What's anyone using to make their web pages these days? I find I still end up crafting my with a text editor, having never quite gotten my head around the wysiwyg editors. Mind you its been a long time since I looked at one, you appeared to need a degree in rocket science to use it.

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Re: HTML
By: Spectre to Anyone on Wed Dec 18 2019 10:38 pm

What's anyone using to make their web pages these days? I find I still

I use hexo - you can find "templates", and the content is edited using a markdown editor. Once you have edited your content you "hexo generate", and it creates the static web pages.

In mycase, I commit my website to gitlab, and a CI task creates the webpages. I
do this both for alterant.leenooks.net and spdocker.static.leenooks.net. ...deon


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Spectre wrote to Anyone <=-

What's anyone using to make their web pages these days? I find I still end up crafting my with a text editor, having never quite gotten my
head around the wysiwyg editors. Mind you its been a long time since I looked at one, you appeared to need a degree in rocket science to use
it.

I use Kompozer for one-off pages, but most of my "content" goes into Wordpress, which does the formatting for me.

I've been known to knock up pages in Microsoft Word, but only when I'm not going to have to change/update them. Yeesh.


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Alterego wrote to Spectre <=-

I use hexo - you can find "templates", and the content is edited using
a markdown editor. Once you have edited your content you "hexo
generate", and it creates the static web pages.

Oh, dear - now I have more things to investigate, and less time to do so...

Wordpress is overkill for a couple of sites I have, I've been looking for something like this to set up a one or two-page site with.


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On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 22:38:00 +1100
"Spectre -> Anyone" <0@101.3.21> wrote:

What's anyone using to make their web pages these days?

Hugo

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What's anyone using to make their web pages these days? I find I still end up crafting my with a text editor, having never quite gotten my head around the wysiwyg editors. Mind you its been a long time since I
looked at one, you appeared to need a degree in rocket science to use it.

I just use vs code or some other IDE and try to leverage things like twitter bootstrap which takes a lot of the guesswork out of creating a decent layout.

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On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 22:38:00 +1100
"Spectre -> Anyone" <0@101.3.21> wrote:

What's anyone using to make their web pages these days?

Hugo

Jekyll for me.


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Spectre around Wednesday, December 18th...

What's anyone using to make their web pages these days? I find I still end up crafting my with a text editor, having never quite gotten my head around the wysiwyg editors. Mind you its been a long time since I looked at one, you appeared to need a degree in rocket science to use it.

I have a blog running Ghost.js, but plan on moving to Hexo (really, I haven't yet due to lazyness). Both are pretty simple, but Hexo generates static sites which is more what I want and need (and more akin to typing one by hand, but without the busy work).



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On 18 Dec 19 22:38:00, Spectre said the following to Anyone:

What's anyone using to make their web pages these days? I find I still end crafting my with a text editor, having never quite gotten my head around the wysiwyg editors. Mind you its been a long time since I looked at one, you appeared to need a degree in rocket science to use it.

Vi.

8-)

Atreyu

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Vi.
8-)

Well I might argue with you about vi, a more depressing editor I've never seen :) However I'm with you on the theory of mangling them by hand.

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Hugo

Jekyll for me.

Dr Jekyll and Mr Hugo? :P


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On 19 Dec 19 07:16:00, Spectre said the following to Atreyu:

Vi.
8-)

Well I might argue with you about vi, a more depressing editor I've never se :) However I'm with you on the theory of mangling them by hand.

Hence the smiley... Vi is a real joy to work with, especially when the Insert key or something stupid has been accidently pressed.

Atreyu

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On 18 Dec 2019, Spectre said the following...

What's anyone using to make their web pages these days? I find I still end up crafting my with a text editor, having never quite gotten my head

Notepad++ generally if I'm not doing something Wordpress based.

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Hugo

Jekyll for me.

Dr Jekyll and Mr Hugo? :P

There is also Hyde (a Jekyll clone written in Python instead of Ruby)


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What's anyone using to make their web pages these days? I find I
still end up
crafting my with a text editor, having never quite gotten my head
around the
wysiwyg editors. Mind you its been a long time since I looked at one,
you
appeared to need a degree in rocket science to use it.

Spec

I write any content in Markdown and then render my website with Jekyll, a quite
nice software to render static html web sites. Not that user friendly though but if you give it an hour or two you will get the hang of it.


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I write any content in Markdown and then render my website with Jekyll, a quite nice software to render static html web sites. Not that user friendly though but if you give it an hour or two you will get the
hang of it.

Another blast from the past :) I'm still hand mangling and checking results in
a browser.

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I write any content in Markdown and then render my website with Jekyll, a

quite nice software to render static html web sites. Not that user
friendly though but if you give it an hour or two you will get the
hang of it.

Another blast from the past :) I'm still hand mangling and checking results in
a browser.

Spec

I have completely given up on Wordpress and the like. It's easy to get started with a Wordpress-based website but pretty soon you're very far down the hole with plugins, security exploits and performance issues. Just too much work. Going static only is the way IMHO - there is no attack surface since there is no code being executed to render the website.


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far down the hole with plugins, security exploits and performance
issues. Just too much work. Going static only is the way IMHO -
there is no attack surface since there is no code being executed
to render the website.

With you there, and while my sites have historically been static, they don't make for good information dissemination if you're sitting on a database. I've got two which are actually related...

http://pineapple.zapto.org/library
http://pineapple.zapto.org/hard.shtml

I don't think I could manage that with static pages...one's a list of all Apple
II expansion cards for identification purposed with links to drivers and manuals if available. The other is a list of technotes, books, usergroup newsletters, manuals etc...

This and tlp.zapto.org are probably the two most convoluted sites I've come up with. I dread revisiting the database work, I know its already obsolete and unsupported if I upgrade.

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far down the hole with plugins, security exploits and performance
issues. Just too much work. Going static only is the way IMHO -
there is no attack surface since there is no code being executed
to render the website.

With you there, and while my sites have historically been static, they don't
make for good information dissemination if you're sitting on a
database. I've
got two which are actually related...

http://pineapple.zapto.org/library
http://pineapple.zapto.org/hard.shtml

I don't think I could manage that with static pages...one's a list of
all Apple
II expansion cards for identification purposed with links to drivers
and
manuals if available. The other is a list of technotes, books,
usergroup
newsletters, manuals etc...

This and tlp.zapto.org are probably the two most convoluted sites I've
come up
with. I dread revisiting the database work, I know its already
obsolete and
unsupported if I upgrade.

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You could generate static pages from the database on a regular basis or whenever they need updating.


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You could generate static pages from the database on a regular basis
or whenever they need updating.

Woah... that'd be a lot of pages, more like gopher... I'm sure it could be done, but it doesn't seem like it'd be worth it, or my sketchy skill set up to the task. Initially there was a lot of updating going on.. these days its more like if I spot someone asking a question and I've never seen the card before...
The library only tends to get additions if I've sucked in something new to look at.. or gone looking for something card related.

if I were going to have truly static pages... I'd probably require somewhere in
the order of a thousand or so. Maybe less if I could figure out a dynamically assigned size for an iframe.

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"Spectre -> Joacim Melin" <0@101.3.21> wrote:

You could generate static pages from the database on a regular
basis or whenever they need updating.

Woah... that'd be a lot of pages, more like gopher... I'm sure it
could be done, but it doesn't seem like it'd be worth it, or my
sketchy skill set up to the task. Initially there was a lot of
updating going on.. these days its more like if I spot someone asking
a question and I've never seen the card before... The library only
tends to get additions if I've sucked in something new to look at..
or gone looking for something card related.

if I were going to have truly static pages... I'd probably require somewhere in the order of a thousand or so. Maybe less if I could
figure out a dynamically assigned size for an iframe.

Nowadays you can server static HTML files with Javascript and fetch the data on
demand. But make sure your Javascript is a slow mess than consumes a lot of memory and doesn't work well on older computers or phones (I've forgotten the reasons why, but Facebook, Google and others have to be right ...)

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Nowadays you can server static HTML files with Javascript and fetch
the data on demand. But make sure your Javascript is a slow mess
than consumes a lot of memory and doesn't work well on older
computers or phones (I've forgotten the reasons why, but Facebook,
Google and others have to be right ...)

Anyone using a phone gets what they deserve I reckon. :) But there is nothing like a melting blancmange site... especially the ones that end up having nothing useful. Do cruddy PHP scripts count? I can throw those in free.

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Nowadays you can server static HTML files with Javascript and fetch the data on demand. But make sure your Javascript is a slow mess than
consumes a lot of memory and doesn't work well on older computers or phones (I've forgotten the reasons why, but Facebook, Google and others have to be right ...)

I like using things like node.js on the backend for this type of work. Event loops work wonders for backend web dev.

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Anyone using a phone gets what they deserve I reckon. :) But there is nothing like a melting blancmange site... especially the ones that end
up having nothing useful. Do cruddy PHP scripts count? I can throw
those in free.

While I tend to agree re: phone, we have to probably accept that much of the world is connected to the internet only through phones.

That said, I use my iPad constantly. I'm on the go all the time and it's such
a quick and easy way to do 90% of what I'd otherwise do with a laptop, except it's much more convenient.

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Spectre wrote to Joacim Melin <=-

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WOW! An oldie! :)

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WOW! An oldie! :)

You better believe it :)


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