• 796 travel was crusty etc +

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thursday, January 10, 2019 10:17:24
    It was never my favorite, and (oddly because of my
    similarly vexed relations with the licorice family)
    I've preferred the Asian basils, with their fennel/
    anise notes, to the European varieties, even in
    tomato dishes. My preferences can seem paradoxical
    at times, even to me.
    I never used it until I married Steve. His mom's sauce recipe called for
    it in the dried form. We've also grown/used it fresh but that way can be
    a bit too strong for me. Guess I ought to try other types than the

    I wouldn't say the fresh is stronger, just
    different. Dried has a more tealike flavor.
    Fresh has a more basillike flavor.

    common basil, or reduce the amount I use when I use the fresh. We all
    have taste quirks so just consider yourself "normal" if you like the
    Asian basils, but not fennel or anise. (G)

    I don't really think about that, either. Most
    of my cooking, unless it's consciously done
    to someone else's specs or preference, is
    done to mine, and people can like it or lump
    it (votevver dot minns).

    If there's a good dessert waiting, sure.
    There was cherry or apple pie; I went with the former.
    A good cherry pie can be celestial. Those ordinary
    ones with the bright red fruit and the cornstarchy
    glue, not so much.
    The crust was out of a box but Mom has had her health challenges over
    the last decade or so, so I'm not faulting her. Cherries were fresh,

    I discovered recently that frozen crust can
    be perfectly okay. Not sure about out of a
    box, because wou;dn't that require lots of
    stabilizers and weird artificial ingredients?

    that she had frozen, no artificial color or "glue" in them. I did have a piece of the apple pie, warmed with almond milk and a bit of cheddar
    cheese, the next morning for breakfast.

    Sounds better than the cherry.

    Yeah, you're pretty traditional folks.
    In a number of ways, quite so. Other ways, not as.
    Well, you may be not so traditional culturally.
    I highly respect you both for your willingness
    to go out on a culinary limb the way many of
    your friends and acquaintances (mine, too)
    probably are not.
    My form of rebellion? (G)

    A pretty mild rebellion and one that
    seems to have turned out well for you.

    There's a long and honorable history of such;
    the ancient Greeks had whole catalogues of
    those kinds of figures of speech.
    But not "It's all Greek to me". (G)
    I forget which rhetorical device that term
    falls under, but you can be assured the
    Greeks had a word for it. Some kind of
    metalepsis maybe.
    I did know at one time, Spanish, maybe, but have forgotten. Not that it
    is important.

    It's all Spanish to me.

    Cajeta
    Categories: Mexian, sweet, celebrity
    Yield: 3 c

    64 fl goat milk or a combination of goat milk and cow's
    - or even all cow's milk (use whole milk in all cases)
    2 c sugar
    2 in cinnamon stick, preferably Mexican canela
    1/2 ts baking soda dissolved in
    1 Tb water

    In a 6-qt pot (preferably a Dutch oven or Mexican copper
    cazo), combine the milk, sugar and cinnamon stick and
    set over medium heat. Stir regularly until the milk
    comes to a simmer (all the sugar should have dissolved).
    Remove the pot from the heat and stir in the dissolved
    baking soda - it˙ll foam up if the goat milk is acidic.
    When the bubbles subside, return the pot to the heat.
    Adjust the heat to maintain the mixture at a brisk simmer.
    Cook, stirring regularly, until the mixture turns pale
    golden, about 1 hr.

    Begin stirring frequently as the mixture colors to
    caramel-brown and thickens to the consistency of maple
    syrup (you'll notice the bubbles becoming larger and
    glassier). Stir regularly so nothing sticks to the
    bottom of the pot. Test a couple of drops on a cold
    plate: When cool, the cajeta should be the consistency
    of a caramel sauce. If the cooled cajeta is thicker
    like caramel candy, stir in a tablespoon or so of water
    and remove from the heat; if too runny, keep cooking.

    Pour the cajeta through a fine-mesh strainer set over a
    bowl or a wide-mouth storage jar. When cool, cover and
    refrigerate until you're ready to serve. Warming the
    cajeta before serving (a microwave oven is efficient
    here) makes it extra delicious.

    Working Ahead: Cajeta keeps for a month or more in the
    refrigerator. Keep it tightly covered to keep it from
    absorbing other flavors.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Thursday, January 10, 2019 21:04:46
    Hi Michael,

    It was never my favorite, and (oddly because of my
    similarly vexed relations with the licorice family)
    I've preferred the Asian basils, with their fennel/
    anise notes, to the European varieties, even in
    tomato dishes. My preferences can seem paradoxical
    at times, even to me.
    I never used it until I married Steve. His mom's sauce recipe called
    for > it in the dried form. We've also grown/used it fresh but that
    way can be > a bit too strong for me. Guess I ought to try other types than the

    I wouldn't say the fresh is stronger, just
    different. Dried has a more tealike flavor.
    Fresh has a more basillike flavor.

    Fresh definately has a distinctive taste to it, in some ways, almost as
    strong as cilantro. It's one that works well in larger quantities for
    some things, but not for others. I'd put more of it into my red sauce
    than I would add to a caprese type salad.

    common basil, or reduce the amount I use when I use the fresh. We
    all > have taste quirks so just consider yourself "normal" if you like
    the
    Asian basils, but not fennel or anise. (G)

    I don't really think about that, either. Most
    of my cooking, unless it's consciously done
    to someone else's specs or preference, is
    done to mine, and people can like it or lump
    it (votevver dot minns).

    Apparantly a lot of people are satisfied with the way you cook for
    yourself. (G)


    If there's a good dessert waiting, sure.
    There was cherry or apple pie; I went with the former.
    A good cherry pie can be celestial. Those ordinary
    ones with the bright red fruit and the cornstarchy
    glue, not so much.
    The crust was out of a box but Mom has had her health challenges
    over > the last decade or so, so I'm not faulting her. Cherries were fresh,

    I discovered recently that frozen crust can
    be perfectly okay. Not sure about out of a
    box, because wou;dn't that require lots of
    stabilizers and weird artificial ingredients?

    Probably so; I didn't look at the box but it was not the greatest
    tasting crust I've ever had.

    that she had frozen, no artificial color or "glue" in them. I did
    have a > piece of the apple pie, warmed with almond milk and a bit of cheddar
    cheese, the next morning for breakfast.

    Sounds better than the cherry.

    It had the same kind of crust as the cherry. With both of them, the
    filling was a lot better tasting than the crust.


    Yeah, you're pretty traditional folks.
    In a number of ways, quite so. Other ways, not as.
    Well, you may be not so traditional culturally.
    I highly respect you both for your willingness
    to go out on a culinary limb the way many of
    your friends and acquaintances (mine, too)
    probably are not.
    My form of rebellion? (G)

    A pretty mild rebellion and one that
    seems to have turned out well for you.

    Seems to have; my family (siblings) appear to be enjoying my cooking and
    not criticising it. When we went up to NY after my dad passed away, my
    brother asked me to make some ziti for the family. I didn't get any
    complaints about it. (G)


    There's a long and honorable history of such;
    the ancient Greeks had whole catalogues of
    those kinds of figures of speech.
    But not "It's all Greek to me". (G)
    I forget which rhetorical device that term
    falls under, but you can be assured the
    Greeks had a word for it. Some kind of
    metalepsis maybe.
    I did know at one time, Spanish, maybe, but have forgotten. Not that
    it > is important.

    It's all Spanish to me.

    Si. (G)


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    Ruth
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