• Re: Why vaccinate?

    From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Jeff Squires on Friday, September 17, 2021 17:49:39
    On 17 Sep 2021, Jeff Squires said the following...
    Why did Dr Fauci first say mask were not effective then say they
    First of all, our knowledge of the virus has been evolving over time. Second of all, Fauci did not say that masks were not effective. Given the limited number of masks available nationwide at the time, he urge that regular people not wear them so that medical personnel and first responders -- the people most likely to be exposed -- would have enou available. When the supply of masks changed, so did Fauci's advice.

    Let's face it Fauci has been all over the place on his so called
    "advice". This is a guy who was funding virus research in the lab where

    No, he hasn't been "all over the place."

    "advice". This is a guy who was funding virus research in the lab where the outbreak was in China.... You can take advice from him, but I

    There is no evidence that the the virus originated in a lab. There's also no evidence that it didn't, but there's no evidence that it did.

    the outbreak was in China.... You can take advice from him, but I
    wouldn't trust him to tell me it's raining.

    I'm aware of Fauci's qualifications to be dispensing medical advice; what are yours?

    Is breathing carbon dioxide good for you?
    Which is smaller, a carbon dioxide molecule or the holes in a paper/c mask? You can't have it both ways.
    You didn't answer the question a typical pattern for you, segue to something else... Mask effectiveness is about 4 hours after which the moisture build up causes them to be more restrictive and to keep out the covid virus. The real question is are masks effective and the good
    studies say no. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/do-masks-actually-work-the-best-s

    A single COVID-19 virus contains DNA, as do all viruses. This DNA consists of
    a chain of complex organic molecules, each constructed of many atoms.

    Comparatively, a carbon dioxide molecule is comprised of three atoms. A
    single COVID-19 virus is several orders of magnitude larger than a carbon dioxide atom.

    You argue that masks do not prevent spread of the virus because the "holes"
    in the mask's paper or fabric are large enough to let the CODIV-19 virus pass through.

    And yet at the same time, you argue that the "holes" in the mask's paper or fabric are too small to allow carbon dioxide molecules to escape.

    And you can't see the problem here.

    So in 4 hours or less carbon dioxide can be an issue for many wearing masks.

    If you feel that several hours in a mask pose a problem, take a break and get
    a breath of fresh air.

    So, in summary:
    Wrong,
    Wrong, and
    Wrong.
    Funny you say wrong to questions? They don't fit your narrative so
    there wrong ? Som day you may realize you are not always right...

    They are loaded questions based on misinformation.

    Jeff.

    "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -- H. L. Mencken, who indeed was a racist thereby proving himself right.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, September 17, 2021 00:28:02
    On 09-15-21 16:41, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Why vaccinate? <=-


    Your argument is flawed.

    You cannot quarantine those people who are infected with Covid but who
    do not know that they are. And yet, those people can infect others who

    You're right. And it probably will never happen, but Joe sure seems
    pretty extreme these days. I have never been more afraid of my
    government.

    Biden is a lot more stable than Trump ever was. I am finally not afraid
    of my government.

    Where I live, mask mandates are in force everywhere except in your personal residence or when you are actively eating. Leave your
    residence door, and put a mask on.

    That sounds like an excellent policy to me. Which state is it? Are
    they state regulations or city/county? Here in NY everyone just goes by whatever Biden applies to federal property, which seems neglectful on
    our part.

    I live in Maryland. My community follows the guidelines published by the
    two counties it is in.

    Does NY really follow Biden's federal property guidelines?
    As best I can find out, masks are now (as of July 29) required in
    federal buildings for visitors, employees and contractors.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, September 17, 2021 01:10:06
    On 09-16-21 11:39, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to Jeff Thiele about Re: Why vaccinate? <=-

    more sense? There are a million ways to curb covid, and this is like nothing.

    Name three such things that could be done.

    You should tell Biden that we want more bang for the buck with the war
    on covid. Turning a blind eye to, or making excuses for things that are counterproductive to eradicating covid are unacceptable.

    His vaccine mandate (with exceptions) is not counter productive. It is
    not perfect but it will certainly help.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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