021 04:21 pm

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that has NNTP as an
addon for a mail client, and would like something standalone.

I usually use tin if I read with a news server. Tin is a console app but I suppose it would run fine from the desktop also. I also use pan at times. Pan is a GUI app and works quite well in my experience.

I also use tin but it won't display ansi. At least I've not managed to get it to.

I use both of those on linux but I'm not sure if those apps are available on windows or not.. probably.. they are both open source.

Pan is available for both.
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Re: NNTP / Newsreader Reccomendations
By: tonic to All on Sun Apr 11 2021 04:21 pm

Hi fsxnet,

I've been seeing more and more communites on the web going back to offering some sort of NNTP / Newsserver - heck, even my own BBS has the ability to enable one - and it seems like a very interesting protocol, but I'm having a hard time finding a GUI based news-reader thats not "binary-centric", meanin specialized for finding files on Usenet, instead of reading news.

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm not interest in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that has NNTP as an addon for a m client, and would like something standalone.

Thanks,
tonic

For Linux and OpenBSD, rtin works fine. It gets some time to get used to it, but if you are doing BBS is not a shock. Pan works fine too, and it is graphical.

No idea about Windows.

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Quoting Tonic to All <=-

I've been seeing more and more communites on the web going back to offering some sort of NNTP / Newsserver - heck, even my own BBS has
the ability to enable one - and it seems like a very interesting protocol, but I'm having a hard time finding a GUI based news-reader thats not "binary-centric", meaning specialized for finding files on Usenet, instead of reading news.

Fort‚ Agent -> the best, but paid (has cracked on torrents)
MesNews -> very good and free
Xnews
XanaNews
OpenXP -> very good but text, non graphical

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Hello Mauro!

** On Monday 12.04.21 - 10:55, Mauro Veiga wrote to TONIC:

...having a hard time finding a GUI based news-reader
thats not "binary-centric", meaning specialized for finding files on
Usenet, instead of reading news.

OpenXP -> very good but text, non graphical

Not quite GUI, but very efficient using the keyboard!


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What are some good sources to get a newsgroup feed if I wanted to bring some newsgroups into my BBS?

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Re: Re: NNTP / Newsreader Rec
By: Morgul to Mauro Veiga on Mon Apr 12 2021 11:34 am

What are some good sources to get a newsgroup feed if I wanted to bring some newsgroups into my BBS?

Avon provides usenet as ftn to fsxnet members. It requires a bit of setup.

Have a look at fsx-use.txt in the infopack.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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*** Quoting Al from a message to Morgul ***

What are some good sources to get a newsgroup feed if I wanted to bring some newsgroups into my BBS?

Avon provides usenet as ftn to fsxnet members. It requires a bit of
setup.

Nick Andre also offers a usenet feed if you have a Fidonet connection.
Check out his ad in the OTHERNETS echo, here's a snippit of that post:

Looking for a reliable feed for Usenet groups in Fido *.PKT format? With full read/write access, Areafix automation and regular mail delivery?

Darkrealms has been providing Usenet feeds since 1994. In fact it is one of the reasons many systems in Fido and "Other nets" choose our system their Usenet needs. It is 100% automated - no need to bug a Sysop to
add or remove groups. Mail is polled several times a day with optional spam filtering. No complicated scripts, no headaches, it "just works".

Netmail me at 1:229/426 for more information.

Jay

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Quoting Morgul to Mauro Veiga <=-

BY: Mauro Veiga(21:1/181)

What are some good sources to get a newsgroup feed if I wanted to
bring some newsgroups into my BBS?

I use NEWS.AIOE.ORG server and like it.
Free access, fast, and few spam (when possible).


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Hello Mauro Veiga!

** On Monday 12.04.21 - 16:58, Mauro Veiga wrote to MORGUL:

What are some good sources to get a newsgroup feed if I wanted to
bring some newsgroups into my BBS?

I use NEWS.AIOE.ORG server and like it.
Free access, fast, and few spam (when possible).

+1 for AIOE. Apparently they block spam rigorously.

I use news.eternal-september.org


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Ponder,

I used to scrape 3 news servers at one point... the only one I seem to have still configured is eternal-september.org. But there we a few you definately scrape for reading if you weren't overly interested in posting or you didn't have many posts.

Spec


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Re: NNTP / Newsreader Rec
By: Ogg to Mauro Veiga on Mon Apr 12 2021 05:14 pm

Hello Mauro Veiga!

** On Monday 12.04.21 - 16:58, Mauro Veiga wrote to MORGUL:

What are some good sources to get a newsgroup feed if I wanted to
bring some newsgroups into my BBS?

I use NEWS.AIOE.ORG server and like it.
Free access, fast, and few spam (when possible).

+1 for AIOE. Apparently they block spam rigorously.

I use news.eternal-september.org

I don't know, maybe it is only the English spam they are good at blocking.

I remember reporting flooders in Spanish newsgroups and it was no use. Even if you forwarded translated copies of the flkooding messages (which took more work from me that was reasonable to pour in such thing) the issue would remain unresolved. Nowadays most Spanish groups I frequented 5 years ago lay in ruins, populated only by flooders and crossposters.

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Quoting Arelor to Ogg <=-

I remember reporting flooders in Spanish newsgroups and it was no use. Even if you forwarded translated copies of the flkooding messages
(which took more work from me that was reasonable to pour in such
thing) the issue would remain unresolved. Nowadays most Spanish groups
I frequented 5 years ago lay in ruins, populated only by flooders and crossposters.

Arelor, do you know the Fidonet Spanish areas? Have many friends
from Spain and South America writing there.


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Re: Re: NNTP / Newsreader Rec
By: Mauro Veiga to ARELOR on Tue Apr 13 2021 12:44 pm

Quoting Arelor to Ogg <=-

I remember reporting flooders in Spanish newsgroups and it was no use. Even if you forwarded translated copies of the flkooding messages (which took more work from me that was reasonable to pour in such thing) the issue would remain unresolved. Nowadays most Spanish groups I frequented 5 years ago lay in ruins, populated only by flooders and crossposters.

Arelor, do you know the Fidonet Spanish areas? Have many friends
from Spain and South America writing there.

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I didn't know there was such a thing.

In general, I prefer to stick to English speaking platforms nowadays. Spanish speaking platforms make me depresed.

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On 04-11-21 16:21, tonic wrote to All <=-

Hi fsxnet,

I've been seeing more and more communites on the web going back to offering some sort of NNTP / Newsserver - heck, even my own BBS has the

This sounds like a trend I could get into. I used to enjoy Usenet back in the day, and newsgroups are a good way to read messages. Certainly beats those awful web interfaces. :)

While I'm not keen on NNTP for BBSing (because of last pointer issues when using multiple clients), I see a lot of potential for specific situations, or even for feeding a BBS. :)


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On 04-11-21 16:26, Al wrote to tonic <=-

I usually use tin if I read with a news server. Tin is a console app
but I suppose it would run fine from the desktop also. I also use pan
at times. Pan is a GUI app and works quite well in my experience.

I often turned to tin, always liked it. Will have to check out Pan sometime. I have found Thunderbird's newsreader not bad too.


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I often turned to tin, always liked it. Will have to check out Pan sometime. I have found Thunderbird's newsreader not bad too.

I haven't played around much with readers, I stick to slrn, it has good killfile logic. Which is a problem I have with Thunderbird, Usenet is a swap without a quick and simple killfile. Don't get me wrong Thunderbird does have one just a pain to edit :)

RenMas

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Quoting Arelor to Mauro Veiga <=-

Arelor, do you know the Fidonet Spanish areas? Have many friends
from Spain and South America writing there.

In general, I prefer to stick to English speaking platforms nowadays. Spanish speaking platforms make me depresed.

Sorry, my mistake. I thought you would like know.


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Re: Re: NNTP / Newsreader Rec
By: Mauro Veiga to ARELOR on Wed Apr 14 2021 10:17 am

Quoting Arelor to Mauro Veiga <=-

Arelor, do you know the Fidonet Spanish areas? Have many friends
from Spain and South America writing there.

In general, I prefer to stick to English speaking platforms nowadays. Spanish speaking platforms make me depresed.

Sorry, my mistake. I thought you would like know.

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Donñ't worry, it is nice to know. Just don't expect me to pop up there :-P

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tonic wrote (2021-04-11):

Hi fsxnet,

I've been seeing more and more communites on the web going back to
offering some sort of NNTP / Newsserver - heck, even my own BBS has the ability to enable one - and it seems like a very interesting protocol,
but I'm having a hard time finding a GUI based news-reader thats not "binary-centric", meaning specialized for finding files on Usenet,
instead of reading news.

Does anyone have a good reccomendation for windows & linux? I'm not interested in trying Thunderbird, or any other client that has NNTP as an addon for a mail client, and would like something standalone.

Claws Mail. It is also a mail client, but you don't have to use the mail part.

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On 04-14-21 07:54, Renagademaster wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I often turned to tin, always liked it. Will have to check out Pan sometime. I have found Thunderbird's newsreader not bad too.

I haven't played around much with readers, I stick to slrn, it has good killfile logic. Which is a problem I have with Thunderbird, Usenet is a swap without a quick and simple killfile. Don't get me wrong
Thunderbird does have one just a pain to edit :)

Good point, an easy to use killfile is a must these days. :)


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