So,

I'm taking a break from BBSing, and what to do, I'll write an offline mail reader.

:-/

If you want to have a play, I uploaded a windows installer here:

http://andrew.pamment.id.au/files/TitanMailSetup.exe

It's a QT application so it should compile on anything that has QT.

It's only basic QWK, no QWK-E or fancy pants synchronet extensions :)

The git repo is here if you want to compile it:

https://gitlab.com/apamment/TitanMail

it should be a matter of:

qmake

make

It's very simple, I only started it last night, and it probably won't be getting a whole lot more complicated either. I'm sure there's lots of bugs.

I just wanted a mail reader with a GUI. That's the only reason for this.

Andrew

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... TitanMail/netbsd

--- Mystic BBS/QWK v1.12 A46 2020/05/28 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Hello apam!

** On Tuesday 28.07.20 - 00:52, apam wrote to All:

https://gitlab.com/apamment/TitanMail

It's very simple, I only started it last night, and it probably won't be getting a whole lot more complicated either. I'm sure there's lots of
bugs.

I just wanted a mail reader with a GUI. That's the only reason for this.

Have you tried SemPoint? It is a fine 16-bit based Windows program.

-=} SemPoint v2.26 for Windows {=-
SemPoint is the 1st Offline Reader for
Windows useful to both BBS Users and to
FidoNet Points (or Sysops). It can
handle QWK, BlueWave, Mc-Link's X)press
and Usenet newsgroups mail packets, as
well as permanent message bases in *.MSG
(Fido), Hudson, Squish, JAM end EzyCom
formats! EASY to use, but powerful!
Built-in zip/unzip, UUEncode/Decode,
PGP shell, Rich Text display feature,
message sorting, TIC generator.
Multilingual: English, Italian, French,
Spanish, Catalan, Swedish, German and
Dutch editions available!

One place where it is available: http://archives.thebbs.org/

I created a little 2min video on what it looks like:

http://kolico.ca/fidonet/files/sempoint-preview.zip

I go over the menu and reveal some options and settings. You will see a
lot of familiar BBS terms and features that this point/QWK program can implement.

(It is my very first screen recording, ever, on my XP laptop, and with an unfamiliar program, so forgive me if it isn't elegant. The recording has a minor video artifact, but it does not obscure anything important.)

It works very well as a standalone QWK program. Unlike other QWK programs, this one stores the messages in Squish filebases, so that you can add multiple qwk packets without manipulating individual qwk files.


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I'm taking a break from BBSing, and what to do, I'll write an offline
mail reader.

I did think about commenting on that when I saw your test post.

I'm beginning to think that you're twice the coder I am (skills aside, as I would assume those are also superior), as when I'm burned out on stuff, my GitHub history is going to be pretty white (rather than green, which
indicates some level of commits on that day).

Currently, though, I'm working on... four? different projects.

But I imagine that'll plummet once I go to Germany and/or start my job that I've been waiting on for basically a year. (But, hey, evidently I qualify for
a Blue Card, if only "non-essential" Americans were allowed to enter
Germany.).

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On Mon Jul 27 19:39:00 2020, Adept wrote to apam <=-

I'm taking a break from BBSing, and what to do, I'll write an offline mail reader.

I did think about commenting on that when I saw your test post.

:)

I'm beginning to think that you're twice the coder I am (skills aside, as I would assume those are also superior), as when I'm burned out on stuff, my GitHub history is going to be pretty white (rather than green, which indicates some level of commits on that day).

I don't know about that. I just have plenty of free time.

Currently, though, I'm working on... four? different projects.

Cool, whatchya working on ? :)

But I imagine that'll plummet once I go to Germany and/or start my job that I've been waiting on for basically a year. (But, hey, evidently I qualify

for

a Blue Card, if only "non-essential" Americans were allowed to enter Germany.).

Blue Card? Here that means you have passed police checks and can work with children.. is it similar? or something like a green card but can go the other way?

You must have very patient employers in Germany. What's the job entail?

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--- Mystic BBS/QWK v1.12 A46 2020/05/28 (Windows/32)
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On Mon Jul 27 09:46:00 2020, Ogg wrote to apam <=-

Have you tried SemPoint? It is a fine 16-bit based Windows program.

No. I'm sure it's wonderful, but a 16-bit windows program isn't much use to me.

Andrew
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Currently, though, I'm working on... four? different projects.

Cool, whatchya working on ? :)

1. Web-app sort of page to help people play a version of CharDeeMcDennis (It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia drinking game), which works as far as was ever directly requested, but now I've added cards, moving the game in the
direction of something that can be played by people when out at bars when/if the world returns to something pre-apocalypse-like.

2. A simple webpage for/about my dad, who's terminally ill. So celebrating
some of his interests, as well as family and whatnot.

3. A simple webpage for my BBS (to be fair, it's mostly simple because I'm
kind of at a loss as to what to put on a page for my BBS. Currently it's an HTML 3.0 page that has just the basics (stormbbs.com), with a link to an fTelnet page (bbs.stormbbs.com), and it seems like I should do more with it.

4. ANSI calendar program for Mystic. It's a Python script, so different than xqtr's, but mostly I wanted an easy way to add ANSIs, and writing my own
seemed like the simplest solution (and good practice). But now I'm making 1-3 ANSIs on most days. I'm up to 21 (with one from LDA from mistigris), aiming
for about 400 in total.

I was also contemplating learning Unity, as there's reason to think it might
be something useful to know at my future job, and it might be interesting to use to make another demo (hopefully people know what the demoscene is). Eventually I'll go back to that, as I enjoyed making my first demo. But it's odd at this point, as I expected to have gone to multiple demo parties in Europe this year, but...

And I do still have an Arduino laying around that's fun to fiddle with, but haven't touched in a while in favor of those listed projects.

Blue Card? Here that means you have passed police checks and can work with children.. is it similar? or something like a green card but can
go the other way?

Yeah, "something like the green card" is probably a pretty good explanation. It's a visa where you have to make over a certain amount in order to qualify for it -- less if it's in an in-demand field, of which tech jobs generally qualify.

So I was given an offer that was just over the minimum required to get a 2020 Blue Card, and generally it's a pretty quick approval -- mine was originally slower because of having been in Germany before, so I assume they wanted to check for any red flags. So far as I can tell, they didn't find any.

One of the other nice aspects of the Blue Card is that it's possible to get
a "permanent resident" visa after 21 months, if you can prove B1 language abilities. I took a test for such a thing at the college I went to in Darmstadt, so hopefully I'm already good on that count. Though hopefully my German ability improves over 21 months in country.

You must have very patient employers in Germany. What's the job entail?

I think it might also be the speed of the company, as my first contact was
some period of time after sending off an application (maybe a month, but I'm having difficulty tracking down my original application), and they set an interview date that was a month in the future.

But, indeed, I've been scared at various times that the job would fall
through. Still a worry, I suppose, but I'm less worried than I was.

Anyway, the job is being a junior developer. But they asked about whether or not I was able to drive, so it sounds like I'll wind up going to various
plants that they automate. All in all, it _sounds_ like interesting embedded systems stuff, so I'll see. I don't really know what I'm getting into -- just that my realistic-ideal job was a) in Germany, b) junior developer, and c) embedded systems, and I didn't have to compromise on any of those.

I don't know about that. I just have plenty of free time.

There have been so many times that I've had plenty of free time, and didn't accomplish anything remotely useful. I know that much of what I wind up doing currently isn't especially useful (e.g., _anything_ involving BBSs), but if
I'm making progress on projects I tend to feel generally good about what I accomplished in a day, even if I didn't deal with some thing I'm procrastinating on.

So I figure if you're using your free time to productively do some hobby coding, that's pretty solid. Better than only doing social media and watching videos. And, honestly, even just doing those things is reasonable enough with the pandemic going on. Low bar and all, since it's tough on everyone. Well, maybe not in New Zealand at this point.

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apam wrote to All <=-

I'm taking a break from BBSing, and what to do, I'll write an offline
mail reader.

LOL!

If you want to have a play, I uploaded a windows installer here: http://andrew.pamment.id.au/files/TitanMailSetup.exe
It's a QT application so it should compile on anything that has QT.
It's only basic QWK, no QWK-E or fancy pants synchronet extensions :)

I need the fancy stuff. Bluewave. ;) Just can't deal with the lack of
area names for some reason. hahahaha

I will grab it and check it out though just cause.

Shawn

... Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue.

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On Tue Jul 28 10:30:00 2020, Tiny wrote to apam <=-

apam wrote to All <=-

I'm taking a break from BBSing, and what to do, I'll write an offline mail reader.

LOL!

Hah. This is my fourth go at writing this email... apparently there was a bug on linux. Who knows why it works on FreeBSD and NetBSD and Windows.

I need the fancy stuff. Bluewave. ;) Just can't deal with the lack of
area names for some reason. hahahaha

I need that stuff too I think. I might add QWK-E support rather than bluewave, but I want to get the interface the way I like it first.

I will grab it and check it out though just cause.

Have Fun! I'm up to version 1.0.3 now, with adjustable fonts, and sortable columns. Yay!

Seeya!

Andrew

=== TitanMail/linux v1.0.3

--- Mystic BBS/QWK v1.12 A46 2020/05/28 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Hello apam!

** On Wednesday 29.07.20 - 00:04, apam wrote to Tiny:

I'm taking a break from BBSing, and what to do, I'll write an offline
mail reader.

I need that stuff too I think. I might add QWK-E support rather than bluewave, but I want to get the interface the way I like it first.

I always thought the longer characters limit in QWK-E was a nice
improvement.

Have Fun! I'm up to version 1.0.3 now, with adjustable fonts, and sortable columns. Yay!

Do you have any screenshots that you can share?


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2. A simple webpage for/about my dad, who's terminally ill. So
celebrating some of his interests, as well as family and whatnot.

You don't have to share, but if you do I'd certainly read...

3. A simple webpage for my BBS (to be fair, it's mostly simple because
I'm kind of at a loss as to what to put on a page for my BBS. Currently it's an HTML 3.0 page that has just the basics (stormbbs.com), with a
link to an fTelnet page (bbs.stormbbs.com), and it seems like I should
do more with it.

I loaded stormbbs.com ... I want to do something with my board, too... but dunno what. Some of the BBSes out there (rocksolidbbs.com) has their message FTN/QWKs on HTML and do it well... and some have a splash screen, or some
combo of those and others. Some I download my files on their webpages
because.. you know, technology and all. :P But anywho; is adding an fTelnet
(or other telnet over HTML) function easy enough? Any tips/guides that you followed or left? I do want to be able to tell rookies how to login w/o any software on their end...
I bookmarked stormbbs.com and will check again to see your changes. :P

4. ANSI calendar program for Mystic. It's a Python script, so different than xqtr's, but mostly I wanted an easy way to add ANSIs, and writing
my own seemed like the simplest solution (and good practice). But now
I'm making 1-3 ANSIs on most days. I'm up to 21 (with one from LDA from mistigris), aiming for about 400 in total.

This sounds cool, I saw you post about it... and I'll check it out IF it is released. :P w00t w00t!



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2. A simple webpage for/about my dad, who's terminally ill. So celebrating some of his interests, as well as family and whatnot.

You don't have to share, but if you do I'd certainly read...

I'll send a netmail with the address. It's probably fine to share regardless, but it's a step more personal than other things I've shared.

adding an fTelnet (or other telnet over HTML) function easy enough? Any tips/guides that you followed or left? I do want to be able to tell rookies how to login w/o any software on their end...

I think it's fairly straightforward, because you can go to the fTelnet
website and enter the needed info, and you'll have what you need in order to put up the page.

The complicated bit was probably figuring out how to get a customized ANSI screen. And I don't entirely remember what exactly the issues were.

This sounds cool, I saw you post about it... and I'll check it out IF it is released. :P w00t w00t!

Eh, for now it's something special for my BBS - I made it part of the login process. Perhaps I'll release it eventually, but as it is I'd be sending out updates every day, what with all the ANSIs. That said, it's all in a non-private GitHub repository, so it'd be easy enough to copy.

Regardless, thanks for the feedback and kind words.

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* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)

apam wrote to Tiny <=-

Hah. This is my fourth go at writing this email... apparently there was
a bug on linux. Who knows why it works on FreeBSD and NetBSD and
Windows.

That is strange.

I need that stuff too I think. I might add QWK-E support rather than bluewave, but I want to get the interface the way I like it first.

Yes that's important as the main reason you're writing this is for
the interface!

Have Fun! I'm up to version 1.0.3 now, with adjustable fonts, and
sortable columns. Yay!

Nice. I had a quick play with it. (Was probably the first version)
and it worked on my computer. I didn't do much as I didn't have any
mail to download. Will try again later with a packet from another board.

Shawn

... Tech support is just a busy signal away...

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On Wed Jul 29 09:14:00 2020, Tiny wrote to apam <=-

I need that stuff too I think. I might add QWK-E support rather than bluewave, but I want to get the interface the way I like it first.

Yes that's important as the main reason you're writing this is for
the interface!

Yeah I suppose. I got those slider things to work, now you can slide the side bar and the message viewer like in an email client.

I also added QWK-E, it wasn't actually all that hard.

Nice. I had a quick play with it. (Was probably the first version)
and it worked on my computer. I didn't do much as I didn't have any
mail to download. Will try again later with a packet from another board.

I imagine you're on windows yeah? I realized if I included another qt dll it looks much more up to date, rather than the classic ui style.

Andrew

=== TitanMail/linux v1.0.5

--- Mystic BBS/QWK v1.12 A46 2020/05/28 (Windows/32)
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Quoting Apam to Tiny at 07-29-20 00:04 <=-

I need the fancy stuff. Bluewave. ;) Just can't deal with the lack of
area names for some reason. hahahaha

I need that stuff too I think. I might add QWK-E support rather than bluewave, but I want to get the interface the way I like it first.

Bluewave is much more advanced than QWK-E. It would be really great
if anyone develop a new Bluewave Door for Mystic and Synchronet, or
modify the old BW Doors for new systems. And a modern reader too.

I will grab it and check it out though just cause.

Have Fun! I'm up to version 1.0.3 now, with adjustable fonts, and
sortable columns. Yay!

:-))



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I think it's fairly straightforward, because you can go to the fTelnet website and enter the needed info, and you'll have what you need in
order to put up the page.

Thats fine - I can figure out how; just knowing that its a simple enough process does me well.

Eh, for now it's something special for my BBS - I made it part of the login process. Perhaps I'll release it eventually, but as it is I'd be sending out updates every day, what with all the ANSIs. That said, it's all in a non-private GitHub repository, so it'd be easy enough to copy.

Regardless, thanks for the feedback and kind words.

Thats cool - I guess what I need to do is get on over to you board and login. :P I'll do that sometime in the near future. Cheers.



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Mauro Veiga wrote to APAM <=-

I need that stuff too I think. I might add QWK-E support rather than bluewave, but I want to get the interface the way I like it first.

Bluewave is much more advanced than QWK-E. It would be
really great if anyone develop a new Bluewave Door for Mystic and Synchronet, or modify the old BW Doors for new systems. And a modern reader too.

The (modern) MultiMail reader supports the BW format.



... Forbidden fruit is responsible for many a bad jam.
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On 07-27-20 09:46, Ogg wrote to apam <=-

Have you tried SemPoint? It is a fine 16-bit based Windows program.

And it runs well under WineVDM on Win64, so the 16 bit need not be a deterrant, even if you're a 64 bit only setup like me.. :)


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On 07-28-20 12:22, apam wrote to Ogg <=-

On Mon Jul 27 09:46:00 2020, Ogg wrote to apam <=-

Have you tried SemPoint? It is a fine 16-bit based Windows program.

No. I'm sure it's wonderful, but a 16-bit windows program isn't much
use to me.

Probably runs under Wine. ;)


... Don't you just love a tag line that references itself; like this one?
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On 07-29-20 10:19, Mauro Veiga wrote to APAM <=-

Bluewave is much more advanced than QWK-E. It would be really
great
if anyone develop a new Bluewave Door for Mystic and Synchronet,
or
modify the old BW Doors for new systems. And a modern reader too.

For Synchronet, the way to go would be Javascript, and similarly, go with the native MPL or MPY on Mystic. Modifying old doors is too DOS centric, and many of us run systems that are fundamentally incompatible with DOS doors. But that said, a Bluewave door for these systems would be nice.


... Taglines: the toilet-stall walls of BBSdom.
=== MultiMail/Win v0.51
--- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
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adding an fTelnet (or other telnet over HTML) function easy enough?

Any

tips/guides that you followed or left? I do want to be able to tell rookies how to login w/o any software on their end...

The complicated bit was probably figuring out how to get a customized ANSI screen. And I don't entirely remember what exactly the issues were.

Chuckle, that bit was interesting... you need to reduce your entire ANSI screen to a hexadecimal string. No idea why, its just how they do it.

You can also use ftelnetproxy to set up a local proxy to point back to yourself, rather than use the exterior proxy. This wasn't that hard to manage.

Spec


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On Wed Jul 29 10:19:00 2020, Mauro Veiga wrote to APAM <=-

Quoting Apam to Tiny at 07-29-20 00:04 <=-

I need the fancy stuff. Bluewave. ;) Just can't deal with the lack of
area names for some reason. hahahaha

I need that stuff too I think. I might add QWK-E support rather than bluewave, but I want to get the interface the way I like it first.

Bluewave is much more advanced than QWK-E. It would be really great
if anyone develop a new Bluewave Door for Mystic and Synchronet, or
modify the old BW Doors for new systems. And a modern reader too.

If you say so. I don't think it's any more advanced, better designed, yes.
It doesn't really do that much more than what you can do with QWK-E.

I'm sure about 3 people would be super excited for a bluewave door for
mystic and synchronet, but the amount of work to write a door that supports
2 completley different message base formats, it's not going to happen.

It would be much less work if it was built in to the BBS system as you could take advantage of their message base apis - I'm sure if you did the work
Rob would pull it in, mystic on the other hand...

Maybe it could be done with JavaScript as a Mod on Synchronet, and for
that matter maybe as an MPL.

Anyway, I'm not doing it.

Andrew

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apam wrote to Tiny <=-

Yeah I suppose. I got those slider things to work, now you can slide
the side bar and the message viewer like in an email client.

Nice.

I also added QWK-E, it wasn't actually all that hard.

Considering you've added that stuff to the BBS end before it was
probably pretty easy for you. :)

I imagine you're on windows yeah? I realized if I included another qt
dll it looks much more up to date, rather than the classic ui style.

Yes I am. I'm just at that point in my life where windows is good
enough.

Shawn

... Extreme sorrow laughs; extreme joy weeps.

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Apam wrote to Mauro Veiga <=-

If you say so. I don't think it's any more advanced, better designed,
yes. It doesn't really do that much more than what you can do with
QWK-E.

I've used both, and either are fine. Reason I stick with bluewave
is because it's what Ezycom supports. The QWK isn't qwk-e I don't
think.

It would be much less work if it was built in to the BBS system as you could take advantage of their message base apis - I'm sure if you did
the work Rob would pull it in, mystic on the other hand...

Reminds me of the time you added bluewave to MagickaBBS in what an hour or
something? ;)

Anyway, I'm not doing it.

Honestly it seems like a recipe for burn out to tackle that. You'd have
to deal with the fidonet fools complaining about stupid crap no one
cares about since 1985.

Shawn

... Jesus loves you. I don't. Get out of my way.

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Quoting Gamgee to Mauro Veiga at 07-29-20 21:43 <=-

Mauro Veiga wrote to APAM <=-

I need that stuff too I think. I might add QWK-E support rather than bluewave, but I want to get the interface the way I like it first.

Bluewave is much more advanced than QWK-E. It would be
really great if anyone develop a new Bluewave Door for Mystic and Synchronet, or modify the old BW Doors for new systems. And a modern reader too.

The (modern) MultiMail reader supports the BW format.

I know. But don't exist a modern BW door.



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Quoting Vk3jed to Mauro Veiga at 07-30-20 14:11 <=-

On 07-29-20 10:19, Mauro Veiga wrote to APAM <=-

Bluewave is much more advanced than QWK-E. It would be really
great
if anyone develop a new Bluewave Door for Mystic and Synchronet,
or
modify the old BW Doors for new systems. And a modern reader too.

For Synchronet, the way to go would be Javascript, and similarly, go
with the native MPL or MPY on Mystic. Modifying old doors is too DOS centric, and many of us run systems that are fundamentally incompatible with DOS doors. But that said, a Bluewave door for these systems would
be nice.

Yes! A BW door or OLMS style would be great.



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Quoting Apam to Mauro Veiga at 07-30-20 19:01 <=-

If you say so. I don't think it's any more advanced, better designed,
yes. It doesn't really do that much more than what you can do with
QWK-E.

I'm sure about 3 people would be super excited for a bluewave door for mystic and synchronet, but the amount of work to write a door that supports 2 completley different message base formats, it's not going to happen.

+1 :-)

It would be much less work if it was built in to the BBS system as you could take advantage of their message base apis - I'm sure if you did
the work Rob would pull it in, mystic on the other hand...

Rob was not interested, unfortunately.
It was a shame that George Hatchew did not release the BlueWave
source code.

Maybe it could be done with JavaScript as a Mod on Synchronet, and for that matter maybe as an MPL.

Anyway, I'm not doing it.

Ok. If you change your mind let us know. ;-)


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On Thu Jul 30 10:36:00 2020, Tiny wrote to Apam <=-

I've used both, and either are fine. Reason I stick with bluewave
is because it's what Ezycom supports. The QWK isn't qwk-e I don't
think.

Ah ok. I haven't tried downloading a QWK packet from your BBS yet. I was going to but I was tired and couldn't be bothered figuring out the subscribing system. :P

It would be much less work if it was built in to the BBS system as you could take advantage of their message base apis - I'm sure if you did the work Rob would pull it in, mystic on the other hand...

Reminds me of the time you added bluewave to MagickaBBS in what an hour or
something? ;)

Did I? I don't remember. lol.

Andrew

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On Thu Jul 30 10:13:00 2020, Tiny wrote to apam <=-

Considering you've added that stuff to the BBS end before it was
probably pretty easy for you. :)

It was pretty easy, not so much because I've done it on the BBS end, but the parts of QWK-E I wanted - long subject lines etc are very simple, ie they're just kludges at the top of the messages. The long area names I didn't even have
to do anything.

I haven't looked at subscribing / unsubscribing to areas from the reader, that would be interesting.

Yes I am. I'm just at that point in my life where windows is good
enough.

Hehe. I'm at that point where everything on computers is crap so I have to work
out which is least crap to use :P

I have windows 10 for playing games and compiling windows things, it's ok. Linux is ok I suppose, but I really don't like the politics around it... BSD is
ok, but everyone writes sloppy programs for linux so they don't always work on anything but linux.

Or perhaps not so much sloppyness as it is politics about using things like systemd etc and not being portable.

Anyway, I've had a few beers tonight :-/ so I'm in a complainy mood lol

Andrew

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On 30 Jul 2020, Spectre said the following...

The complicated bit was probably figuring out how to get a customized screen. And I don't entirely remember what exactly the issues were.

Chuckle, that bit was interesting... you need to reduce your entire ANSI screen to a hexadecimal string. No idea why, its just how they do it.

You can use the "new" v2 embed portal and it'll convert your ANSI for you
along with everything else.

http://embed-v2.ftelnet.ca

Jay

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On 30 Jul 2020, Tiny said the following...

Honestly it seems like a recipe for burn out to tackle that. You'd
have to deal with the fidonet fools complaining about stupid crap no one cares about since 1985.

*gasp* This message doesn't have a CHRS kludge! /s

Jay

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You can use the "new" v2 embed portal and it'll convert your ANSI

Don't think it was there, when I installed, but good to know going forward.

Spec


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Apam wrote to Tiny <=-

Ah ok. I haven't tried downloading a QWK packet from your BBS yet. I
was going to but I was tired and couldn't be bothered figuring out the subscribing system. :P

Laugh. Tag some areas and you're done. Similar to MagickaBBS.

Reminds me of the time you added bluewave to MagickaBBS in what an hour or
something? ;)

Did I? I don't remember. lol.

Yeah you had it done in no time at all. I hadn't even walked away from the
computer yet and you emailed back saying basic support was added.

Shawn

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Apam wrote to Tiny <=-

It was pretty easy, not so much because I've done it on the BBS end,
but the parts of QWK-E I wanted - long subject lines etc are very
simple, ie they're just kludges at the top of the messages. The long
area names I didn't even have to do anything.

Oh that's good. Having always used bluewave I never looked into the specs
of QWK-E. I also wrote a soup/yarn doo dad for Maximus back a million years
ago. I can't remember why now.

I haven't looked at subscribing / unsubscribing to areas from the
reader, that would be interesting.

It's a handy feature to be sure. I do know ezycom supports that.

Hehe. I'm at that point where everything on computers is crap so I have
to work out which is least crap to use :P

Exactly.

I have windows 10 for playing games and compiling windows things, it's

Playing games, and watching youtube videos is all I really do other then
offline mail.

Anyway, I've had a few beers tonight :-/ so I'm in a complainy mood lol

Laugh, I did the same yesterday and now just waking up for work. :(

Shawn

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On 07-30-20 09:34, Mauro Veiga wrote to VK3JED <=-

For Synchronet, the way to go would be Javascript, and similarly, go
with the native MPL or MPY on Mystic. Modifying old doors is too DOS centric, and many of us run systems that are fundamentally incompatible with DOS doors. But that said, a Bluewave door for these systems would
be nice.

Yes! A BW door or OLMS style would be great.

All it takes is a programmer who wants to scratch that particular itch. ;)


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On Fri Jul 31 08:34:00 2020, Tiny wrote to Apam <=-

Oh that's good. Having always used bluewave I never looked into the specs
of QWK-E. I also wrote a soup/yarn doo dad for Maximus back a million

years

ago. I can't remember why now.

I don't know anything about soup/yarn except that it exists and is a thing.

I haven't looked at subscribing / unsubscribing to areas from the reader, that would be interesting.

It's a handy feature to be sure. I do know ezycom supports that.

I can see it being useful, there's all sorts of things like twitting people from the reader rescanning messages etc.

Playing games, and watching youtube videos is all I really do other then
offline mail.

I've never really got into you tube. My mum watches it quiet a bit, occasionally I will find a tutorial on it that I watch.

Andrew

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On Fri Jul 31 08:31:00 2020, Tiny wrote to Apam <=-

Apam wrote to Tiny <=-

Ah ok. I haven't tried downloading a QWK packet from your BBS yet. I was going to but I was tired and couldn't be bothered figuring out the subscribing system. :P

Laugh. Tag some areas and you're done. Similar to MagickaBBS.

I'll have another go tomorrow. Getting late again :)

Reminds me of the time you added bluewave to MagickaBBS in what an hour

or

something? ;)

Did I? I don't remember. lol.

Yeah you had it done in no time at all. I hadn't even walked away from

the

computer yet and you emailed back saying basic support was added.

lol, spent today adding qwk downloading to titan, took way more than an hour, must be getting slow. Still have to do uploading.

I'm not really very good at this "Taking a break from BBSing". Ah well.


Andrew

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Quoting Vk3jed to Mauro Veiga at 07-31-20 18:49 <=-

On 07-30-20 09:34, Mauro Veiga wrote to VK3JED <=-

For Synchronet, the way to go would be Javascript, and similarly, go
with the native MPL or MPY on Mystic. Modifying old doors is too DOS centric, and many of us run systems that are fundamentally incompatible with DOS doors. But that said, a Bluewave door for these systems would
be nice.

Yes! A BW door or OLMS style would be great.

All it takes is a programmer who wants to scratch that particular
itch. ;)

Yeah! :-)

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Re: TitanMail
By: apam to All on Tue Jul 28 2020 12:52 am

I'm taking a break from BBSing, and what to do, I'll write an offline mail reader.

Sorry that you got burned out, but the offline mail reader program is very appreciated. Thank you for your efforts.
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Apam wrote to Tiny <=-

Laugh. Tag some areas and you're done. Similar to MagickaBBS.

I'll have another go tomorrow. Getting late again :)

No worries.

lol, spent today adding qwk downloading to titan, took way more than an hour, must be getting slow. Still have to do uploading.

Laugh.

I'm not really very good at this "Taking a break from BBSing". Ah well.

I was just going to say something like that.

Shawn

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On 07-31-20 10:38, Mauro Veiga wrote to VK3JED <=-

Yes! A BW door or OLMS style would be great.

All it takes is a programmer who wants to scratch that particular
itch. ;)

Yeah! :-)

Unfortunately, thay seem to be in short supply! :)


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