• i'm a doughnut

    From Little Mikey@1:153/7001 to Wrongway Peachfuzz on Saturday, July 28, 2018 04:58:33
    Attention Wrongway Peachfuzz,

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    gcc (GCC) 8.2.0
    Copyright (C) 2018 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
    This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
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    Next is glibc-2.28 which is unlikely to be as easy and/or as straightforward as
    the above upgrade was. Time will tell.

    End transmission.

    ... Fudd's First Law of Opposition:
    If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.
    --- GNU bash, version 4.4.23(1)-release (x86_64-silvermont-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Little Mikey on Saturday, July 28, 2018 05:34:24
    Hallo Little Mikey!

    Next is glibc-2.28

    Next is bringing this machine up to date gcc-wise;

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    gcc (GCC) 8.1.0
    Copyright (C) 2018 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
    This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
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    glibc-2.28 is not yet official and I believe there is more than enough time between now and then to upgrade this machine to the good stuff.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 4.4.23(1)-release (x86_64-bonnell-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Little Mikey on Sunday, July 29, 2018 02:09:48
    Hello Little!

    28 Jul 2018 04:58, Little Mikey wrote to Wrongway Peachfuzz:

    Attention Wrongway Peachfuzz,

    +1

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    gcc (GCC) 8.2.0
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    impressed you still not using gentoo :)

    Next is glibc-2.28 which is unlikely to be as easy and/or as straightforward as the above upgrade was. Time will tell.

    +1


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.17.11-gentoo (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Little Mikey@1:153/7001 to Benny Pedersen on Sunday, July 29, 2018 02:34:43
    Attention Benny Pedersen,

    impressed you still not using gentoo :)

    Both the silvermont (this box) and the bonnell are still using the so-called bastardized Slackware-ish/LFS 'distribution' Maurice likes to call medevil. It
    has been deployed here for around 20 years now and looks to be a survivor. It is still sysvinit based unlike most other Linux distributions these days which many hardcore Linux people, including Maurice, favour over the systemd based ones. It works like a charm. However the bonnell hasn't been brought up to date and it might wait until the release of glibc-2.28 or shortly thereafter. At this moment there are fatal issues with m4, gzip and findutils with respect to the currently frozen glibc-2.27.9000 which is the latest candidate for the soonish glibc-2.28 release. At the heart of the problem is gnulib which with a
    bit of tweaking can be fixed by deploying findutils-1.9a.685-d69f-dirty and gzip-1.9.4-9ef6-dirty, but no such luck following the exact same strategy with m4-1.4.18.2-10237-dirty or even a more daring m4-1.9a.685-d69f-dirty. In all cases the same gnulib git source was deployed.

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.17.11-gentoo (x86_64))

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    Linux mikey 4.17.11 #1 SMP Sat Jul 28 17:49:41 UTC 2018 x86_64 Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU C2758 @ 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
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    End transmission.

    ... Fudd's First Law of Opposition:
    If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.
    --- GNU bash, version 4.4.23(1)-release (x86_64-silvermont-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Little Mikey on Sunday, July 29, 2018 12:01:54
    Hello Little!

    29 Jul 2018 02:34, Little Mikey wrote to Benny Pedersen:


    impressed you still not using gentoo :)

    Both the silvermont (this box) and the bonnell are still using the so-called bastardized Slackware-ish/LFS 'distribution' Maurice likes
    to call medevil.

    it really is, precompiled systems is not what i like to see here

    current at home is slackware for the time being

    It has been deployed here for around 20 years now
    and looks to be a survivor.

    why did ipv6 not work for last 20 years then ?, kernel 4.4.132 x64 here do not want kernel based ipv6 autoconfig

    It is still sysvinit based unlike most
    other Linux distributions these days which many hardcore Linux people, including Maurice, favour over the systemd based ones.

    systemd is only optional, prefer openrc stable here over the alternatives

    It works like
    a charm. However the bonnell hasn't been brought up to date and it
    might wait until the release of glibc-2.28 or shortly thereafter.

    2.28 is not in gentoo yet, it might still be possible it just works, but problem compileing it and using it one cant downgrade from it, so if i have 2.28 need patches that dont break 2.28

    At
    this moment there are fatal issues with m4,

    freebsd uses makefile :)

    gzip and findutils with
    respect to the currently frozen glibc-2.27.9000

    aha, still freezed on 2.26 here

    which is the latest
    candidate for the soonish glibc-2.28 release.

    +1

    At the heart of the
    problem is gnulib which with a bit of tweaking can be fixed by
    deploying findutils-1.9a.685-d69f-dirty and gzip-1.9.4-9ef6-dirty, but

    not how things are done on gentoo here, precompiled problems solutions do not be in gentoo

    no such luck following the exact same strategy with m4-1.4.18.2-10237-dirty or even a more daring m4-1.9a.685-d69f-dirty.
    In all cases the same gnulib git source was deployed.

    are this precompiled or just patches ? :)

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    Linux mikey 4.17.11 #1 SMP Sat Jul 28 17:49:41 UTC 2018 x86_64
    Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU C2758 @ 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
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    my home slackware is running on atom x86_64 aswell


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/4.17.11-gentoo (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)