Hi All,

Does anyone use Gentoo Linux?

I would like to switch from Debian to Gentoo (Plasma) as my main desktop OS. (I'm experienced with Linux)

1. How long could you keep it stable?
2. Am I crazy? :)

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Re: Good idea? Gentoo as main desktop OS
By: virgilv0x to All on Mon Nov 09 2020 09:15 pm

Hi All,

Does anyone use Gentoo Linux?

I would like to switch from Debian to Gentoo (Plasma) as my main desktop OS. (I'm experienced with Linux)

1. How long could you keep it stable?
2. Am I crazy? :)

I have been playing with it since I am sadly being forced out of Slackware. My initial impressions:

1* You are building the thing the way you like, so it is going to be as experimental as you want it to be. So far, if you don't use crazy USE flags and aboyd ~arch keywords, it seems reasonable. That said, I am using stuff like -pam and (+)libressl with testing packages thrown in. So far nothing has broken, but it is too soon to say.

2* We are talking about DAYS compiling software if your computer is as old as mine. I donç't know about you. I am certainly crazy.

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Hello virgilv0x,

Does anyone use Gentoo Linux?

Not in a very long time, but I like gentoo.

I would like to switch from Debian to Gentoo (Plasma) as my main
desktop OS. (I'm experienced with Linux)

1. How long could you keep it stable?

Once you have the deal done it will be stable.

2. Am I crazy? :)

Aren't we all.. just a little.. ;)

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Good idea? Gentoo as main desktop OS
By: Al to virgilv0x on Mon Nov 09 2020 05:14 pm

Hi Al

I did e-mail via your web site but I thought I would try here as well

i have installed a fresh copy of sbbs v3.18 on another hyper-v window
and having trouble connecting per

11/10 03:55:45p QNET FTP Session with gamenet.synchronet.bbs.org failed: Login failed: 530 Login authentication failed
11/10 03:55:45p QNET Call-out to: GAMENET returned 1

My connection workwd fine on my sbbs ver 3.17 and when I Telnet into you bbs must probaly my setting, but woudering if you have any suggests for me

Thank you

Ian S 1st Choice Core Nz

Hello Sneaky,

I did e-mail via your web site but I thought I would try here as well

I haven't seen eny email from you. I don't actually have a website at the moment. If you want to e-mail me my address is agianson@gmail.com

i have installed a fresh copy of sbbs v3.18 on another hyper-v window
and having trouble connecting per

11/10 03:55:45p QNET FTP Session with gamenet.synchronet.bbs.org failed: Login failed: 530 Login authentication failed 11/10 03:55:45p QNET Call-out to: GAMENET returned 1

That looks like a password error. Check your password setup for the gamenet QWK hub.

My connection workwd fine on my sbbs ver 3.17 and when I Telnet into
you bbs must probaly my setting, but woudering if you have any
suggests for me

That is good, it should work just as well with 3.18 as previous versions.

That is Marisa's network, not mine. It runs on one of Marisa's servers.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Hi Al

I did e-mail via your web site but I thought I would try here as well

I haven't seen eny email from you. I don't actually have a website at
the moment. If you want to e-mail me my address is agianson@gmail.com

It's okay ,I thought it was web site had all the info there The Rusty MailBox
and gamenet pack, but must of send the email to a differnet person , no problem.

i have installed a fresh copy of sbbs v3.18 on another hyper-v window
and having trouble connecting per

11/10 03:55:45p QNET FTP Session with gamenet.synchronet.bbs.org failed: Login failed: 530 Login authentication failed 11/10 03:55:45p QNET Call-out to: GAMENET returned 1

That looks like a password error. Check your password setup for the gamenet QWK hub.

Yes it could be the be the password, but check it changed it upperclass lower class
other ways ,but still same, as the password worked fine on the v3.17 and when telnet into
The Rusty MailBox to check the qwk settings fine then, I am unsure why it won't work now

That is good, it should work just as well with 3.18 as previous
versions.

Yes it should, but it will probably be me, not doing samething right.

That is Marisa's network, not mine. It runs on one of Marisa's servers.

so I should get intoch with Marisa's network then I might have to go FTN.

Thank you for you help

Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs v3.18 Nz


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Does anyone use Gentoo Linux?

I use Gentoo on an older powerpc mac because it's the only way I can get a modern-ish OS on that platform.

I would like to switch from Debian to Gentoo (Plasma) as my main desktop OS. (I'm experienced with Linux)

Gentoo is a distro and Plasma is the desktop experience, so these are two different things. That said, I don't /personally/ see benefit from using Gentoo, and actually I prefer using a binary distro (vs a source based
distro) because I don't find any tangible benefit to compiling everything myself. The performance advantage you may be able to barely eke out of a
custom compilation will likely be surpassed in a binary based distro by how quickly you can actually install software that you want :)

What is your reason for wanting to switch?

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virgilv0x wrote (2020-11-09):

Hi All,

Does anyone use Gentoo Linux?

I would like to switch from Debian to Gentoo (Plasma) as my main desktop OS. (I'm experienced with Linux)

1. How long could you keep it stable?
2. Am I crazy? :)

Gentoo is not that popular anymore (which doesn't mean it's crazy too use it). More modern approaches are NixOS and
Guix (and maybe Arch Linux). My experience is that you really have to try the distributions to figure out if you like their approach.

To be honest, the Linux way with various package managers and hundreds of distributions sucks (and the alternatives suck to).

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2* We are talking about DAYS compiling software if your computer is as
old as mine. I don‡'t know about you. I am certainly crazy.

I was in charge of IT at a company where we traded software for most everything, and I traded copies of our software for a ton of
EtherExpress cards - so we didn't have any other cards floating
around.

Linux at the time didn't have a driver for the card, but I had a
co-worker who had friends at Intel, and some code appeared on a floppy
disk.

Getting the kernel to compile with the new code on a 386/33 took 3
days of us crossing our fingers for no power glitches, system crashes
or other compile-ending events.



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Re: Gamenet Qwk not connectin
By: Sneaky to Al on Tue Nov 10 2020 07:18 pm

11/10 03:55:45p QNET FTP Session with

gamenet.synchronet.bbs.org ailed: Login failed: 530 Login
authentication failed 11/10 03:55:45p QNET Call-out to: GAMENET
returned 1

That should be gamenet.synchronetbbs.org.

I think if you fix that you'll be good to go.

so I should get in toch with Marisa's network then I might have to go FTN.

Yes. Marisa might send you to me. If she did then I would try to work that out for you but I think if you fix the hostname it'll work for you.

I should have saw that the first time! ;)

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Re: Good idea? Gentoo as main desktop OS
By: anthk to virgilv0x on Wed Nov 11 2020 06:11 am

virgilv0x wrote to All <=-

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Hi All,

Does anyone use Gentoo Linux?

I would like to switch from Debian to Gentoo (Plasma) as my main desktop OS. (I'm experienced with Linux)

1. How long could you keep it stable?
2. Am I crazy? :)

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I have looked into it.

It sounds like a Gentoo with a discrete release model... but it is basically Gentoo
with custom profiles and USEs on it. I should give it a try but I usually keep using
original distributions instead of derivatives unless their advantages are massive.
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Hi Al

gamenet.synchronet.bbs.org failed: Login failed: 530 Login
authentication failed 11/10 03:55:45p QNET Call-out to: GAMENET
returned 1

That should be gamenet.synchronetbbs.org.

Yes it should be this address, my bag as soon as you pointed out
to me the part .bbs and worked to a point but I get this now

11/12 04:49:34p QNET Download of GAMENET.qwk failed: recvline timeout waiting for response to command: 'RETR GAMENET.qwk'
dove qwk works fine so that good any thoughts on this, thanks

I think if you fix that you'll be good to go.

partly

so I should get in toch with Marisa's network then I might have to go FTN.

Yes. Marisa might send you to me. If she did then I would try to work
that out for you but I think if you fix the hostname it'll work for
you.

had a go at it :)

I should have saw that the first time! ;)

Me 2

Thank you
Ian S 1st Choice Core Nz

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Re: Gamenet Qwk not connectin
By: Sneaky to Al on Thu Nov 12 2020 05:00 pm

11/12 04:49:34p QNET Download of GAMENET.qwk failed: recvline timeout waiting for response to command: 'RETR GAMENET.qwk'
dove qwk works fine so that good any thoughts on this, thanks

I haven't seen that error before, there seems to be some problem grabbing the GAMENET.qwk file.

Have a close look at your QWK hub settings for that hub and be sure everything is as it should be. Compare it to your VERT settings.

Let me know if your problems continue and I'll try to have a closer look.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Gamenet Qwk not connectin
By: Al to Sneaky on Wed Nov 11 2020 08:40 pm

Hi Al

Re: Gamenet Qwk not connectin

I haven't seen that error before, there seems to be some problem
grabbing the GAMENET.qwk file.

Have a close look at your QWK hub settings for that hub and be sure everything is as it should be. Compare it to your VERT settings.

Yes I Compare both and the same,so I am unsure why it not picking up
the packets

I tried on my 3.17 version worked but a long time to get the download pkt
the 3.18 a long time to do it with that problem
it as thought it a bad internet connection or because of a ip address change ??

Let me know if your problems continue and I'll try to have a closer
look.

it would be good if you can have a close look at it or I might have to go ftn

Thank you for your help

Ian S 1st choice core nz

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Re: Gamenet Qwk not connectin
By: Sneaky to Al on Thu Nov 12 2020 05:00 pm

11/12 04:49:34p QNET Download of GAMENET.qwk failed: recvline timeout waiting for response to command: 'RETR GAMENET.qwk'
dove qwk works fine so that good any thoughts on this, thanks

I haven't seen that error before, there seems to be some problem
grabbing the GAMENET.qwk file.

Have a close look at your QWK hub settings for that hub and be sure everything is as it should be. Compare it to your VERT settings.

Let me know if your problems continue and I'll try to have a closer
look.

IIRC, that error can happen if the hub is taking too long to create the
packet, i.e. there are too many messages waiting. It can also happen if
the hub has another event "hung" (like a binkit event) that won't allow the
QWK packet to be packed.


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Re: Gamenet Qwk not connectin
By: Sneaky to Al on Fri Nov 13 2020 09:10 am

Have a close look at your QWK hub settings for that hub and be sure
everything is as it should be. Compare it to your VERT settings.

Yes I Compare both and the same,so I am unsure why it not picking up
the packets

I think you need to ask Marisa at this point. She'll need to have a look at what is happening on the server side of things.

Her email address is in the gamenet infopack.

it would be good if you can have a close look at it or I might have to go ftn

I can't get access to the server at this point. Let me know how things go, if need be I'll get in touch with Marisa and see if I can have a look at the server myself.

it would be good if you can have a close look at it or I might have to go ftn

You could go FTN but I don't reccomend that with Synchronet. If QWK nodes are having trouble that would affect FTN also so we'd want to solve that along with anything else needing a look so it works as expected all around.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Re: Gamenet Qwk not connectin
By: Blue White to Al on Thu Nov 12 2020 11:17 am

IIRC, that error can happen if the hub is taking too long to create the packet, i.e. there are too many messages waiting. It can also happen if the hub has another event "hung" (like a binkit event) that won't allow the QWK packet to be packed.

Yep, it seems there is a problem so we'll need to get to the bottom of that.

Are you a gamenet node, and do you see any issues?

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Hi Al

Yes I Compare both and the same,so I am unsure why it not picking up
the packets

I think you need to ask Marisa at this point. She'll need to have a
look at what is happening on the server side of things.

Her email address is in the gamenet infopack.

Yes I have e-mail Marisa and will let you now when I here back about.

I can't get access to the server at this point. Let me know how things
go, if need be I'll get in touch with Marisa and see if I can have a
look at the server myself.

That's okay, we will wait and see what Marisa has to say

it would be good if you can have a close look at it or I might have to go ftn

You could go FTN but I don't reccomend that with Synchronet. If QWK
nodes are having trouble that would affect FTN also so we'd want to
solve that along with anything else needing a look so it works as
expected all around.

Okay I just wait and see if we can fix this ok

Ian S 1st Choice Core Nz
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Re: Re: Gamenet Qwk not connectin
By: Blue White to Al on Thu Nov 12 2020 11:17 am

IIRC, that error can happen if the hub is taking too long to create the packet, i.e. there are too many messages waiting. It can also happen if the hub has another event "hung" (like a binkit event) that won't allow the QWK packet to be packed.

Yep, it seems there is a problem so we'll need to get to the bottom of that.

Are you a gamenet node, and do you see any issues?

Yes I am and, now that you mention it, yes I am! I am also seeing the
timeout issues reported by the other sysop.



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