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lenses? We are both in the process of doing that and they claim that afterwards, we may well not need glasses for distant viewing, only for intermediate and reading.

As long as you don't have astigmatism (or pay the additional $1000/eye
for the specialized lenses), that should be true.... :) There's also

We both have astigmatism, Gail's is worse than mine. I had to have an
extra visit with a retina specialist who detected a little hole in my
retina. He did a laser cauterization around the hole to prevent it from spreading.

the option of setting up one eye for distance and the other for
near... plus, I think I've read of some replacement lenses that would actually do both, like the progressive glasses... but I'd expect them
to be quite expensive, too....

There is not only an extra charge for them, but the eye surgeon actively discouraged them.

Right now, Gail has one eye done and the other still needing
prescription glasses. Even with the lense in the glasses removed, it
seems that the two eyes are fighting for control in her brain -- causing
a bit of discomfort. Hopefully that will straighten itself out in time
after her second eye is done next week.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: MEZGALDI OF ONIONS
Categories: Appetizers, _ethnic, Vegetables
Yield: 4 Servings

2 lb Spanish onions, sliced
2/3 c Olive oil
1/4 ts Powdered saffron
1 ts Ginger
1 ts Black peppercorns, crushed
4 tb Cinnamon
2 tb Sugar
2 ea Celery stalks

Arrange onions in layers in a large shallow bowl. Combine oil,
saffron, ginger, pepper, half cinnamon & sugar. Pour over onions,
add just enough water to cover. Mix well & let marinate for 2 hours.

Place celery stalks crossways in the bottom of a tagine or casserole.
This protects the onions from scorching. Arrange onions in
overlapping layers & pour over marinade. Sprinkle with remaining
cinnamon & sugar.

Cover tagine & cook at 325F for 30 to 40 minutes & then uncover &
brown under a broiler just before serving. The onions should be
lsightly caramelized & very tender.

Robert Carrier, "Taste of Morocco"

Recipe posted by: Mark Satterly

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Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 02-07-19 00:44 <=-

On 02-05-19 21:01, Nancy Backus <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: 888 taking, taking a <=-

lenses? We are both in the process of doing that and they claim that
afterwards, we may well not need glasses for distant viewing, only for
intermediate and reading.

As long as you don't have astigmatism (or pay the additional $1000/eye
for the specialized lenses), that should be true.... :)

We both have astigmatism, Gail's is worse than mine. I had to have an extra visit with a retina specialist who detected a little hole in my retina. He did a laser cauterization around the hole to prevent it
from spreading.

That's a good thing to catch early.... And the astigmatism won't be
corrected for with the regular replacement lenses.... but the glass in
the distance part of the glasses will just be the astigmatism
correction, and not for the distance, more than likely....

There's also the option of setting up one eye for distance and the
other for near... plus, I think I've read of some replacement lenses
that would actually do both, like the progressive glasses... but I'd
expect them to be quite expensive, too....

There is not only an extra charge for them, but the eye surgeon
actively discouraged them.

Interesting that he actively discouraged them... was it specifically for
your eyes, or in general....?

Right now, Gail has one eye done and the other still needing
prescription glasses. Even with the lense in the glasses removed, it seems that the two eyes are fighting for control in her brain --
causing a bit of discomfort. Hopefully that will straighten itself out
in time after her second eye is done next week.

I didn't have too much difficulty with that, but then, my corrections,
except for the astigmatism, were quite mild already before the
surgery... It should straighten out once both eyes are fixed... :) Did
she have the (very common) reaction of looking at white things with the
new lens, and then closing that eye and looking with the other eye, and
seeing how yellow things were with the non-fixed eye....? I kept
changing eyes, and looking at my white appliances, which turned out to
be really white, after all, not aged to yellow as my eyes had been
telling me.... (G)

Place celery stalks crossways in the bottom of a tagine or
casserole. This protects the onions from scorching. Arrange onions

Those DEFINITELY are ribs, not stalks.... (G)

ttyl neb

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On 02-09-19 21:28, Nancy Backus <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Eye replacement <=-

We both have astigmatism, Gail's is worse than mine. I had to have an extra visit with a retina specialist who detected a little hole in my retina. He did a laser cauterization around the hole to prevent it
from spreading.

That's a good thing to catch early....

I just do what the eye doctors say. This practice has a half dozen
doctors, each with a different speciality focus.

And the astigmatism won't be
corrected for with the regular replacement lenses.... but the glass in

Which is why we are getting the astigmatism lenses.

the distance part of the glasses will just be the astigmatism
correction, and not for the distance, more than likely....

I don't understand what you mean there. The lens will both correct for astigmatism and provide good distance vision. We will need some sort of
other glasses for mid range or reading, but no glasses for distance.

There's also the option of setting up one eye for distance and the
other for near... plus, I think I've read of some replacement lenses
that would actually do both, like the progressive glasses... but I'd
expect them to be quite expensive, too....

There is not only an extra charge for them, but the eye surgeon
actively discouraged them.

Interesting that he actively discouraged them... was it specifically
for your eyes, or in general....?

I think in general. He did not seem to be entusiastic about them at
all.

Right now, Gail has one eye done and the other still needing
prescription glasses. Even with the lense in the glasses removed, it seems that the two eyes are fighting for control in her brain --
causing a bit of discomfort. Hopefully that will straighten itself out
in time after her second eye is done next week.

I didn't have too much difficulty with that, but then, my corrections, except for the astigmatism, were quite mild already before the
surgery... It should straighten out once both eyes are fixed... :)

So we hope.

Did she have the (very common) reaction of looking at white things with the new lens, and then closing that eye and looking with the other eye, and seeing how yellow things were with the non-fixed eye....? I kept changing eyes, and looking at my white appliances, which turned out to
be really white, after all, not aged to yellow as my eyes had been
telling me.... (G)

Correct. And the kitchen color is different, etc. She gets her other
eye done on Tuesday, at which point maybe the two eyes will become
friends again instead of fighting for control.

Place celery stalks crossways in the bottom of a tagine or
casserole. This protects the onions from scorching. Arrange onions

Those DEFINITELY are ribs, not stalks.... (G)

Yep -- I doubt that hardly any recipe calling for stalks of celery
really means that. It seems to be a distinction that only a few folks
make. We are in the minority overall, but in the majority here.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: EGGPLANT VEGETABLE AND TAHINI SPREAD
Categories: Appetizers, Vegetables, Dips, Vegan
Yield: 4 Cups

2 md Eggplants
6 tb Tahini
6 tb Freshly squeezed lemon juice
1/4 c Olive oil
1 ts Fine sea salt
1/8 ts Cayenne pepper
2 md Carrots; grated
2 Celery ribs; finely chopped
1 sm Red onion; minced
2 Garlic cloves; minced
2 md Tomatoes
-- seeded & finely chopped

Preheat the oven to 400 F. Lightly oil a 9- by 13-inch baking pan.

Prick the eggplants all over with a fork. Place in the baking pan
and bake until soft, about 45 minutes. Cool completely.

Halve the eggplants and remove the soft eggplant pulp from the skin,
scraping it off with the dull side of a knife. Place the pulp in a
medium bowl and discard or compost the skin. Add the tahini, lemon
juice, oil, salt, and cayenne and beat well with a wooden spoon until
light. Stir in the carrots, celery, onion, and garlic, then stir in
the tomatoes. The spread will keep up to 2 days, covered and
refrigerated.

Source: May All Be Fed - by John Robbins, with Jia Patton & Friends
Typed for you by Karen Mintzias

Recipe posted by: Karen Mintzias

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Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 02-11-19 01:03 <=-

We both have astigmatism, Gail's is worse than mine. I had to have an
extra visit with a retina specialist who detected a little hole in my
retina. He did a laser cauterization around the hole to prevent it
from spreading.

That's a good thing to catch early....

I just do what the eye doctors say. This practice has a half dozen doctors, each with a different speciality focus.

That can be useful.... :)

And the astigmatism won't be
corrected for with the regular replacement lenses....

Which is why we are getting the astigmatism lenses.

Ah.... you mean the lenses that are put in when the cataracts are taken
out will have the correction for your astigmatism as well....? I had to
opt not to get those as I couldn't afford the extra cost, which my
insurance wasn't going to cover....

but the glass in the distance part of the glasses will just be the
astigmatism correction, and not for the distance, more than likely....

I don't understand what you mean there. The lens will both correct
for astigmatism and provide good distance vision. We will need some
sort of other glasses for mid range or reading, but no glasses for distance.

Ok, I didn't understand that your new implants would be correcting for
the astigmatism... as I said above, mine don't, so my glasses still have
to correct for that along with the near vision....

There's also the option of setting up one eye for distance and the
other for near... plus, I think I've read of some replacement lenses
that would actually do both, like the progressive glasses... but I'd
expect them to be quite expensive, too....

There is not only an extra charge for them, but the eye surgeon
actively discouraged them.

Interesting that he actively discouraged them... was it specifically
for your eyes, or in general....?

I think in general. He did not seem to be entusiastic about them at
all.

Perhaps they are too new, and he doesn't trust the technology to have
worked out all the bugs, yet.... the implants tend to be permanent, so
one wouldn't want to put in something that didn't work right after
all... :)

Right now, Gail has one eye done and the other still needing
prescription glasses. Even with the lense in the glasses removed, it
seems that the two eyes are fighting for control in her brain --
causing a bit of discomfort. Hopefully that will straighten itself out
in time after her second eye is done next week.

I didn't have too much difficulty with that, but then, my corrections,
except for the astigmatism, were quite mild already before the
surgery... It should straighten out once both eyes are fixed... :)

So we hope.

Did she have the (very common) reaction of looking at white things with
the new lens, and then closing that eye and looking with the other eye,
and seeing how yellow things were with the non-fixed eye....? I kept
changing eyes, and looking at my white appliances, which turned out to
be really white, after all, not aged to yellow as my eyes had been
telling me.... (G)

Correct. And the kitchen color is different, etc. She gets her other
eye done on Tuesday, at which point maybe the two eyes will become
friends again instead of fighting for control.

Hopefully that's the case now... :) When do you have yours done...?

Place celery stalks crossways in the bottom of a tagine or
casserole. This protects the onions from scorching. Arrange onions

Those DEFINITELY are ribs, not stalks.... (G)

Yep -- I doubt that hardly any recipe calling for stalks of celery
really means that. It seems to be a distinction that only a few folks make. We are in the minority overall, but in the majority here.

I suppose some people use the terminology of bunch for the stalk, and
then stalk for the rib.... But having learned the rib terminology, it's
hard to go back... (G)

ttyl neb

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On 02-13-19 17:31, Nancy Backus <=-
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Which is why we are getting the astigmatism lenses.

Ah.... you mean the lenses that are put in when the cataracts are
taken out will have the correction for your astigmatism as well....? I had to opt not to get those as I couldn't afford the extra cost, which
my insurance wasn't going to cover....

We both followed the doctor's recommendations, which included
astigmatism lenses.

Ok, I didn't understand that your new implants would be correcting for
the astigmatism... as I said above, mine don't, so my glasses still
have to correct for that along with the near vision....

We will end up needing some sort of glasses for near vision. We went to
the local Dollar Tree yesterday and got a +2.0 pair of reading glasses
for Gail as a temporary measure, cost $1.00. After her new lenses
settle in, we will go back to our normal eye doctor to discuss more
permanent options.

At the moment, her newest eye is still a bit sore and scratchy.

Hopefully that's the case now... :) When do you have yours done...?

I go in for my first one in about ten days, on a Tuesday. Then the
second eye will be two weeks after that.

This recipe looks like its "1 serving" could feed a large super bowl
crowd, but I expect you could cut it down to a more reasonable size.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Chez Melange Dipping Sauce
Categories: California, Sauce, Appetizer
Yield: 1 servings

6 oz Anchovies
1/2 c Olive oil
1 lb Carrots; coarsely chopped
1 Onion; coarsely chopped
1 lb Celery; coarsely chopped
1 1/2 c Dry white wine
6 lb Whole tomatoes
- finely chopped
12 oz Crushed tomatoes
1/2 c Tomato paste
1 1/4 qt Chicken stock
1 1/2 Lemons, zested
1/3 c Worcestershire sauce
4 Beef bouillon cubes
1 1/2 ts Salt
1 1/4 ts Black pepper
1 1/4 ts Granulated garlic
3/4 ts Crushed red chiles
1 1/4 ts Ground basil
1 1/2 ts Ground thyme
1 1/2 c Light brown sugar

From Chef Bill Donnelly: "This is probably the most asked for item on
the menu. It is served in a bowl with freshly baked bread, and it's
fantastic!"

In a medium large saucepan place the anchovies and the olive oil.
Simmer them on medium low for 12 to 15 minutes, or until the
anchovies have dissolved.

In a large saucepan place the dissolved anchovies and the oil. Add
the remainder of the ingredients and stir them together. Simmer the
mixture for 1 hour.

Source: Chez Melange - Redondo Beach, California
"Southern California Beach Recipe" by Joan and Carl Stromquist
: ISBN: 0-9622807-3-9

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Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 02-15-19 00:59 <=-

Which is why we are getting the astigmatism lenses.

Ah.... you mean the lenses that are put in when the cataracts are
taken out will have the correction for your astigmatism as well....? I
had to opt not to get those as I couldn't afford the extra cost, which
my insurance wasn't going to cover....

We both followed the doctor's recommendations, which included
astigmatism lenses.

When I had mine done, a couple or more years ago, my doctor said they
were optional, and understood our financial limitations....

Ok, I didn't understand that your new implants would be correcting for
the astigmatism... as I said above, mine don't, so my glasses still
have to correct for that along with the near vision....

We will end up needing some sort of glasses for near vision. We went
to the local Dollar Tree yesterday and got a +2.0 pair of reading
glasses for Gail as a temporary measure, cost $1.00. After her new lenses settle in, we will go back to our normal eye doctor to discuss
more permanent options.

Makes sense... :)

At the moment, her newest eye is still a bit sore and scratchy.

It does take a little time for things to settle... hopefully it's
better by now.... :)

Hopefully that's the case now... :) When do you have yours done...?

I go in for my first one in about ten days, on a Tuesday. Then the
second eye will be two weeks after that.

Won't be too long, then....

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Title: Chez Melange Dipping Sauce
Categories: California, Sauce, Appetizer
Yield: 1 servings

I'm guessing that 1 serving is the same as 1 batch, as far as they were thinking.... ;) It does look like it would feed a crowd, and then leave leftovers.... wonder how/if it would keep.... ;)

ttyl neb

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