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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Friday, January 11, 2019 12:32:06
    The breakfast cereal industry spent about a billion
    on advertising (annually as of 2015), just behind the
    potato chip and snack food industry at 1.4 billion
    (as of 2014), but their expenditures are dwarfed by
    the 4.6 billion spent by the fast food giants.
    If you pick and choose carefully, you can make a fairly healthy meal
    (salad, grilled meat, no bun) at a fast food place. Can't do that with

    That's another "rather starve" scenario for me.

    most snack foods and a lot of the breakfast cereals, despite the claims
    from the advertisers.

    Yay for chicharrones!

    Or use them as you'd use rice flour. You're
    paying a premium, but it would be better than
    throwing them out altogether.
    Don't have to worry about throwing it out because I don't (and have
    never) buy/bought it. I have brown rice on hand that I can make rice
    flour from if I want it.

    One can learn something from one's
    parents, then.

    At our age unless we ingest massive quantities,
    heavy metal toxicity isn't a major concern.
    True, but if I can avoid ingesting any of that stuff, I won't.
    I'm not going to scarf down a lead bar
    or anything, but a few micromoles of some
    poisonous metal can't concern me if I
    don't make a habit of it.
    No, and cans today usually don't have the lead solder to be concerned
    with.

    I wonder when the last time they did was.

    OK, I forgot that New England, especially BAH-ston accent. Talking
    with > my physical therapist yesterday--he was surprised I'd grown up
    in the > northeast. He guess it was Georgia or some other southern state.
    Well ... you don't talk fast and rude like
    the northeast stereotype.
    No, never have, never will. The southern accent has stayed--we left NC
    in 1983 when Steve joined the Army. 20 years later, in HI, I had people asking me what part of the south I was from.

    People kept asking me whether I was from
    Chicago (a city I've never lived within
    250 miles of).

    Also the more to take care of--the big ones can go thru a lot of dog chow. Grooming them can be a bit of a challenge too.
    Yeah, that's where we got on this
    conversation - the unwisdom of Lilli
    getting a big dog.
    Is she still thinking about it?

    One can't tell, but it wouldn't be the first
    time anyone ever lengthily considered something
    bad for one.

    We encountered one subminiature poodle yesterday
    who had this crazy fondness for collard greens and
    black-eyed peas.
    Makes you wonder what else it eats. Probably not dog food.
    Oh, only the daintiest of viands, no doubt.
    On the finest china and crystal, of course. (G)

    At least on people dishes.

    Probably a couple marks, then.
    About right, as I recall.
    I don't have any marks left - I did find
    some francs lying around, though.
    I've got some DM, some pfennig, I think some Swiss rappen and francs,
    and a number of other small coinage from various countries squirreled
    away somewhere.

    Swiss francs are still good, and they're now
    worth a buck (they were probably closer to
    half that last time you blew through there).
    Rappen are no longer legal tender but in
    sufficient quantity can be changed at banks
    for other currency. These are all perfect
    candidates for UNICEF.

    Don't know what our picnic status for this year will be--depends on
    the > knee. Now that I have a late March date for surgery, VT may be
    out also.
    Show up if you can, as will we all.
    To be considered.

    What annoys me about some of my friends and
    acquaintances is that they figure someone else
    is going to do it, so why should I recycle or
    conserve? In vain do I remonstrate with them
    that the more people do the right thing, the
    better the results.
    That's why we do it--because other people don't. We do use paper towels
    and napkins, but all white, no dye for prints.

    With these there's the massive convenience
    factor, plus as with dishwashing there's a
    point at which disposal costs less than the
    soap and water would.

    I don't have a thing for hot liquids nor
    even for cold. I;m distrustful of Nalgene,
    though, as I'm sure that it will be proven
    to be carcinogenic, a worse problem than
    lead or cholesterol or anything like that.
    Hopefully long after we're gone.

    I speculate that that's what killed my sister.

    As long as you're not on stage for a major presentation,
    you're OK > ML> to > have a few wrinkles. (G)
    You should see the holes in my tuxedo.
    Don't see the need for a new one?
    No, why would I?
    Now that you're retired, why bother?

    I wouldn't ever have bothered unless the
    thing hung from shreds from my shoulders.
    Anyway, I still do a few concerts - though
    have recently been given the opportunity to
    "voluntarily" retire from one of my groups.

    No, and once we grow up/move away from home, we can eat whatever we
    went > (or not eat what we chose not to).
    But so many people are content with or maybe
    even are more comfortable with the same old
    same old.
    True, but it's nice to know that there is (and I took) an option to
    break out of the same old, same old.

    I love the same old same old and also love
    the new and exciting. I really do have it in
    me to be a world-class life-lover. Someone
    recently pointed out that for a person who
    likes food, it's weird for me to be able to
    eat the same thing for days or weeks on end;
    my response being, yes, just so long as it
    tastes good, why not.

    I use just a bit--if the recipe calls for a teaspoon of vanilla
    extract, > I'll sub an equal amount of mint. More than that and I'll
    use some
    vanilla, some mint. Peppermint, not spearmint or mixed mint; the
    latter > 2 don't taste right mixed with chocolate.
    I'm guessing that fudge is so sweet that minting
    it would put me in mind of toothpaste.
    They have distinctly different tastes to me; I don't buy chocolate mint flavored toothpaste, nor do I make/buy fudge with all the chemicals that toothpaste has.

    Just because smelly cheese tastes like
    feet doesn't mean that it is feet.

    Limburger pizza
    Categories: starter, fusion, diffusion, dairy, starch, wwtt
    Servings: 8

    1 pk (7 oz) Limburger cheese
    12 in prepared bread shell or frozen pizza crust
    1 c finely sliced new potatoes
    1/4 c chopped red onion
    6 stalks fresh asparagus, sliced lengthwise in half
    1 garlic clove, minced
    1 Tb fresh thyme or 1 ts dried
    1/4 ts salt
    2 Tb olive oil
    crushed red pepper flakes, to taste

    Heat oven to 425F. Cut away 1/4-in rind from all
    sides of cheese; discard rind. Shred remaining
    cheese; you should have about 1 1/2 c. Sprinkle
    bread shell or pizza crust with half the cheese.

    Combine potatoes, onion, asparagus, garlic, thyme
    and salt. Drizzle olive oil over mixture and toss
    lightly. Spread the vegetables evenly over pizza.
    Sprinkle remaining cheese over vegetables. Place
    pizza on baking sheet. Bake until cheese is
    melted and slightly golden, 18 to 20 min.

    Nancy Backas (sic), Chicago Tribune 12/15/1994
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Saturday, January 12, 2019 02:34:08
    On 01-11-19 11:32, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Ruth Haffly about 801 extended travel was^2 <=-

    You should see the holes in my tuxedo.
    Don't see the need for a new one?
    No, why would I?
    Now that you're retired, why bother?

    I wouldn't ever have bothered unless the
    thing hung from shreds from my shoulders.
    Anyway, I still do a few concerts - though
    have recently been given the opportunity to
    "voluntarily" retire from one of my groups.

    Do you remember that you have a white jacket here? It is hanging in the
    closet of the hat room.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Har Gau (Shrimp Dumplings)
    Categories: Chinese, Appetizer, Seafood
    Yield: 4 servings

    4 c Tapioca flour
    1 tb Granulated sugar
    1 pk Yeast
    1/2 c Hot milk (120-1300)
    3/4 c Hot water (120 - 1300)
    2 1/2 tb Pork fat
    3/4 lb Shrimp, shelled, deveined,
    -washed, dried & diced
    1 ts Salt
    1 1/2 ts Granulated sugar
    1/2 Egg white, beaten
    1 1/2 tb Tapioca flour
    2 ts Oyster sauce
    1 ts Sesame oil
    pn White pepper
    1/3 c Water chestnuts, diced
    1/3 c White portion of scallions,
    -finely chopped
    1/4 c Bamboo shoots, diced

    Mix 3-1/2 cups flour, sugar and yeast in a large bowl. In a small
    bowl, combine milk and water. Add milk mixture to flour and stir
    until flour clumps. Turn dough onto lightly floured surface and
    knead for 10 minutes or until dough is smooth and elastic. Let rest
    for 15 minutes. Knead lightly for 1 minute. Place dough in lightly
    greased large bowl to rise till doubled about 30-45 minutes. Drop
    pork fat into 1-1/2 cups boiling water and allow to boil until it
    cooks fully and becomes translucent. Remove from the water, place in
    bowl, run cold water over it, let stand for several minutes, remove
    from water, dry with paper towel, and dice. Place shrimp in an
    electric mixer. With mixer running add salt, sugar, egg white,
    tapioca flour, oyster sauce, sesame oil, and white pepper. Add the
    cooked pork fat, water chestnuts, scallions, and bamboo shoots.

    Combine evenly and thoroughly. Place in a shallow bowl and refrigerate
    for 4 hours or freeze 25 minutes. When dough is doubled, punch down.
    Turn onto lightly floured surface and knead for 5 minutes. Split
    dough into quarters. Roll each quarter into 3" long cylinder. Split
    each cylinder into 6 pieces. Flatten and stretch pieces to 3-1/2 to 4"
    circles. Place a teaspoon of filling in the center. Fold the skin in
    half, forming a crescent or half-moon shape. Press to seal the edges.
    Steam 5 to 7 minutes, serve immediately.
    From: Rkcathey@ionet.Net Date: 04-01-00
    Rec.Food.Recipe

    MMMMM


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Saturday, January 12, 2019 18:33:22
    Hi MIchael,

    the 4.6 billion spent by the fast food giants.
    If you pick and choose carefully, you can make a fairly healthy meal (salad, grilled meat, no bun) at a fast food place. Can't do that
    with

    That's another "rather starve" scenario for me.

    Depends on the plac--some of them I would too.

    most snack foods and a lot of the breakfast cereals, despite the
    claims > from the advertisers.

    Yay for chicharrones!

    I'm not thrilled with a lot of commercial snack foods, especially those
    high in calories but empty in flavor.

    Or use them as you'd use rice flour. You're
    paying a premium, but it would be better than
    throwing them out altogether.
    Don't have to worry about throwing it out because I don't (and have never) buy/bought it. I have brown rice on hand that I can make rice flour from if I want it.

    One can learn something from one's
    parents, then.

    Exactly--I learned what cereals not to buy. (G)

    At our age unless we ingest massive quantities,
    heavy metal toxicity isn't a major concern.
    True, but if I can avoid ingesting any of that stuff, I
    won't. > ML> I'm not going to scarf down a lead bar
    or anything, but a few micromoles of some
    poisonous metal can't concern me if I
    don't make a habit of it.
    No, and cans today usually don't have the lead solder to be
    concerned > with.

    I wonder when the last time they did was.

    I'm not sure--would probably be able to research it on Google or some
    place similar if I really wanted to knnow.

    OK, I forgot that New England, especially BAH-ston accent.
    Talking > ML> with > my physical therapist yesterday--he was
    surprised I'd grown up > ML> in the > northeast. He guess it was
    Georgia or some other southern > ML> state.
    Well ... you don't talk fast and rude like
    the northeast stereotype.
    No, never have, never will. The southern accent has stayed--we left
    NC > in 1983 when Steve joined the Army. 20 years later, in HI, I had people > asking me what part of the south I was from.

    People kept asking me whether I was from
    Chicago (a city I've never lived within
    250 miles of).

    Well, you don't sound like the typical guy from near Boston either. (G)


    Also the more to take care of--the big ones can go thru a lot
    of dog > ML> > chow. Grooming them can be a bit of a challenge too.
    Yeah, that's where we got on this
    conversation - the unwisdom of Lilli
    getting a big dog.
    Is she still thinking about it?

    One can't tell, but it wouldn't be the first
    time anyone ever lengthily considered something
    bad for one.

    No, but this time you might be able to influence a decision for the
    better.

    We encountered one subminiature poodle yesterday
    who had this crazy fondness for collard greens and black-eyed peas.
    Makes you wonder what else it eats. Probably not dog food.
    Oh, only the daintiest of viands, no doubt.
    On the finest china and crystal, of course. (G)

    At least on people dishes.

    Mmore than just licking plates after the human has eaten off of them. My
    dad used to put his cereal bowl (with a bit of milk still in it) down
    for the cat de jure. it wasn't fine china, more like Pyrex tho.

    Probably a couple marks, then.
    About right, as I recall.
    I don't have any marks left - I did find
    some francs lying around, though.
    I've got some DM, some pfennig, I think some Swiss rappen and
    francs, > and a number of other small coinage from various countries squirreled > away somewhere.

    Swiss francs are still good, and they're now
    worth a buck (they were probably closer to
    half that last time you blew through there).
    Rappen are no longer legal tender but in

    Interesting--what do they use for amounts of less than one franc?

    sufficient quantity can be changed at banks
    for other currency. These are all perfect
    candidates for UNICEF.

    Or a kid's coin collection.

    Don't know what our picnic status for this year will
    be--depends on > ML> the > knee. Now that I have a late March date
    for surgery, VT may be > ML> out also.
    Show up if you can, as will we all.
    To be considered.

    What annoys me about some of my friends and
    acquaintances is that they figure someone else
    is going to do it, so why should I recycle or
    conserve? In vain do I remonstrate with them
    that the more people do the right thing, the
    better the results.
    That's why we do it--because other people don't. We do use paper
    towels > and napkins, but all white, no dye for prints.

    With these there's the massive convenience
    factor, plus as with dishwashing there's a
    point at which disposal costs less than the
    soap and water would.

    Yes, and the first few years we were married, we had no washer and dryer
    so it made a lot more sense to use paper. My grandparents used to use
    cloth napkins--don't know but what there might still be some silver
    napkin rings squirreled away in one of the boxes of stuff my brother has
    to go thru.


    I don't have a thing for hot liquids nor
    even for cold. I;m distrustful of Nalgene,
    though, as I'm sure that it will be proven
    to be carcinogenic, a worse problem than
    lead or cholesterol or anything like that.
    Hopefully long after we're gone.

    I speculate that that's what killed my sister.

    Interesting, I presume you've got some dots connected but not enough to
    give you the full picture?

    You should see the holes in my tuxedo.
    Don't see the need for a new one?
    No, why would I?
    Now that you're retired, why bother?

    I wouldn't ever have bothered unless the
    thing hung from shreds from my shoulders.
    Anyway, I still do a few concerts - though
    have recently been given the opportunity to
    "voluntarily" retire from one of my groups.

    Will you? Or will you stick around, making music for years to come?

    No, and once we grow up/move away from home, we can eat
    whatever we > ML> went > (or not eat what we chose not to).
    But so many people are content with or maybe
    even are more comfortable with the same old
    same old.
    True, but it's nice to know that there is (and I took) an option to break out of the same old, same old.

    I love the same old same old and also love
    the new and exciting. I really do have it in
    me to be a world-class life-lover. Someone
    recently pointed out that for a person who
    likes food, it's weird for me to be able to
    eat the same thing for days or weeks on end;


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Saturday, January 12, 2019 18:50:22
    Hi Michael,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    my response being, yes, just so long as it
    tastes good, why not.

    And when it ceases to taste good, you will stop eating it, move on to
    something else. (G)

    I use just a bit--if the recipe calls for a teaspoon of
    vanilla > ML> extract, > I'll sub an equal amount of mint. More than
    that and I'll > ML> use some
    vanilla, some mint. Peppermint, not spearmint or mixed mint;
    the > ML> latter > 2 don't taste right mixed with chocolate.
    I'm guessing that fudge is so sweet that minting
    it would put me in mind of toothpaste.
    They have distinctly different tastes to me; I don't buy chocolate
    mint > flavored toothpaste, nor do I make/buy fudge with all the
    chemicals that > toothpaste has.

    Just because smelly cheese tastes like
    feet doesn't mean that it is feet.

    No, but mint in toothpaste is a different taste than mint in fudge.


    Limburger pizza
    Categories: starter, fusion, diffusion, dairy, starch, wwtt
    Servings: 8

    Since Steve won't let Limburger into the house, I'll have to pass on
    this recipe. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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