• 899 extended travel was again

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Sunday, February 03, 2019 03:19:26
    Countries that have inflation but sort of
    stable economies have this minor issue, some
    secure enough to spend 4c to mint a 1c coin. I was
    There has been discussions over the years about doing away with it--the
    US facilities (except for banks and the post office) did so in Germany.

    Yes. I wrote a piece in around 1970 advocating
    for the abandonment of the penny, the punch
    line of which was "pretty soon, the penny won't
    be worth a plugged nickel." Here in Panama,
    though, people still count down to the cent,
    and you get in change a mixture of old
    beat-up US coin, including pennies, and
    shiny new local metal, including pennies that
    I can't figure out how they afford to mint.

    PX and commissary prices were always rounded to the nearest nickel. A
    bit of a bother at times but it probably sort of evened out in the long
    run.

    Many places do that now.

    surprised that given its reputation Switzerland
    had any at all and that there was such a thing
    as demonetization there. It could be much worse
    - in countries with really unstable currencies,
    the government may go, okay, we're starting over
    again, after another month, your money isn't
    good any more, trade it in quick for the new
    stuff or lose it forever. Which is bad for
    That is all aroud bad.
    everyone and a measure of desperation. And when
    your poor innocent tourist (moi) comes by a
    few years later with fistfuls of old money, he
    can't even afford to get a taxicab to the bank.
    Reminds me of what I read about post WWI inflation in Germany.

    The countries I've been in that have massive
    inflation have been Spanish- and Portuguese-
    speaking countries. I guess Greece, too. Just
    think of the disruption to daily life that
    that phenomenon causes.

    Some may enjoy the unique-ness of a no longer used coin.
    Only the very young or the very hoarder. I guess
    that describes a lot of coin collectors.
    Both the serious ones and the ones that collect only what happens to
    come their way. I'm sort of the latter, having had a limited travel opportunity.

    And then there are those who use old coins
    for decorative purposes, as people have
    noted here.

    Until recently, in Asia napkins were not
    offered. With all this international tourism,
    they are no longer rare but usually cost extra.
    In fancy places. they're of course part of the
    European-style place setting, but nobody but
    the Europeans (and wannabes) use them.
    So if we ever go to Asia, I need to bring over a roll of paper towels or similar to use as napkins in everyday places? (G)

    You could go one easier and buy a roll of
    towels or TP or pack of Kleenex locally.
    Cheaper, likely to be of similar quality.

    They are good in some instances--I'm sure you prefer them in your glasses than the glass lenses you probably had at one time.
    Durables of course aren't in question. I am not
    advocating banning airplanes and cars but am
    seriously questioning (always did) the wisdom
    of plastic packaging and plastics in prolonged
    contact with food and drink.
    And your solution is....................?

    Pretty simple, actually. More locavorism. More
    preserving stuff in glass rather than plastic.

    Who knows. In this group I've decided to demote
    myself to either assistant concertmaster or
    principal second on a trial basis.
    How long a trial basis?
    Until I get repromoted or fired altogether,
    both of which are at least partially my own
    decision.
    Do it as long as you enjoy it. Then consider if it's worth the time, etc
    to continue.

    That's boiling it down to the essence, but
    there's often more than the objective
    objectives.

    I'm cooking for Bonnie's son in the not distant
    future - it'll be the one dinner where we overlap,
    me back in the States for a couple days and him on
    his way to Maine. Of course inquiries were in order
    about his food preferences, and it turns out he has
    a tiny comfort zone. He likes beef, potatoes,
    spaghetti with red sauce, salad, and shellfish (but
    not with spaghetti with red sauce). That's pretty
    much it. I've met even worse of course.
    But you do have some wiggle room there. Fish stew with salad on the
    side? Roast beef with roasted potatoes on the side, maybe Yorkshire
    pudding also?

    Fish stew wouldn't fly. Salad, fine; someone
    else made that - after all, you must bear in
    mind that my product also has to please ME.

    Limburger pizza
    Since Steve won't let Limburger into the house, I'll have to
    pass on > ML> > this recipe. (G)
    Oh, and your heart is surely broken.
    Absolutly NOT!
    Heh.
    He had a bad experience with it in the years before I met him.

    Everyone has had a bad experience with it.

    Old spoiled reindeer with the hair insufficiently
    scraped off is kind of my line in the sand.
    I'v not had that nor do I want to try it. But, I'll go vegetarian as
    a > change of pace sometimes.
    If you'd been able to go to the Montreal Munch
    in the late '90s you'd have had the opportunity.
    I had to read about it; we were in AZ at the time. It may have been the
    year Steve was in Korea.

    It was before Y2K ... 1999, most likely.

    This might be memorable, though not in a good way.
    Title: Dillbrot (Dill Bread)
    I've seen similar recipies, been tempted to try them but never have.
    IIRC, some have a rye flour component.

    Ugh, just ugh.

    Tofu fruit smoothies
    categories: vegan, snack, beverage, Massachusetts
    servings: 4

    8 oz silken tofu
    1/2 md ripe banana
    1/2 c orange juice
    1/4 c honey
    1/4 c strawberries or fruit of choice
    - fresh or frozen
    1 c ice

    Blend together tofu, banana, orange juice, honey
    and fruit until smooth. Add ice, then continue
    to blend until creamy. Serve immediately.

    Nasoya Foods USA
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Monday, February 04, 2019 15:33:47
    Hi Michael,

    Countries that have inflation but sort of
    stable economies have this minor issue, some
    secure enough to spend 4c to mint a 1c coin. I was
    There has been discussions over the years about doing away with
    it--the > US facilities (except for banks and the post office) did so
    in Germany.

    Yes. I wrote a piece in around 1970 advocating
    for the abandonment of the penny, the punch
    line of which was "pretty soon, the penny won't
    be worth a plugged nickel." Here in Panama,

    Nobody at the time thought it was worth considering.

    though, people still count down to the cent,
    and you get in change a mixture of old
    beat-up US coin, including pennies, and
    shiny new local metal, including pennies that
    I can't figure out how they afford to mint.

    Must be fun figuring out what combination of coins to use. (G)


    PX and commissary prices were always rounded to the nearest nickel.
    A > bit of a bother at times but it probably sort of evened out in the long > run.

    Many places do that now.

    This was our first experience with it; that was 20+ years ago tho.

    again, after another month, your money isn't
    good any more, trade it in quick for the new
    stuff or lose it forever. Which is bad for
    That is all aroud bad.
    everyone and a measure of desperation. And when
    your poor innocent tourist (moi) comes by a
    few years later with fistfuls of old money, he
    can't even afford to get a taxicab to the bank.
    Reminds me of what I read about post WWI inflation in Germany.

    The countries I've been in that have massive
    inflation have been Spanish- and Portuguese-
    speaking countries. I guess Greece, too. Just
    think of the disruption to daily life that
    that phenomenon causes.

    Quite so--don't want to have to buy your bread, milk and eggs with a
    truckload of almost worthless currency.


    Some may enjoy the unique-ness of a no longer used coin.
    Only the very young or the very hoarder. I guess
    that describes a lot of coin collectors.
    Both the serious ones and the ones that collect only what happens to come their way. I'm sort of the latter, having had a limited travel opportunity.

    And then there are those who use old coins
    for decorative purposes, as people have
    noted here.

    Yes, mine are stashed away somewhere, probably in an undisclosed
    location.

    Until recently, in Asia napkins were not
    offered. With all this international tourism,
    they are no longer rare but usually cost extra.
    In fancy places. they're of course part of the
    European-style place setting, but nobody but
    the Europeans (and wannabes) use them.
    So if we ever go to Asia, I need to bring over a roll of paper
    towels or > similar to use as napkins in everyday places? (G)

    You could go one easier and buy a roll of
    towels or TP or pack of Kleenex locally.
    Cheaper, likely to be of similar quality.

    As long as it's of decent quality. Travelling in Europe in the 80s and
    90s, we came across all sorts of quality of napkins and TP. At
    Checkpoint Alpha, the TP felt like wax paper. I encountered the same
    sort of TP in England about a year after our stop at the checkpoint so
    figured the Brits had supplied it there. (G)

    They are good in some instances--I'm sure you prefer them in
    your > ML> > glasses than the glass lenses you probably had at one
    time.
    Durables of course aren't in question. I am not
    advocating banning airplanes and cars but am
    seriously questioning (always did) the wisdom
    of plastic packaging and plastics in prolonged
    contact with food and drink.
    And your solution is....................?

    Pretty simple, actually. More locavorism. More
    preserving stuff in glass rather than plastic.

    It'll work, as long as people support it.

    Who knows. In this group I've decided to demote
    myself to either assistant concertmaster or
    principal second on a trial basis.
    How long a trial basis?
    Until I get repromoted or fired altogether,
    both of which are at least partially my own
    decision.
    Do it as long as you enjoy it. Then consider if it's worth the time,
    etc > to continue.

    That's boiling it down to the essence, but
    there's often more than the objective
    objectives.

    As usual.

    I'm cooking for Bonnie's son in the not distant
    future - it'll be the one dinner where we overlap,
    me back in the States for a couple days and him on
    his way to Maine. Of course inquiries were in order
    about his food preferences, and it turns out he has
    a tiny comfort zone. He likes beef, potatoes,
    spaghetti with red sauce, salad, and shellfish (but
    not with spaghetti with red sauce). That's pretty
    much it. I've met even worse of course.
    But you do have some wiggle room there. Fish stew with salad on the side? Roast beef with roasted potatoes on the side, maybe Yorkshire pudding also?

    Fish stew wouldn't fly. Salad, fine; someone
    else made that - after all, you must bear in
    mind that my product also has to please ME.

    OK, those were just a couple of off the top of my head ideas.

    Limburger pizza
    Since Steve won't let Limburger into the house, I'll
    have to > ML> pass on > ML> > this recipe. (G)
    Oh, and your heart is surely broken.
    Absolutly NOT!
    Heh.
    He had a bad experience with it in the years before I met him.

    Everyone has had a bad experience with it.

    The only time I've had a taste of it was in one of those Swiss Colony
    type assortments, as a spread. My mom's younger sister gave an
    assortment to my parents several years for Christmas so on a Sunday
    night in January, supper would be that, plus crackers. We all had to use
    just a small amount of the cheese spreads "so everybody could try all of
    them" so I never had much of a taste of Limburger. I don't really like
    much of the strong bleu/blue type cheeses anyway, so I guess I'm not
    missing much. (G)

    Old spoiled reindeer with the hair insufficiently
    scraped off is kind of my line in the sand.
    I'v not had that nor do I want to try it. But, I'll go
    vegetarian as > ML> a > change of pace sometimes.
    If you'd been able to go to the Montreal Munch
    in the late '90s you'd have had the opportunity.
    I had to read about it; we were in AZ at the time. It may have been
    the > year Steve was in Korea.

    It was before Y2K ... 1999, most likely.

    OK, we were in AZ but just couldn't make it up that far north.


    This might be memorable, though not in a good way.
    Title: Dillbrot (Dill Bread)
    I've seen similar recipies, been tempted to try them but never have. IIRC, some have a rye flour component.


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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Monday, February 04, 2019 16:06:40
    Hi Michael,

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    Ugh, just ugh.

    Not so much the thought of the dill/rye bread but.......

    Tofu fruit smoothies
    categories: vegan, snack, beverage, Massachusetts
    servings: 4

    ................this one maybe so. I've had tofu before but not in a
    drink.

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    Ruth
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