• wear a mask or you get shot

    From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Adept on Friday, July 24, 2020 20:34:00
    Hello Adept!

    ** On Friday 24.07.20 - 18:09, Adept wrote to The Godfather:

    And, to be fair, my first, "reminding myself that this is a no-politics zone" post was in response to a post where someone talked about their thoughts on their governor. Which is probably what I should've quoted, rather than the, "I won't wear a mask" bit, which strikes me as a, "I
    won't take a cab home after drinking" argument.

    I disagree with your last example. If drunk, then yes.. it is stupid to drive. But your comparison wrt masks only assumes that the person is infectious. If a person is perfectly healthy, then there is no need to
    wear a mask. If I am in a room with another person or persons whom I
    *know* are covid-negative, then there is no need to wear masks.

    The "authorities" have turned everyone to be suspicious of one another and have made us assume that everyone is infectious. And *that* is a bad.

    I still see people wearing masks and there are no other people within 50 feet! I see people wearing masks while driving, and they are the only
    person on the car! Many people are NOT understanding the real point of wearing a mask.

    I don't need to wear a mask if I am the only person in my shop. I don't
    need to wear a mask if I can maintain the 6ft "rule" between someone in my shop.

    This mask business only assumes that the wearer is infectious. Unless my eyes are blocked or shielded, a mask on someone else may not necessarily protect me from an infectious wearer.




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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Ogg on Saturday, July 25, 2020 07:45:29
    I disagree with your last example. If drunk, then yes.. it is stupid to drive. But your comparison wrt masks only assumes that the person is infectious. If a person is perfectly healthy, then there is no need to

    Okay, I come from Wisconsin, the one state in the US where a drunk-driving offense, for the first one, is no more than a really bad ticket. You have to get to getting caught twice before it's a crime.

    ...I'm not sure if that's really on topic, but the point I'm wanting to get
    at is that people are oftentimes still rather capable of doing a variety of things while somewhat drunk. E.g., rumor had it in the juggling circles I was in that someone did five balls while drunk, and the police officer let them
    go.

    But is it as safe as driving completely sober? No. There's a level of risk.
    But at some point it's probably still less than driving while drowsy.

    And, oftentimes it's next to impossible to get home from the bar when you're doing things in rural areas.

    And then there's the aspect that you might be legal to drive, but it's
    probably still better if you didn't.

    And so on.

    If there's plenty of nuance available to me on that topic, there's plenty of nuance available to me on the mask topic.

    But it was an analogy. It seems apt to me, but I don't bring it up all that much because I understand that a lot of people would respond as you did.

    wear a mask. If I am in a room with another person or persons whom I *know* are covid-negative, then there is no need to wear masks.

    Being that half of people with COVID19 are asympomatic, or symptoms indistinguishable from daily life, I'm uncertain how you "know"
    they are covid-negative.

    I think it's unlikely that I've been infected, given a variety of things, but
    I don't _know_.

    Maybe if I were in New Zealand.

    feet! I see people wearing masks while driving, and they are the only person on the car! Many people are NOT understanding the real point of wearing a mask.

    Speaking as someone who does that, I tend to do it because I wore the mask
    when leaving the house and going to the car, and did not want to touch my
    face again once I got to the next place where I should be wearing a mask
    again.

    Much like most of the safety things I do (e.g., attempting to leave more room in front of me when I drive, even though it oftentimes results in situations where car after car pulls in front of me), I'm doing it because I want the safety buffer for when something goes wrong, or because I'm doing my
    best to be prepared.

    I don't fault you for how you approach it. I don't really even particularly fault people who do all sorts of higher-risk things than I do, whether it's COVID related or something else.

    But I'm aware of the available (if limited) science, and choose to act in a certain way anyway. It's a temperamental difference, not a misunderstanding
    of the data.

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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Ogg on Saturday, July 25, 2020 06:13:06
    Re: wear a mask or you get shot
    By: Ogg to Adept on Fri Jul 24 2020 08:34 pm

    I still see people wearing masks and there are no other people within 50 feet! I see people wearing masks while driving, and they are the only person on the car! Many people are NOT understanding the real point of wearing a mask.

    I suppose I am one of those. But there is a reason.

    If I am in the workplace, dealing with people, I put the respirator on. When the workday is over, I may stot at a store to get supplies on my way home. I prefer to take the respirator off once I am at home, than taking it off when picking the car, then putting it on again when going into the store, then putting it off again when going back in the car. The less you touch these things, the better.

    I hope that makes any sense XD


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