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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Friday, December 21, 2018 10:49:24
    This does seem to be a community that strongly supports the arts... and apparently has enough well-endowed patrons to keep it up....
    Interesting for a largely passe city (no fault
    of its own, of course), although someone I know from
    the area claims that Syracuse is even more gone-by
    these days.
    Syracuse is indeed... they've lost their orchestra already, and some
    others of their arts community have gone under.... They do have good
    colleges still, though....

    Colleges often don't sustain decent orchestras
    any more.

    and supply that strong endowment to more than just the RPO.... I keep being amazed at the successful pledge drives for WXXI in all its permutations despite the seemingly over-the-top goals they set....
    How OTT can a radio station's requests be?
    The radio side of things is regularly reaching for 200,000 and up for
    each of their 3 major pledge drives... No idea what the TV side of
    things is reaching for in their drives.... Granted, the radio side is
    now 2 FM stations, no, 3 FM stations, and at least one AM station, plus Reachout Radio (service for the blind and visually impaired, to read
    papers, ads, etc to them over a special radio).... I remember when
    50,000 was a stretch for the drives, now they might do that in a day...

    Do bear in mind that life in general costs more
    than it used to. Two C-notes isn't that much of
    a stretch any more. A handful of donors looking
    for big deductions, and there you are.

    LA, whereupon New York tanked, so she's been
    hired back to re-prop-up that orchestra).
    Apparently she has some gift in that department....
    It's peculiar, and she's the only arts
    executive I know of possessed of that Midas
    touch.
    Does NY appreciate her touch better the second time around...?

    I don't know the circumstance behind her leaving
    but was given to understand that LA paid her a
    real corporation CEO salary, and New York had to
    come up with a big payday to get her back.

    Let's see. Chicago, Cleveland, Boston, New York,
    Philly for sure being the 5, but there are probably
    20 whose local boosters try to claim the next few
    spots - sort of like football, but maybe a touch
    more civilized. LA for sure, but that's like the
    only real for sure. Atlanta, Minnesota, St. Paul Chamber,
    National, Detroit, St. Louis, Houston, Dallas, San Fran,
    Seattle, maybe Baltimore and Pittsburgh, and yes, your
    beloved Rochester. There are probably a few other
    candidates which I've forgotten. At some point it's
    a senseless exercise anyway - the quality of
    performance of a less regarded group may exceed that of
    a big 5, given additional rehearsal (the famous
    orchestras work on insufficient rehearsal).
    That's rather what I was thinking... both the ambiguity of the list, and
    the blurred edges of performance quality.... :)

    I've heard some pretty fine performances by
    less than stellar groups. Patient coaching and
    lots of rehearsal can go a long way but is
    economically unfeasible for upper-grade
    professional groups.

    I grew up with the Philly one, broadcasts on the station here have been NYPhil, Chicago, Cleveland, Milwaukee, San Fran, LA, Pittsbugh, in
    Ah, yes, Milwaukee.
    That's the one that was on tonight... ;)

    What was the program, and how did they do?

    season rotations, along with 2-3 times through broadcasting the RPO season.... Symphony Cast on Friday nights highlights a much wider range
    of orchestras, including Minnesota, StPaul, Houston, Seattle, Baltimore and others, including some of the ones we get the season broadcasts
    of...
    One wonders how much outlay there is for these, in
    fact how much cash flows in any direction.
    The RPO is, I think, a service between the RPO and WXXI, with the
    musicians donating their performance... But for the others, we are
    always reminded during pledge drives that the braodcasts are
    expensive.... dunno how much gets back to the particular orchestra...

    I presume that the musicians' union got a good
    talking-to at some point regarding outreach and
    finances and such.

    I couldn't read my music for the concert on Sunday.
    Not good... what did you do....? learn it by rote....?
    Memorized it as best as possible by sticking
    the notes in my face at a distance of a few
    inches. It was an imperfect learning experience
    and an imperfect performance.
    Did you have a starring or a supporting role...?

    The former.

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    Stephen Ceideburg 2 Mandarines, zest and
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    200 ml Raw rice 40 g Slivered almonds
    550 ml Water 100 g Sugar
    1 Carrot 1/2 ts Saffron threads
    2 tb Olive oill 1 tb Sultanas

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    Wash 200 mL rice in several changes of water until the water runs clear.
    Then soak the rice in 550 mL water for about an hour. Drain in a sieve.

    Cut 1 carrot into fine diagonal slices, then julienne the slices. In a
    large pot which can go from stove top to oven, heat 2 tablespoons of
    olive
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    from
    the oil (reserving the oil in the pot) and drain.

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    the
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    together with 40 g slivered almonds, 100g sugar and half a teaspoon of
    saffron threads. Bring to the boil and cook gently for about half an
    hour,
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    stirring, for a few minutes more. The syrup should be quite thick but not
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    In the carrot pot, reheat the oil and stir in the drained rice until it
    is
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Saturday, December 22, 2018 21:26:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 12-21-18 09:49 <=-

    This does seem to be a community that strongly supports the arts...
    and apparently has enough well-endowed patrons to keep it up....
    Interesting for a largely passe city (no fault
    of its own, of course), although someone I know from
    the area claims that Syracuse is even more gone-by
    these days.
    Syracuse is indeed... they've lost their orchestra already, and some
    others of their arts community have gone under.... They do have good colleges still, though....
    Colleges often don't sustain decent orchestras
    any more.

    Other than colleges with music schools, I'd not expect that much support
    for orchestras by colleges anyway, though.... maybe Ivy League,
    though...?

    and supply that strong endowment to more than just the RPO.... I keep being amazed at the successful pledge drives for WXXI in all its permutations despite the seemingly over-the-top goals they set....
    How OTT can a radio station's requests be?
    The radio side of things is regularly reaching for 200,000 and up for
    each of their 3 major pledge drives... No idea what the TV side of
    things is reaching for in their drives.... Granted, the radio side is
    now 2 FM stations, no, 3 FM stations, and at least one AM station, plus Reachout Radio (service for the blind and visually impaired, to read
    papers, ads, etc to them over a special radio).... I remember when
    50,000 was a stretch for the drives, now they might do that in a day...
    Do bear in mind that life in general costs more
    than it used to. Two C-notes isn't that much of
    a stretch any more. A handful of donors looking
    for big deductions, and there you are.

    Well, yes, there is that.... Used to be that for a $60 pledge you'd get
    the card that gave you all sorts of discounts in the area... now that's
    for $120 and up....

    LA, whereupon New York tanked, so she's been
    hired back to re-prop-up that orchestra).
    Apparently she has some gift in that department....
    It's peculiar, and she's the only arts
    executive I know of possessed of that Midas
    touch.
    Does NY appreciate her touch better the second time around...?
    I don't know the circumstance behind her leaving
    but was given to understand that LA paid her a
    real corporation CEO salary, and New York had to
    come up with a big payday to get her back.

    And they figured out that they'd lost out on something good when she was
    lured away from them... :)

    Let's see. Chicago, Cleveland, Boston, New York,
    Philly for sure being the 5, but there are probably
    20 whose local boosters try to claim the next few
    spots - sort of like football, but maybe a touch
    more civilized. LA for sure, but that's like the
    only real for sure. Atlanta, Minnesota, St. Paul Chamber,
    National, Detroit, St. Louis, Houston, Dallas, San Fran,
    Seattle, maybe Baltimore and Pittsburgh, and yes, your
    beloved Rochester. There are probably a few other
    candidates which I've forgotten. At some point it's
    a senseless exercise anyway - the quality of
    performance of a less regarded group may exceed that of
    a big 5, given additional rehearsal (the famous
    orchestras work on insufficient rehearsal).
    That's rather what I was thinking... both the ambiguity of the list, and
    the blurred edges of performance quality.... :)
    I've heard some pretty fine performances by
    less than stellar groups. Patient coaching and
    lots of rehearsal can go a long way but is
    economically unfeasible for upper-grade
    professional groups.

    And I've heard some barely ok ones from some other less than stellar
    groups... which shall remain unnamed.... :) Where would you place
    Buffalo.... that's another one that shows up on Symphony Cast
    regularly... and on the regular radio programs, too...

    I grew up with the Philly one, broadcasts on the station here have been NYPhil, Chicago, Cleveland, Milwaukee, San Fran, LA, Pittsbugh, in
    Ah, yes, Milwaukee.
    That's the one that was on tonight... ;)
    What was the program, and how did they do?

    Mendelssohn: A Midsummer Night's Dream (Overture, Nocturn and Scherzo), Jalbert: Violin Concerto, and Vaughn Williams: A Sea Symphony. They did creditably... :)

    season rotations, along with 2-3 times through broadcasting the RPO season.... Symphony Cast on Friday nights highlights a much wider range of orchestras, including Minnesota, StPaul, Houston, Seattle, Baltimore and others, including some of the ones we get the season broadcasts
    of...
    One wonders how much outlay there is for these, in
    fact how much cash flows in any direction.
    The RPO is, I think, a service between the RPO and WXXI, with the
    musicians donating their performance... But for the others, we are
    always reminded during pledge drives that the broadcasts are
    expensive.... dunno how much gets back to the particular orchestra...
    I presume that the musicians' union got a good
    talking-to at some point regarding outreach and
    finances and such.

    One would expect... There appears to be actually quite a lot of
    cooperation amongst all the various arts groups locally...

    I couldn't read my music for the concert on Sunday.
    Not good... what did you do....? learn it by rote....?
    Memorized it as best as possible by sticking
    the notes in my face at a distance of a few
    inches. It was an imperfect learning experience
    and an imperfect performance.
    Did you have a starring or a supporting role...?
    The former.

    Harder to hide.... Was the imperfection obvious to all, or just mostly
    to yourself....?

    ttyl neb

    ... You are always welcome in my territory at your own risk.

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