• WandaVision

    From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Thursday, February 04, 2021 20:45:57
    So who here is into Marvel stuff?

    I've been watching this one on Disney+ and enjoying it unfold. Certainly a different format to most Marvel efforts in the MCU.

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  • From Oli@21:3/102 to Avon on Thursday, February 04, 2021 09:55:14
    Avon wrote (2021-02-04):

    So who here is into Marvel stuff?

    not really. I enjoyed Watchmen (but that's DC, all the same to me)

    I've been watching this one on Disney+ and enjoying it unfold. Certainly a different format to most Marvel efforts in the MCU.

    I saw it in my new TV shows feed and decided to give it a try. I haven't start watching yet.

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  • From Spectre@21:1/101 to Avon on Thursday, February 04, 2021 23:58:52
    Hmm been marvel for over 35yrs... :) Unfortunately no disney here, so I canna see a thing now :/

    Spec

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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Oli on Thursday, February 04, 2021 08:10:46
    Re: WandaVision
    By: Oli to Avon on Thu Feb 04 2021 09:55 am

    Avon wrote (2021-02-04):

    So who here is into Marvel stuff?

    not really. I enjoyed Watchmen (but that's DC, all the same to me)

    I've been watching this one on Disney+ and enjoying it unfold. Certainly a different format to most Marvel efforts in th
    MCU.

    I saw it in my new TV shows feed and decided to give it a try. I haven't start watching yet.

    I am not much of a Watchmen (movie) fan but I feel the last DC movies I have watched were better than the last Marvel movies I
    have watched.

    Which is sad because DC's are not that good. It is just that Marvel is slipping into Star-Disneysque territory, deeper each
    time.

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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Spectre on Thursday, February 04, 2021 08:17:47
    Re: Re: WandaVision
    By: Spectre to Avon on Thu Feb 04 2021 11:58 pm

    Hmm been marvel for over 35yrs... :) Unfortunately no disney here, so I canna see a thing now :/

    Spec

    My father was a hard marvel fan from the early 70s, in a country which had problems brining foreigner comics in. He has an
    impressive collection of Spanish copies he has been gathering since he was a kid.

    He dropped off Marvel more or less when Rulk became a thing. By that time he felt betrayed since most of the series he had been
    followin'up to that point were either becoming openly political or jumping the shark, or becoming plain bad.

    I was never a hard fun, but I certainly enjoyed the original Thor series. It was epic, had elaborated plots, and had lots of
    things going on at once. I jumped from it after the Jurgens segment of the series, in which Thor causes Ragnarock by smashing
    the threads of destiny. It was frigging epic. What came after that was mostly filler and/or crap so I dropped it.

    What I mean is, you are not missing that much. I suggest you to hold to the memories of the golden ages instead of longing for
    the new stuff :-)



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  • From Oli@21:3/102 to Arelor on Thursday, February 04, 2021 17:34:44
    Arelor wrote (2021-02-04):

    I am not much of a Watchmen (movie) fan

    I was referring to the TV series. I only saw the trailer of the movie, didn't like it too much.

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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Oli on Thursday, February 04, 2021 10:46:29
    Re: WandaVision
    By: Oli to Arelor on Thu Feb 04 2021 05:34 pm

    Arelor wrote (2021-02-04):

    I am not much of a Watchmen (movie) fan

    I was referring to the TV series. I only saw the trailer of the movie, didn't like it too much.

    It had its ok moments but it was not somethign to write home about.

    Also, I watched it with South American dubbing which was a bummer.

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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to Avon on Thursday, February 04, 2021 14:38:31
    I've been watching this one on Disney+ and enjoying it unfold.
    Certainly a
    different format to most Marvel efforts in the MCU.

    Loving this show! I knew it had to be building a bridge to the MCU TV
    phase, and the last episode NAIL IT. I'm in. Especially since we're about
    to get a big suprise, according to the co-star. I'm thinking it's the
    Cap, or even the introduction of the X-Men into the MCU...




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  • From Barmed@1:1/0 to Avon on Thursday, February 04, 2021 21:24:22
    On 04 Feb 2021, Avon said the following...
    So who here is into Marvel stuff?

    I've been watching this one on Disney+ and enjoying it unfold. Certainly
    a different format to most Marvel efforts in the MCU.

    I've been into Marvel since I was a kid. WandaVision is interesting, It's
    got my attention enough to keep coming back each week.

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Barmed on Thursday, February 04, 2021 23:23:00
    Hello Barmed!

    ** On Thursday 04.02.21 - 21:24, Barmed wrote to Avon:

    I've been into Marvel since I was a kid. WandaVision is
    interesting, It's got my attention enough to keep coming
    back each week.

    But isn't it very unlike MCU? ..meaning, not much superhero
    action and powers? I was reading up about WV a little bit and
    it sounds like a story about ex-superheroes trying *not* to use
    their superpowers.

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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to Ogg on Friday, February 05, 2021 00:53:08

    But isn't it very unlike MCU? ..meaning, not much superhero
    action and powers? I was reading up about WV a little bit and
    it sounds like a story about ex-superheroes trying *not* to use
    their superpowers.

    The first 3 episodes were very odd. But EP4 firmly connected it to MCU...
    And pretty sure it's the intro to a whole new generation of super heroes.

    Question is, will they connect Wanda to Magneto (in the comics, she's his daughter)...


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  • From Barmed@21:4/127 to Ogg on Friday, February 05, 2021 05:53:56
    On 04 Feb 2021, Ogg said the following...
    I've been into Marvel since I was a kid. WandaVision is
    interesting, It's got my attention enough to keep coming
    back each week.

    But isn't it very unlike MCU? ..meaning, not much superhero
    action and powers? I was reading up about WV a little bit and
    it sounds like a story about ex-superheroes trying *not* to use
    their superpowers.


    It is a different tone from what the movies have been. But it seems to be an adaptation of a pretty big story line from the comics. And from what I understand, it will tie in or lead into the next Dr Strange movie.

    It's not really ex-superheroes trying to not use their powers so much. But I don't really know how to explain it any better than I did above without using "spoilers."

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  • From Joacim Melin@21:2/130 to Avon on Friday, February 05, 2021 12:42:04
    So who here is into Marvel stuff?

    I've been watching this one on Disney+ and enjoying it unfold.
    Certainly a
    different format to most Marvel efforts in the MCU.

    I have tried to get into the Marvel stuff since my sons really like it. But I just can't. I liked the first Iron Man movie, I thought that Guardians of the Galaxy was pretty entertaining but part from that it's just a mess. I watched all The Avengers movies back to back over a weekend and I had to phone a friend to ask why Captain America is angry at Thor or whover it was and was told that I had to see another movie to understand that, and so on. I understand the MCU is connected and you really have to get into it 100% to understand it but maybe I'm just too old, too boring or.. something... it's not for me.



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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Ogg on Saturday, February 06, 2021 10:19:03
    But isn't it very unlike MCU? ..meaning, not much superhero
    action and powers? I was reading up about WV a little bit and
    it sounds like a story about ex-superheroes trying *not* to use
    their superpowers.

    How's that compare to the S.H.I.E.L.D. series, then? I mean, usage of superpowers.

    I know very little about either one, so it's more of wondering if it's more
    of a format/budget difference.

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  • From Spectre@21:1/101 to Arelor on Sunday, February 07, 2021 00:08:23
    What I mean is, you are not missing that much. I suggest you to hold to the memories of the golden ages instead of longing for
    the new stuff :-)

    I think I'm so far behind the times now, it'd take me the next 30 years to catch up.... per se, when did Cap get killed off??? I also managed to miss whatever happened between Cap and Diamondback. ;) Thats a long time ago
    now.. I think one of the last Iron Man editions I have is from Armour
    Wars...

    I enjoy most of the movies enough... haven't spotted a series yet.. I no longer have the folding stuff to go out and buy the power cosmics anymore either.. :/

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  • From Spectre@21:1/101 to Barmed on Sunday, February 07, 2021 00:27:14
    It is a different tone from what the movies have been. But it seems to
    be an adaptation of a pretty big story line from the comics. And from what I understand, it will tie in or lead into the next Dr Strange movie.

    I forget the cause now, it's either Visions demise before he became a white emotionless dude, or it was the revelation of the two sons being portions of Master Pandemonium's missing soul.

    She has a "break" from reality ergo "wandavision" and is lead back to reality by Agatha, who apparently appears in said series at some point.

    Spec

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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Spectre on Saturday, February 06, 2021 06:58:33
    Re: Re: WandaVision
    By: Spectre to Arelor on Sun Feb 07 2021 12:08 am

    What I mean is, you are not missing that much. I suggest you to hold to the memories of the golden ages instead of longing for
    the new stuff :-)

    I think I'm so far behind the times now, it'd take me the next 30 years to catch up.... per se, when did Cap get killed off??? I also managed to miss whatever happened between Cap and Diamondback. ;) Thats a long time ago now.. I think one of the last Iron Man editions I have is from Armour Wars...

    I enjoy most of the movies enough... haven't spotted a series yet.. I no longer have the folding stuff to go out and buy the power cosmics anymore either.. :/

    Spec

    I liked the movies until they started becoming clear Disney material.

    Disney has spent about a decade building their movies around an idea they want to sell, instead of around a story they want to tell. I think this effect materialized in full in Black Panther which is around the time I jumped off the MCU (alongside a lot of people I know).


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Spectre on Saturday, February 06, 2021 10:54:00
    Spectre wrote to Barmed <=-

    She has a "break" from reality ergo "wandavision" and is lead back to reality by Agatha, who apparently appears in said series at some point.

    Spoilers...


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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Arelor on Sunday, February 07, 2021 08:41:49
    I liked the movies until they started becoming clear Disney material.

    I wonder how I'd feel about Disney if I didn't detest them for how they
    helped bastardize copyright law.

    Probably still not great, but I'd feel a lot better if the original Star Wars series (and _all_ the older Disney movies) were in the public domain.

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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Adept on Sunday, February 07, 2021 04:43:04
    Re: Re: Disney
    By: Adept to Arelor on Sun Feb 07 2021 08:41 am

    I liked the movies until they started becoming clear Disney material.

    I wonder how I'd feel about Disney if I didn't detest them for how they helped bastardize copyright law.

    Probably still not great, but I'd feel a lot better if the original Star Wars series (and _all_ the older Disney movies) wer
    in the public domain.

    Are you aware of "The Disney Vault?"

    It is a long term plan from them in order to squeeze old IP periodicaly. Basically, they release a very old movie as if it was
    new, so people consumes it as if it was a novelty, and then lock it up in the vault for 20 years until everybody has forgotten
    it exists. Then they re-release it as if it was new again.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Arelor on Sunday, February 07, 2021 07:10:00
    Arelor wrote to Adept <=-

    It is a long term plan from them in order to squeeze old IP
    periodicaly. Basically, they release a very old movie as if it was new,
    so people consumes it as if it was a novelty, and then lock it up in
    the vault for 20 years until everybody has forgotten it exists. Then
    they re-release it as if it was new again.

    Hence the use of "Steamboat Willie" in their little studio ads?


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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Arelor on Sunday, February 07, 2021 09:09:17
    Arelor wrote to Adept <=-

    It is a long term plan from them in order to squeeze old IP
    periodicaly. Basically, they release a very old movie as if it was new,
    so people consumes it as if it was a novelty, and then lock it up in
    the vault for 20 years until everybody has forgotten it exists. Then
    they re-release it as if it was new again.

    Yes. I think they do the same thing to their Silly Symphonies and Mickey
    Mouse b&w cartoons. You can get a set of those for about $130US. A
    similar set of Looney Tunes/Merry Melodies would cost you $30-45US. :(



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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Adept on Sunday, February 07, 2021 09:18:29
    I wonder how I'd feel about Disney if I didn't detest them for how they helped bastardize copyright law.

    +1. I loved Mickey Mouse as a kid. Still watch those old cartoons when I
    get a chance, but I don't enjoy them now as much as I do some of the
    non-Disney ones.


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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, February 07, 2021 11:27:22
    Re: Re: Disney
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Sun Feb 07 2021 07:10 am

    Arelor wrote to Adept <=-

    It is a long term plan from them in order to squeeze old IP periodicaly. Basically, they release a very old movie as if it was new, so people consumes it as if it was a novelty, and then lock it up in the vault for 20 years until everybody has forgotten it exists. Then they re-release it as if it was new again.

    Hence the use of "Steamboat Willie" in their little studio ads?


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    I doubt that short is part of their master plan to take over the world, but you never know.

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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Arelor on Monday, February 08, 2021 20:51:35
    Are you aware of "The Disney Vault?"

    Yeah, it's pretty awful.

    It really does seem like keeping copyright for any amount of time should involve having it readily available most of the time.

    But I view any copyright lasting over 28 years to be non-sensical, so I might be biased. If you can't create a derivative work from a childhood favorite
    when you're a middle-aged adult, copyright is actively thwarting the progress of science and the arts.

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  • From Bob Roberts@21:2/118 to Arelor on Tuesday, February 09, 2021 10:14:11
    Are you aware of "The Disney Vault?"

    The Disney Vault is dead. As of August 2019, it's no longer a strategy used by the company. Every movie ever is now available on Disney+ or on DVD/BluRay thru the Disney Signature collection.

    Bob Roberts
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  • From jeff@21:1/180 to Bob Roberts on Tuesday, February 09, 2021 12:42:38
    On 09 Feb 2021, Bob Roberts said the following...
    The Disney Vault is dead. As of August 2019, it's no longer a strategy used by the company. Every movie ever is now available on Disney+ or on DVD/BluRay thru the Disney Signature collection.

    Except, perhaps, "Song of the South."

    Jeff.

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Avon on Tuesday, February 09, 2021 09:54:00
    Avon wrote to All <=-

    So who here is into Marvel stuff?

    <raises hand>

    I've been watching this one on Disney+ and enjoying it unfold.
    Certainly a different format to most Marvel efforts in the MCU.

    Loving it myself!!!




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Spectre on Tuesday, February 09, 2021 09:56:00
    Spectre wrote to Avon <=-

    Hmm been marvel for over 35yrs... :) Unfortunately no disney here, so
    I canna see a thing now :/

    I'm a DC guy as far as the comics, but LOVE the Marvel movies!




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Ogg on Tuesday, February 09, 2021 10:04:00
    Ogg wrote to Barmed <=-

    Hello Barmed!

    But isn't it very unlike MCU? ..meaning, not much superhero
    action and powers? I was reading up about WV a little bit and
    it sounds like a story about ex-superheroes trying *not* to use
    their superpowers.

    Don't read ABOUT it - watch it! :-)




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Joacim Melin on Tuesday, February 09, 2021 10:06:00
    Joacim Melin wrote to Avon <=-

    I have tried to get into the Marvel stuff since my sons really like it. But I just can't. I liked the first Iron Man movie, I thought that Guardians of the Galaxy was pretty entertaining but part from that it's just a mess. I watched all The Avengers movies back to back over a
    weekend and I had to phone a friend to ask why Captain America is angry
    at Thor or whover it was and was told that I had to see another movie
    to understand that, and so on. I understand the MCU is connected and
    you really have to get into it 100% to understand it but maybe I'm just too old, too boring or.. something... it's not for me.

    To each his own
    Your milage may vary
    If we all liked the same thing there'd be only one flavor of ice cream :-)

    IOW - don't sweat it :-) Enjoy what you enjoy and let others enjoy what they enjoy. :-)




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  • From Bob Roberts@21:2/118 to jeff on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 13:22:24
    The Disney Vault is dead. As of August 2019, it's no longer a
    strategy used by the company. Every movie ever is now available on
    Disney+ or on DVD/BluRay thru the Disney Signature collection.

    Except, perhaps, "Song of the South."

    Correct that film never existed as far as they are concerned. I hear they are even recasting the animatronics in Splash Mountain to remove the repurposed Song of the South characters they used to save money during the original build.

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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Bob Roberts on Thursday, February 11, 2021 03:04:13
    Re: Re: Disney
    By: Bob Roberts to jeff on Wed Feb 10 2021 01:22 pm

    The Disney Vault is dead. As of August 2019, it's no longer a
    strategy used by the company. Every movie ever is now available on
    Disney+ or on DVD/BluRay thru the Disney Signature collection.

    Except, perhaps, "Song of the South."

    Correct that film never existed as far as they are concerned. I hear they are even recasting the animatronics in Splash
    Mountain to remove the repurposed Song of the South characters they used to save money during the original build.

    Bob Roberts

    Which is funny, because I have heard some Disney thematic park as a Song of the South film that is very, very popular.

    I should go download that film before they obliterate it from collective memory :-)

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Jimmy Anderson on Friday, February 12, 2021 18:31:00
    I'm a DC guy as far as the comics, but LOVE the Marvel movies!

    I say Marvel and 35 years, but my very first job was circulation in a News Agency, fancy way of being the junior marking and returning magazines. In which one of the perks was to stack away one of every comic that came through the door and read the lot during breaks. :) Ahh those were the days...

    I became somewhat one eyed a bit later... Used to rather 2000AD as well, until they kept recycling the stories. :/

    Spec


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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Arelor on Saturday, February 13, 2021 10:14:00
    Arelor wrote to Bob Roberts <=-

    Correct that film never existed as far as they are concerned. I hear they
    are even recasting the animatronics in Splash
    Mountain to remove the repurposed Song of the South characters they used to
    save money during the original build.

    Bob Roberts

    Which is funny, because I have heard some Disney thematic park as a
    Song of the South film that is very, very popular.

    I should go download that film before they obliterate it from
    collective memory :-)

    DId you hear about what they did to Gina Carano? :-(



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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Spectre on Saturday, February 13, 2021 10:21:00
    Spectre wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    I'm a DC guy as far as the comics, but LOVE the Marvel movies!

    I say Marvel and 35 years, but my very first job was circulation in a
    News Agency, fancy way of being the junior marking and returning magazines. In which one of the perks was to stack away one of every
    comic that came through the door and read the lot during breaks. :)
    Ahh those were the days...

    LOL - cool :-)

    I became somewhat one eyed a bit later... Used to rather 2000AD as
    well, until they kept recycling the stories. :/

    Sorry - I don't understand the reference...




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  • From Bob Roberts@21:2/118 to Jimmy Anderson on Sunday, February 14, 2021 11:07:39
    DId you hear about what they did to Gina Carano? :-(

    I'm sure she'll be wildly successful as a propaganda host on Newsmax.

    Bob Roberts
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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Jimmy Anderson on Sunday, February 14, 2021 15:33:48
    Re: Re: Disney
    By: Jimmy Anderson to Arelor on Sat Feb 13 2021 10:14 am

    Arelor wrote to Bob Roberts <=-

    Correct that film never existed as far as they are concerned. I hear the
    are even recasting the animatronics in Splash
    Mountain to remove the repurposed Song of the South characters they used
    save money during the original build.

    Bob Roberts

    Which is funny, because I have heard some Disney thematic park as a Song of the South film that is very, very popular.

    I should go download that film before they obliterate it from collective memory :-)

    DId you hear about what they did to Gina Carano? :-(



    ... Flashlight: A case for holding dead batteries.

    Yes, I heard to what they did to Gina Carano.

    Se got a role in an action flick with E. Murphy prety much the next day. I think the Disney people shot themselves in their foot more than in Gina's.

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Jimmy Anderson on Sunday, February 14, 2021 18:45:00
    Hello Jimmy Anderson!

    ** On Tuesday 09.02.21 - 10:04, Jimmy Anderson wrote to Ogg:

    ...I was reading up about WV a little bit and it sounds
    like a story about ex-superheroes trying *not* to use
    their superpowers.

    Don't read ABOUT it - watch it! :-)

    Lately I seem to like to know what I would be in for. I notice
    that people generate wiki pages for TV shows. I check those
    out, and read some plot lines. If something appeals to me or
    makes me curious, *then* maybe I'll consider investing my time
    to find the show for offline viewing.

    So far, I haven't been compelled to bother with WandaVision. It
    almost sounds like the movie Jim Carrey was in: The Truman Show.
    I liked that one.

    I guess I'm not much into characters that pretend to have super
    powers. I *did* watch the series Heroes, and enjoyed watching
    that unfold week by week though.

    When the OTA signal was good, I was able to see some of the
    first Wonder Woman movie. Man.. that one moved at a fast pace,
    full of special effects and change of locales. It had me hooked
    to see how they resolved some of their issues. But it went
    quickly down hill during the reviving of Superman's body.

    I recently re-discovered some websites that provide classic
    movie downloads from the 30's all the way through the 70s. One
    site just makes links to the archive.org. Anyway, there is no
    shortage of material to find and discover. Much of today's
    stuff is modelled after films and stories that have already been
    done.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Jimmy Anderson on Monday, February 15, 2021 10:47:00
    Used to rather 2000AD as

    Sorry - I don't understand the reference...

    2000AD is/was an english comic magazine. It used to serialise 4/5 different titles into the one cover. Home to such luminaries as Judge Dredd, Strontium Dog, The VC's, ABC Warriors and so forth. Here it had a kind of alternative feel to it, not sure what they call them, but it was a larger page format.. on newsprint... mostly black and white. In the end they were repeating past stories all the time, and ended up somewhat mainstream by the original stalwarts.

    Spec


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  • From NuSkooler@21:1/121 to Bob Roberts on Sunday, February 14, 2021 19:20:14

    On Sunday, February 14th Bob Roberts was heard saying...
    DId you hear about what they did to Gina Carano? :-(
    I'm sure she'll be wildly successful as a propaganda host on Newsmax.

    Yep, she's already picked up by Sharpio and crew.


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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Nuskooler on Sunday, February 14, 2021 21:41:52
    BY: NuSkooler(21:1/121)

    Yep, she's already picked up by Sharpio and crew.
    I actually know Ben Shapiro's lawyer and I suggested that they hired her and wola. Its a small world.

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  • From NuSkooler@21:1/121 to Utopian Galt on Monday, February 15, 2021 12:17:05

    On Sunday, February 14th Utopian Galt said...
    Yep, she's already picked up by Sharpio and crew.
    I actually know Ben Shapiro's lawyer and I suggested that they hired her and wola. Its a small world.

    Good to know what garbage is floating around.


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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to Spectre on Monday, February 15, 2021 13:22:02
    2000AD is/was an english comic magazine. It used to serialise 4/5
    different titles into the one cover. Home to such luminaries as
    Judge Dredd, Strontium Dog, The VC's, ABC Warriors and so forth.
    Here it had a kind of alternative feel to it, not sure what they call
    them, but it was a larger page format.. on newsprint... mostly black
    and white. In the end they were repeating past stories all the time,
    and ended up somewhat mainstream by the original stalwarts.

    Ha! My fav. mag of ALL TIME. So miss 2000ad, had a digital sub but it's
    just not the same, even on a tablet.

    FUN FACT - My first BBS was called "Strontium 90" and my sysop handle was "Dredd" back in the day. Later became "Johnny Alpha" -- the star of
    Strontium Dog -- then just shortened it to "Alpha" currently.

    There's a rumor that a Rogue Trooper movie adaptation is still in the
    works, with David Bowie's son attached to direct...


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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Adept on Monday, February 15, 2021 17:37:00
    Hello Adept!

    ** On Saturday 06.02.21 - 10:19, Adept wrote to Ogg:

    But isn't it very unlike MCU? ..meaning, not much
    superhero action and powers? I was reading up about WV a
    little bit and it sounds like a story about ex-superheroes
    trying *not* to use their superpowers.

    How's that compare to the S.H.I.E.L.D. series, then? I mean,
    usage of superpowers.

    I don't know about SHIELD.

    I know very little about either one,

    Me neither.

    ...so it's more of wondering if it's more of a format/budget
    difference.

    I've read somewhere that at least one of the previous movies in
    the MCU series is required to fully understand the WV
    characters.


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  • From Barmed@21:4/127 to Ogg on Monday, February 15, 2021 18:11:20
    On 15 Feb 2021, Ogg said the following...
    But isn't it very unlike MCU? ..meaning, not much
    superhero action and powers? I was reading up about WV a
    little bit and it sounds like a story about ex-superheroes
    trying *not* to use their superpowers.

    How's that compare to the S.H.I.E.L.D. series, then? I mean,
    usage of superpowers.

    I don't know about SHIELD.

    You can't really compare WandaVision to other Marvel TV shows that came
    before, even S.H.I.E.L.D. While Shield did have ties to the movies when it started, Marvel split their TV and Movie properties apart.

    Now, going forward, it's all one big happy world.

    I know very little about either one,

    Me neither.

    ...so it's more of wondering if it's more of a format/budget difference.

    I've read somewhere that at least one of the previous movies in
    the MCU series is required to fully understand the WV
    characters.

    The main characters, od course, are direct from the Avengers films, there
    are several supporting characters that were in supporting roles in other
    Marvel films. So knowing who they are without knowing the MCU can be a challenge, but I donpt think it really hurts anything not knowing their history.

    As far as the format, while yes, it is different from the style of the films, It does fit rather well as a means for the Comic book stoey line that it
    seems to be drawing heavily from.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Alpha on Tuesday, February 16, 2021 20:44:00
    FUN FACT - My first BBS was called "Strontium 90" and my sysop handle
    was "Dredd" back in the day. Later became "Johnny Alpha" -- the star
    of Strontium Dog -- then just shortened it to "Alpha" currently.

    I went through a few different phases with 2000AD, Judge Dredd was probably the initial favourite. But in the end I preferred Rogue Trooper, and The VC's... depending on the story ABC warriors wasn't to bad either.

    Spec


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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Arelor on Wednesday, February 17, 2021 11:56:00
    Arelor wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    DId you hear about what they did to Gina Carano? :-(

    Yes, I heard to what they did to Gina Carano.

    Se got a role in an action flick with E. Murphy prety much the next
    day. I think the Disney people shot themselves in their foot more than
    in Gina's.

    I just think it's bad when 'free speech' isn't...



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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Ogg on Wednesday, February 17, 2021 12:22:00
    Ogg wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    ...I was reading up about WV a little bit and it sounds
    like a story about ex-superheroes trying *not* to use
    their superpowers.

    Don't read ABOUT it - watch it! :-)

    Lately I seem to like to know what I would be in for. I notice
    that people generate wiki pages for TV shows. I check those
    out, and read some plot lines. If something appeals to me or
    makes me curious, *then* maybe I'll consider investing my time
    to find the show for offline viewing.

    I'm totally different. I like to experience it 'clean' with no
    preconcieved notions or facts. Plus I can let the makers reveal
    things in the way and time that THEY want to.

    So far, I haven't been compelled to bother with WandaVision. It
    almost sounds like the movie Jim Carrey was in: The Truman Show.
    I liked that one.

    To each his own - I don't see it that way at all, but I've also been
    watching from the beginning of it.

    I guess I'm not much into characters that pretend to have super
    powers. I *did* watch the series Heroes, and enjoyed watching
    that unfold week by week though.

    So the Marvel movies don't interest you? If not, no need to watch
    this show...




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Spectre on Wednesday, February 17, 2021 12:37:00
    Spectre wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    Used to rather 2000AD as

    Sorry - I don't understand the reference...

    2000AD is/was an english comic magazine. It used to serialise 4/5 different titles into the one cover. Home to such luminaries as Judge Dredd, Strontium Dog, The VC's, ABC Warriors and so forth. Here it had
    a kind of alternative feel to it, not sure what they call them, but it
    was a larger page format.. on newsprint... mostly black and white. In
    the end they were repeating past stories all the time, and ended up somewhat mainstream by the original stalwarts.

    Ah - gotcha - thx



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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Barmed on Wednesday, February 17, 2021 12:47:00
    Barmed wrote to Ogg <=-

    You can't really compare WandaVision to other Marvel TV shows that came before, even S.H.I.E.L.D. While Shield did have ties to the movies when
    it started, Marvel split their TV and Movie properties apart.

    Really? I hadn't read that... I was a big fan of SHIELD when it was new
    and even went to see Winter Soldier opening night because of the potential spoilers...

    Now, going forward, it's all one big happy world.

    The main characters, od course, are direct from the Avengers films,
    there are several supporting characters that were in supporting roles
    in other Marvel films. So knowing who they are without knowing the MCU can be a challenge, but I donpt think it really hurts anything not
    knowing their history.

    Agreed. It's just like any other show where someone comes in or a mention
    is made. If you know, you smile. If you don't know, you still get everything you need from the show.

    The Flash television show is FULL of these things! If you're a fan of the comics, you get all the little references. If you're not, they are just
    stage dressing anyway.

    As far as the format, while yes, it is different from the style of the films, It does fit rather well as a means for the Comic book stoey line that it seems to be drawing heavily from.

    LOL - not different at all, IMO. :-)



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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to Jimmy Anderson on Wednesday, February 17, 2021 19:18:06

    I just think it's bad when 'free speech' isn't...

    Nah, it's still free. Non-government entities are free to fire you if
    they agree with the shit you say. Just as consumers are free to punish companies, by not buying their shit, visting their parks,
    subscribing to their streaming channels, etc., for said firing of people.
    If it hurts their bottom line, companies will stop doing that. If not,
    well, that's just capitalism

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Alpha on Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:19:00
    Alpha wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    I just think it's bad when 'free speech' isn't...

    Nah, it's still free. Non-government entities are free to fire you if
    they agree with the shit you say. Just as consumers are free to punish companies, by not buying their shit, visting their parks,
    subscribing to their streaming channels, etc., for said firing of
    people. If it hurts their bottom line, companies will stop doing that.
    If not, well, that's just capitalism

    By 'not free' I meant it costs something - in this case her job.

    I'm not saying they don't have the right to do that, I just think it's
    bad when people are scared to speak out BECAUSE of stuff like this.

    Personally, I don't mind people speaking out in oppisition to how I
    believe - that's their right - but there are people that don't believe
    anyone with a different view SHOULD speak out.




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Avon on Thursday, February 18, 2021 19:40:00
    Avon wrote to All <=-

    So who here is into Marvel stuff?

    I've been watching this one on Disney+ and enjoying it unfold.
    Certainly a different format to most Marvel efforts in the MCU.

    Yep! Been getting into WandaVision since the start, but also
    this week starting watching the MCU from the beginnin, in order.

    First time to see Incredible Hulk (2008) - very much enjoyed it!

    Up to Iron Man 3 now...






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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Jimmy Anderson on Friday, February 19, 2021 20:23:48
    On 18 Feb 2021 at 07:40p, Jimmy Anderson pondered and said...

    Yep! Been getting into WandaVision since the start, but also
    this week starting watching the MCU from the beginnin, in order.

    First time to see Incredible Hulk (2008) - very much enjoyed it!

    Up to Iron Man 3 now...

    Once you watch the movies some of the stuff in Wandavision will make more
    sense :) Yeah I'm enjoying it too :)

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Avon on Friday, February 19, 2021 12:25:00
    Avon wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    On 18 Feb 2021 at 07:40p, Jimmy Anderson pondered and said...

    Yep! Been getting into WandaVision since the start, but also
    this week starting watching the MCU from the beginnin, in order.

    First time to see Incredible Hulk (2008) - very much enjoyed it!

    Up to Iron Man 3 now...

    Once you watch the movies some of the stuff in Wandavision will make
    more sense :) Yeah I'm enjoying it too :)

    I've seen all the movies before except Hulk (have now) and the Spider-Man
    ones. Will rent those when I get to them, but yeah, have seen all the
    others. :-)




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  • From bcw142@21:1/145 to Alpha on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 17:40:20
    On 05 Feb 2021, Alpha said the following...

    Question is, will they connect Wanda to Magneto (in the comics, she's his daughter)...

    I suspect they will, just like the glimpses of Vision dead and Wanda's 'brother' (noted as recast) with bullet holes in him. They are both in the Halloween episode before she expanded the 'bubble'.adding the circus/

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  • From bcw142@21:1/145 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 17:50:44
    On 06 Feb 2021, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

    Spectre wrote to Barmed <=-

    She has a "break" from reality ergo "wandavision" and is lead back to reality by Agatha, who apparently appears in said series at some poin

    Spoilers...

    There is no way to say anything without such 'spoilers'. The above is accurate as well (all that I've seen in the series up to Episode 7).

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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to bcw142 on Wednesday, February 24, 2021 06:59:31
    I suspect they will, just like the glimpses of Vision dead and Wanda's 'brother' (noted as recast) with bullet holes in him. They are both in
    the
    Halloween episode before she expanded the 'bubble'.adding the circus/

    Speculation--
    The Anges bit was sort of telegraphed, but I liked it... And more
    imporantly -- MEPHISTO IS COMING!! He's basically Satan of the Marvel
    universe. This show keeps getting better and better!


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Alpha on Thursday, February 25, 2021 21:03:44
    On 24 Feb 2021 at 06:59a, Alpha pondered and said...

    The Anges bit was sort of telegraphed, but I liked it... And more imporantly -- MEPHISTO IS COMING!! He's basically Satan of the Marvel universe. This show keeps getting better and better!

    I think watch the Rabbit... Senior Scratchy is to be reckoned with :)

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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to Avon on Thursday, February 25, 2021 06:46:26

    I think watch the Rabbit... Senior Scratchy is to be reckoned with :)

    Ha, Old Scratch himself! Brilliant.


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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to bcw142 on Thursday, March 04, 2021 15:44:07
    Very interesting. apparenly they are setting things up for the new Dr.Strange movie and the new spider-man movie. Also falcon and winter soldger are
    suppose to be coming out on march 16th i think...




    On 23 Feb 2021, bcw142 said the following...

    On 05 Feb 2021, Alpha said the following...

    Question is, will they connect Wanda to Magneto (in the comics, she's daughter)...

    I suspect they will, just like the glimpses of Vision dead and Wanda's 'brother' (noted as recast) with bullet holes in him. They are both in
    the Halloween episode before she expanded the 'bubble'.adding the circus/

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    - Gamecube Buddy

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Alpha on Friday, March 05, 2021 19:31:11
    On 25 Feb 2021 at 06:46a, Alpha pondered and said...

    I think watch the Rabbit... Senior Scratchy is to be reckoned with :)

    Ha, Old Scratch himself! Brilliant.

    My reply is delayed, but just saw episode 8 and looking forward to 9 :)

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  • From bcw142@21:1/145 to gcubebuddy on Friday, March 05, 2021 10:06:36
    On 04 Mar 2021, gcubebuddy said the following...

    Very interesting. apparenly they are setting things up for the new Dr.Strange movie and the new spider-man movie. Also falcon and winter soldger are suppose to be coming out on march 16th i think...

    Yup, sounds right and anything else they can throw in (as Wanda will just fabricate it out of the air around). ;)

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  • From SirRonmit@21:2/120 to Avon on Saturday, March 20, 2021 07:27:28
    So who here is into Marvel stuff?

    I've been watching this one on Disney+ and enjoying it unfold. Certainly
    a different format to most Marvel efforts in the MCU.

    I watched the series. I like to watch all the shows/movies, but I'm no where
    a dedicated fan as one would be. I grew up with Superman, Spiderman, WonderWoman shows on TV back then.

    Tim N
    admin@f4fbbs.com

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  • From Alpha@21:4/158.1 to All on Saturday, March 20, 2021 08:30:30
    So who here is into Marvel stuff?

    I've been watching this one on Disney+ and enjoying it unfold.
    Certainly
    a different format to most Marvel efforts in the MCU.

    I caught Falcon and the Winter Soldier premiere last night... Could be interesting. Def. more of a straight up Marvel approach, action,
    adventure, villians, etc. Wasn't looking forward to it that much--but
    def. will stick around. Cool to see a post-End Game world, beyond Far
    From Home.

    In another comic movie world, I started watching the Justice League
    Snyder Cut. It's over four hours long and is 4x3 instead of widescreen,
    which is odd. Artistic choice, apparently. Watching one hour at a time,
    LOL. First impressions, it's slightly more coherent than the theatrical
    cut, but it's still pretty boring...


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Alpha on Sunday, March 21, 2021 07:45:00
    Alpha wrote to All <=-

    I caught Falcon and the Winter Soldier premiere last night... Could be interesting. Def. more of a straight up Marvel approach, action, adventure, villians, etc. Wasn't looking forward to it that much--but
    def. will stick around. Cool to see a post-End Game world, beyond Far
    From Home.

    There's a lot of content you could cover about the snap - how people got
    along dealing with grief and lack of closure, how they kept civilization going, and how they dealt with having 50% of the population coming back. Wondering who's doing their job now, seeing some people who assumed their loved ones weren't coming back and moved on, and so on. Definitely not traditional Marvel material.



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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, March 21, 2021 22:49:01
    their loved ones weren't coming back and moved on, and so on. Definitely not traditional Marvel material.

    What's traditional Marvel material?

    I remember reading X-Men comics as a kid, and the whole premise of mutants being different, to be feared, and so on, and the fallout from all these various issues seemed to be pretty central to many of the story arcs.

    But it's not like I was reading them during the Stan Lee / Jack Kirby
    creating new superheroes phase.

    And, certainly, superhero cartoons and movies tended to not have a whole lot
    of depth until fairly recently.

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Sirronmit on Monday, March 22, 2021 07:57:00
    SirRonmit wrote to Avon <=-

    So who here is into Marvel stuff?

    I've been watching this one on Disney+ and enjoying it unfold. Certainly
    a different format to most Marvel efforts in the MCU.

    I watched the series. I like to watch all the shows/movies, but I'm no where a dedicated fan as one would be. I grew up with Superman,
    Spiderman, WonderWoman shows on TV back then.

    I enjoyed WandaVision for sure!

    I grew up watching SuperFriends :-) But I also read comics. I even have
    most of them from then, and have filled in a lot of holes in my
    collection. I read Superman and some Spider-Man, but my favorites were
    Flash and Green Lantern. :-)




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Alpha on Monday, March 22, 2021 08:05:00
    Alpha wrote to All <=-

    So who here is into Marvel stuff?

    I've been watching this one on Disney+ and enjoying it unfold.
    Certainly
    a different format to most Marvel efforts in the MCU.

    I caught Falcon and the Winter Soldier premiere last night... Could be interesting. Def. more of a straight up Marvel approach, action, adventure, villians, etc. Wasn't looking forward to it that much--but
    def. will stick around. Cool to see a post-End Game world, beyond Far
    From Home.

    No spoilers from me, for anyone reading this...

    I watched it as well and man did it start strong!!! I was invested the
    whole time and the 'opening' felt like a Bond movie to me. LOL

    In another comic movie world, I started watching the Justice League
    Snyder Cut. It's over four hours long and is 4x3 instead of widescreen, which is odd. Artistic choice, apparently. Watching one hour at a time, LOL. First impressions, it's slightly more coherent than the theatrical cut, but it's still pretty boring...

    I started it over the weekend. I also noticed right away the length of it! Watched just about 30 minutes on first 'time to go to bed' - LOL - watched
    more last night - still haven't finished it.

    Haven't found it boring at all, but it is definately a different TONE
    than the teatrical cut...





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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Poindexter Fortran on Monday, March 22, 2021 08:10:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Alpha <=-

    Alpha wrote to All <=-

    I caught Falcon and the Winter Soldier premiere last night... Could be interesting. Def. more of a straight up Marvel approach, action, adventure, villians, etc. Wasn't looking forward to it that much--but
    def. will stick around. Cool to see a post-End Game world, beyond Far
    From Home.

    There's a lot of content you could cover about the snap - how people
    got along dealing with grief and lack of closure, how they kept civilization going, and how they dealt with having 50% of the
    population coming back. Wondering who's doing their job now, seeing
    some people who assumed their loved ones weren't coming back and moved
    on, and so on. Definitely not traditional Marvel material.

    Good point! Hadn't thought of it that way, but yeah, really has a lot of
    heart!

    I also think it's interesting that this is TWO shows they've called it
    the BLIP. Also an interesting term for what happened...




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Adept on Monday, March 22, 2021 08:13:00
    Adept wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    their loved ones weren't coming back and moved on, and so on. Definitely not traditional Marvel material.

    What's traditional Marvel material?

    I think he meant traditional MCU material. :-)

    I remember reading X-Men comics as a kid, and the whole premise of
    mutants being different, to be feared, and so on, and the fallout from
    all these various issues seemed to be pretty central to many of the
    story arcs.

    But it's not like I was reading them during the Stan Lee / Jack Kirby creating new superheroes phase.

    Always been more of a DC guy when it comes to comics (Flash and Green
    Lantern, espescially). I did read some Spider-Man as a kid, during the
    clone storyline. That was pretty 'deep' but just could not get into
    Captain America comics. I'm also one of those people that does NOT
    enjoy Jack Kirby's style of drawing...

    And, certainly, superhero cartoons and movies tended to not have a
    whole lot of depth until fairly recently.

    Very true. They were always aimed at 'kids' (SuperFriends) - even the
    Superman Movie from 1978 wasn't as dark as today, but I think it still
    holds up!



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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 10:48:00
    loved ones weren't coming back and moved on, and so on. Definitely not traditional Marvel material.

    Closest I can think of would be, Damage Control. Not sure if they went any further but it had two 4 issue runs. About a company that cleans up the mess after SuperHero showdowns. Oddly enough they end up selling their "DC" headquarters to another comic business downtown.

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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Jimmy Anderson on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 18:27:11
    I think he meant traditional MCU material. :-)

    Sure, but even there... The Avengers Civil War movie was basically about conflicting types of philosophy. And Iron Man probably took off because of
    how he's a fairly complex character, where he's a bit of an antihero.

    On the other hand, I thought there was a fair amount of depth to Powerpuff Girls, so maybe I just have a different scale?

    Still, I've tended to be more dismissive toward super early things, because
    it does get to be very black-and-white, superhero-punches-Nazis sort of deals.

    Though "dismissive" does not mean "bad" -- I enjoy old-time radio programs,
    and a lot of those are about discovering literal Nazis in order to have something nasty happen to them.

    Always been more of a DC guy when it comes to comics (Flash and Green Lantern, espescially). I did read some Spider-Man as a kid, during the

    Yeah, I was always more of a Marvel gal, but I think it was mostly that I
    read a lot of X-Men-sphere comics.

    I know I read some Green Arrow, but I think I mostly just went from X-Men to independents. So, e.g., I read a significant portion of CrossGen comics while they existed.

    Not that I read much in the way of comics or graphic novels, now, even if I have purchased a couple in German in the hopes that it'll be more engaging to read as I struggle through it.

    Very true. They were always aimed at 'kids' (SuperFriends) - even the Superman Movie from 1978 wasn't as dark as today, but I think it still holds up!

    Superman and Batman do seem to be the exceptions on comics making it
    elsewhere, until the Marvel Cinematic Universe showed up. Though the older Batman movies do look... silly.

    And I'm still entertained at how my mom was not allowed to watch Batman
    growing up because it was too violent.

    I think societal standards on violence have changed a bit over time.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Jimmy Anderson on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 07:10:00
    Jimmy Anderson wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-

    I also think it's interesting that this is TWO shows they've called it
    the BLIP. Also an interesting term for what happened...

    Good point, when the Avengers referred to "The Snap", alluding to the motion Thanos made. I suppose the public wouldn't know specifics.

    Imagine how the government would deal with it - some closeted conspiracy freaks thinking it was political, others using the opportunity to sieze control - I'd think the world people returned to would be dramatically different.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Jimmy Anderson on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 09:45:00
    Jimmy Anderson wrote to Adept <=-

    their loved ones weren't coming back and moved on, and so on. Definitely not traditional Marvel material.

    What's traditional Marvel material?

    I think he meant traditional MCU material. :-)

    Yes, thank you for the clarification. I loved the back stories in the
    comics, but with movies as the medium, sometimes the stories get lost in the visuals.

    I loved the "normal humans coming to terms with power and responsibility" comic stories, like the original Spider-Man and Nova comics - the human side of being suddenly different, having a secret life, and having
    responsibilities that no one else can understand is a great way to add depth to a story about a person in a cape.



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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 23:29:06
    I also think it's interesting that this is TWO shows they've called
    it the BLIP. Also an interesting term for what happened...

    Good point, when the Avengers referred to "The Snap", alluding to the motion Thanos made. I suppose the public wouldn't know specifics.

    Yeah, according to the interview I read w/Kevin Feige:

    "It came pretty fast. We always referred to it as the Blip, and then the public started referring to it as the Snap. We think it's funny when high school kids (Spider-Man: Far From Home) just call this horrific, universe-changing event the Blip. We've narrowed it down to The Snap is when everybody disappeared at the end of Infinity War. The Blip is when everybody returned at the end of Endgame, and that is how we have narrowed in on the definitions."

    Makes sense in an MCU sort of way :)

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Adept on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 20:24:00
    Adept wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    I think he meant traditional MCU material. :-)

    Sure, but even there... The Avengers Civil War movie was basically
    about conflicting types of philosophy. And Iron Man probably took off because of how he's a fairly complex character, where he's a bit of an antihero.

    On the other hand, I thought there was a fair amount of depth to
    Powerpuff Girls, so maybe I just have a different scale?

    LOL - and yeah youu have a point about Iron Man...

    Still, I've tended to be more dismissive toward super early things, because it does get to be very black-and-white, superhero-punches-Nazis sort of deals.

    Captain America was 'superhero punchs Nazis' - literally - LOL - but I
    think it had more depth too. I really enjoyed how Steve was shown having
    heart long before the tranformation. To that end, he's still one of the
    most wholesome, and therefor one of my favorite characters.

    Though "dismissive" does not mean "bad" -- I enjoy old-time radio programs, and a lot of those are about discovering literal Nazis in
    order to have something nasty happen to them.

    I enjoy old Westerns - I really enjoy the old Gunsmoke radio episodes!

    Always been more of a DC guy when it comes to comics (Flash and Green Lantern, espescially). I did read some Spider-Man as a kid, during the

    Yeah, I was always more of a Marvel gal, but I think it was mostly that
    I read a lot of X-Men-sphere comics.

    I never got into the X-titles. Just didn't strike my fancy.

    I know I read some Green Arrow, but I think I mostly just went from
    X-Men to independents. So, e.g., I read a significant portion of
    CrossGen comics while they existed.

    Not that I read much in the way of comics or graphic novels, now, even
    if I have purchased a couple in German in the hopes that it'll be more engaging to read as I struggle through it.

    I started buying some again when Rebirth happened, but it got too expensive
    to keep up every month. :-) If you like some depth, though, I do recommend Jessica Cruz as Green Lantern! Very 'real' issues andd problems! Grew up
    with Hal Jordan as my favorite Green Lantern, but not sure I don't like
    her better. :-)

    Very true. They were always aimed at 'kids' (SuperFriends) - even the Superman Movie from 1978 wasn't as dark as today, but I think it still holds up!

    Superman and Batman do seem to be the exceptions on comics making it elsewhere, until the Marvel Cinematic Universe showed up. Though the
    older Batman movies do look... silly.

    I think they were fun. :-) Even Batman and Robin. It wasn't supposed to
    be dark - it was supposed to be a kid's movie. :-)

    And I'm still entertained at how my mom was not allowed to watch Batman growing up because it was too violent.

    The television show? Wow - they even blocked out the punches and replaced
    them with 'pow' and 'bam' - :-) Even the crooks hideouts had the cameras 'tilted' to show they were in the bad guy's place.

    I think societal standards on violence have changed a bit over time.

    Oh - no doubt! It's gone downhill, in my opinion...



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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Poindexter Fortran on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 20:29:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    Jimmy Anderson wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-

    I also think it's interesting that this is TWO shows they've called it
    the BLIP. Also an interesting term for what happened...

    Good point, when the Avengers referred to "The Snap", alluding to the motion Thanos made. I suppose the public wouldn't know specifics.

    Yeah, that's a good point too. Shows they are really on a different
    'level.'

    Imagine how the government would deal with it - some closeted
    conspiracy freaks thinking it was political, others using the
    opportunity to sieze control - I'd think the world people returned to would be dramatically different.

    Yeah - I wonder if there will be more things that explore the
    'regular' people...




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Poindexter Fortran on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 20:35:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    Yes, thank you for the clarification. I loved the back stories in the comics, but with movies as the medium, sometimes the stories get lost
    in the visuals.

    Well, also movies follow, usually, a 3 act structure, and you only have
    a couple of hours to tell a story. Some movies will go to three hours,
    but that's not standard.

    My point is that it's a different medium so the structure HAS to be
    different, but in comics it's like any other book where you can go
    into a ton of backstory...

    I loved the "normal humans coming to terms with power and
    responsibility" comic stories, like the original Spider-Man and Nova comics - the human side of being suddenly different, having a secret
    life, and having responsibilities that no one else can understand is a great way to add depth to a story about a person in a cape.

    Agreed!!!

    Easier to relate as well...





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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Alpha on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 20:36:00
    Alpha wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    "It came pretty fast. We always referred to it as the Blip, and then
    the public started referring to it as the Snap. We think it's funny
    when high school kids (Spider-Man: Far From Home) just call this
    horrific, universe-changing event the Blip. We've narrowed it down to
    The Snap is when everybody disappeared at the end of Infinity War. The Blip is when everybody returned at the end of Endgame, and that is how
    we have narrowed in on the definitions."

    Makes sense in an MCU sort of way :)

    LOL - very well put!




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Adept on Wednesday, March 24, 2021 07:44:00
    Adept wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    Superman and Batman do seem to be the exceptions on comics making it elsewhere, until the Marvel Cinematic Universe showed up. Though the
    older Batman movies do look... silly.

    And I'm still entertained at how my mom was not allowed to watch Batman growing up because it was too violent.

    BOFFF! BAM! POWWWW!

    I got Season 1 of the TV show for christmas a couple of years ago, and my
    kids were entertained by the bat-rope scenes ("Aw, come on, dad - you can
    tell they turned the camera sideways!") and I was fascinated at how they couldn't tell that Jill St. John was impersonating Dick Grayson. Classic
    camp.




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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to Alpha on Friday, March 26, 2021 15:36:57
    On 20 Mar 2021, Alpha said the following...

    So who here is into Marvel stuff?

    I've been watching this one on Disney+ and enjoying it unfold.
    Certainly
    a different format to most Marvel efforts in the MCU.

    I caught Falcon and the Winter Soldier premiere last night... Could be interesting. Def. more of a straight up Marvel approach, action, adventure, villians, etc. Wasn't looking forward to it that much--but
    def. will stick around. Cool to see a post-End Game world, beyond Far
    From Home.

    In another comic movie world, I started watching the Justice League
    Snyder Cut. It's over four hours long and is 4x3 instead of widescreen, which is odd. Artistic choice, apparently. Watching one hour at a time, LOL. First impressions, it's slightly more coherent than the theatrical cut, but it's still pretty boring...


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    I saw the first Falcon & winter soldger show. i though it was awesome! espically the opening fight scene. I have high hopes for the show.

    Thanks
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  • From goto_KCM@21:1/101 to gcubebuddy on Saturday, March 27, 2021 05:36:33
    WandaVision was nice except the last two episodes which i think had to be finished real fast. Don't know, but the ending was a little fuzzy.

    Falcon & Winter Soldier was an amazing first episode.
    Really looking forward to see the second one tonight.

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  • From gcubebuddy@21:4/129 to goto_KCM on Friday, March 26, 2021 18:03:06

    On 27 Mar 2021, goto_KCM said the following...

    WandaVision was nice except the last two episodes which i think had to be finished real fast. Don't know, but the ending was a little fuzzy.

    Falcon & Winter Soldier was an amazing first episode.
    Really looking forward to see the second one tonight.

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    ya me too! for a few minutes i was kind of worried that my echos were not getting through lol. thanks for responding :-)

    Thanks
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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to goto_KCM on Saturday, March 27, 2021 10:56:37
    On 27 Mar 2021 at 05:36a, goto_KCM pondered and said...

    WandaVision was nice except the last two episodes which i think had to be finished real fast. Don't know, but the ending was a little fuzzy.

    I agree it seemed to wrap quickly and there were a few aspects that I thought could have been handled differently but hey it was a 9 out of 10 for me overall. :)

    Falcon & Winter Soldier was an amazing first episode.
    Really looking forward to see the second one tonight.

    Same here... watching EP2 tonight. I miss the original Cap :(

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Gcubebuddy on Friday, March 26, 2021 21:33:00
    gcubebuddy wrote to Alpha <=-



    I saw the first Falcon & winter soldger show. i though it was awesome! espically the opening fight scene. I have high hopes for the show.

    I haven't watched today's episode yet, but yeah the first one was top
    notch! The opening 'scene' reminded me of the beginning of a Bond
    movie. :-)




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Goto_kcm on Friday, March 26, 2021 21:36:00
    goto_KCM wrote to gcubebuddy <=-

    WandaVision was nice except the last two episodes which i think had to
    be finished real fast. Don't know, but the ending was a little fuzzy.

    I think it just got to a point where there could be no more build up
    and they had to finish it... Stephen King books have always felt that
    way to me. It's the journey, not the ending, and I think this was the
    same way.

    Plus it left it open for "wonder what's gonna happen next?"

    To quote an older movie - "It's not the end. It's not the beginning
    of the end. It's the end of the beginning."

    Falcon & Winter Soldier was an amazing first episode.
    Really looking forward to see the second one tonight.

    I don't know that I'll watch tonight, but looking forward to it. :-)

    I also watched the first four episodes of this year's Flash. :-)



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  • From goto_KCM@21:1/218 to Avon on Saturday, March 27, 2021 08:14:04
    Oh yes, the new Cap looks so, so, not a hero :-).
    Looking forward to see more of Bucky.

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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to goto_KCM on Saturday, March 27, 2021 07:40:38
    Oh yes, the new Cap looks so, so, not a hero :-).
    Looking forward to see more of Bucky.

    Kurt Russell's son Wyatt looks downright GOOFY in his Patriot cap. But damn, he's a good actor. If you haven't seen AMC's "LODGE 49" it's freaking amazing. Wierd. It's like LOST in a Moose lodge.

    Anyway, haven't seen EP2 yet, but looking forward to it!

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