• 704 rib roast + words was diets

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Friday, December 21, 2018 10:48:28
    Thing is the better steaks can't be had
    from the supermarket even on special order.
    What kind of steak might that be?

    I strongly prefer USDA Prime or the equivalent,
    probably wet-aged, though in many beef-producing
    places they prefer not aged at all. My preference
    is sirloin strip first, probably chuck tender
    second, because ribeye can be too flabby.

    Our dilemma for Christmas dinner (in Cambridge)
    is that Harriet, a must-satisfy guest, doesn't
    eat the time-honored lobster and must have beef,
    but to get a steak worthy of the occasion we'd
    have to pay $25 a pound or more, and still it
    won't be as good as what Grill 23 offers.
    I would choke at having to pay $25 per pound for beef steak, except
    perhaps at a restaurant.

    Depends, though my favored price point is 10.99
    and USDA Choice with me picking the meat. Actually,
    at Costco, it's other customers who do the picking,
    because they tend to shun properly marbled meat.

    I'm thinking of saying screw it all and getting
    a 3-to-4-lb standing rib of the lower Choice
    classification and roast it up and then cut out
    the heart and serve it to her, making up in
    quantity what quality may be slightly inadequate.
    Just so happens that Safeway had a sale on rib roast this week. I got a
    5 pound, 2 rib roast for $5 per pound. Can't say if it was lower choice

    That's more or less what I was thinking of, but
    maybe 6.99/lb "semi-boneless" (evil and misleading
    name) - you don't get a break for taking the section
    of backbone, which is useful to me but not as much
    as meat.

    or upper choice (nor would I know how to spot the difference). It was a

    There's no official definition (of course), but as
    a rule of thumb, the less red and more tending toward
    pink the interior muscle the better.

    good looking roast with not too much fat (yea -- I know that is a
    detriment, not a plus for you). I did the cook at 450 for 15 minutes,
    turn down to 350 and finish cooking until the meat thermometer reads
    what you want. My choice was to stick it near the edge and cook to
    110F. Our first meal was a moderate slice off of one edge plus one of

    That's nice and rare, what I'd like for some cuts,
    but for rib roast a tiny bit over for me (well,
    actually, I've been known to be best pleased by
    raw rib roast and filet). What I've exerimented
    with for getting the exterior brown and the
    inside properly done is cranking the oven as high
    as it will go and throwing the roast in, turning
    the oven off immediately, letting the meat sit
    inside until the part near the surface is done
    to the most barbarous palates at table (which for
    me means people who like medium-rare to medium).

    the rib bones for me. Next meal ditto with a slice off of the other
    outside edge. Tonight, I did a slice off of the middle and will have
    two more slices to go before the roast is finished. The middle is
    probably just past your desired level or rare. There may well be a few leftover pieces which will become a black bean and beef stir fry. Not
    bad, six meals for about $25.

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    Title: Egyptian Lentils
    1 c Lentils
    1 1/2 c Regular rice
    1 c Elbow macaroni
    3 tb Oil
    2 Fresh chili peppers
    1 1/2 c Tomato sauce
    2 tb Vinegar
    1 lg Onion
    From: Earl Shelsby

    This is not an intrinsically horrible recipe,
    but it's woefully underseasoned and simplistic.

    +

    How many points does one get for each
    iteration of that procedure?
    On the original WC, you got a random amount between 40 and 46. On WC2,
    you get 25. OTOH, I seem to recall that the clues were more expensive
    on WC (120?). On WC2 they are 50.

    Okay, so no substantial differences. Perhaps
    version 2 is meant for a younger audience?

    Koshary
    categories: Egyptian, vegam, main
    servings: 4 to 6

    h - Tomato and Garlic Sauce
    1/2 Tb olive oil
    1/2 Tb garlic, chopped
    16 oz cn tomato sauce
    1/2 c water
    1/4 c vinegar
    h - Koshary
    1 lg onion, thinly sliced
    6 oz dried brown lentils
    8 oz elbow macaroni, or any other compact pasta
    2 c long-grain rice
    3 c water
    2 sticks cinnamon
    3 cardamom pods
    1/2 ts whole cumin
    1/2 ts whole coriander
    4 1/2 Tb olive oil
    Salt and pepper

    Rice, Lentils, and Pasta with Tomato Garlic Sauce

    For the sauce. Pour olive oil into a saucepan set
    over medium heat. Add garlic and cook until
    fragrant, about 30 sec. Add the tomato sauce.
    Simmer this until slightly thickened, about 10 min.
    Add the water and vinegar, and turn the heat to
    high. When it starts to boil, immediately turn off
    the heat. Transfer to a medium bowl, season with
    salt, and set aside.

    For the Koshary. Pour 1 Tb olive oil into a heavy-
    bottomed 12-in stainless steel skillet set over
    medium-high heat. When shimmering, add onion and
    stir well. Once coated in the oil, reduce heat to
    low and cook until heavily caramelized, about
    45 to 60 min. Stir often.

    Meanwhile, preheat the oven to 350F. Fill a pot
    with water and bring to a boil over high heat.
    Add the lentils and reduce heat to medium-low.
    Simmer until just cooked, about 15 min. Drain
    lentils and set aside to cool.

    Fill a pot with water and bring to a boil over high
    heat. Add pasta and cook al dente, drain, and dump
    in a bowl. Add 1 Tb oil, and toss well.

    Pour 2 Tb olive oil into a Dutch oven set over
    medium heat. Add the cinnamon cook until fragrant.
    Add the cardamom, cumin, and rice. Stir well, and
    cook until the spices are aromatic, and about half
    of the rice is opaque. Then pour in the water.
    Bring it to a boil, stir well, and cover. Place in
    the oven and cook for 13 min. If done, fluff with
    a fork, and season with salt to taste.

    Place another skillet over medium-high heat. Pour
    in 1/2 Tb oil. When shimmering, add the pasta.
    Let it cook undisturbed for 1 min or until it is
    crusty on the bottom. Toss well, and cook until
    it is toasty and slightly chewy. Transfer pasta
    to a bowl. Add another 1/2 Tb oil to the pan.
    When shimmering, add the lentils and cook them
    until they are slightly toasted, about 30 sec.
    Transfer them to another bowl.

    Scoop out some rice onto a plate. Top with a scoop
    of pasta, lentils, tomato sauce, and some of the
    caramelized onions.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Saturday, December 22, 2018 03:26:06
    On 12-21-18 09:48, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about 704 rib roast + words wa <=-


    Thing is the better steaks can't be had
    from the supermarket even on special order.
    What kind of steak might that be?

    I strongly prefer USDA Prime or the equivalent,
    probably wet-aged, though in many beef-producing
    places they prefer not aged at all. My preference
    is sirloin strip first, probably chuck tender
    second, because ribeye can be too flabby.

    I am not aware of any place where we can buy wet aged beef. Wegmans had
    dry aged beef at horrendous prices, especially for meat that does not
    look appetizing at all. Our beef purchases are the BJs porterhouse
    (choice) when it looks very good and Costco's prime sirloin. Prices are usually about $8 and $9 respectively. We use the sirloin for cooking
    inside during winter, and the porterhouse on the grill outside.


    Just so happens that Safeway had a sale on rib roast this week. I got a
    5 pound, 2 rib roast for $5 per pound. Can't say if it was lower choice

    That's more or less what I was thinking of, but
    maybe 6.99/lb "semi-boneless" (evil and misleading
    name) - you don't get a break for taking the section
    of backbone, which is useful to me but not as much
    as meat.

    This roast had the chine(?) bone off and just two beef rib bones on.


    This is not an intrinsically horrible recipe,
    but it's woefully underseasoned and simplistic.

    Many of the lentil recipes in this month's selection would fit that
    bill. I am thinking of what to select for next month -- any hints or
    requests?

    <<Talking about word connect game>>
    Okay, so no substantial differences. Perhaps
    version 2 is meant for a younger audience?

    I don't see that. Our only reason for switching was that the higher
    levels got a bit too tedious without spending lots of points. Not as
    much fun.

    I don't think that this one is either simplistic or underseasoned -- but
    then you might up some of the seasonings.

    One observation though -- why use the peel of a lemon instead of the
    zest. Seems to me that would add the bitter pith.

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    Title: Lemon Lentils with Curried Shrimp
    Categories: Shrimp, Beans
    Yield: 6 servings

    MMMMM--------------------------LENTILS-------------------------------
    1/4 c Plus 1 tbs corn oil
    1 md Onion(s), sliced
    1 lb Dried green
    -or brown lentils
    -picked over and washed
    2 2" pieces cinnamon stick
    1/2 ts Cayenne
    3/4 ts Ginger, peeled and minced
    Peel of 1 large lemon
    -minced (about 2 tsp)
    3 1/2 c Chicken stock
    2 Bay leaves
    1/2 sm Onion(s), minced
    1 md Garlic clove(s), minced
    Salt and pepper to taste
    Juice of 1 large lemon
    -(about 1 tbs)
    3 tb Cilantro, coarsely chopped

    MMMMM------------------------SHRIMP CURRY-----------------------------
    1 1/2 lb Large shrimp (about 36)
    2 c Water
    5 Black peppercorns
    1 sm Stalk celery
    1 sm Bay leaf
    Few drops white vinegar
    Salt to taste
    1/3 All-purpose flour
    1/2 ts Cayenne
    4 tb Butter
    4 Thick scallions
    -mince white and green
    -parts separately
    1 tb Curry powder
    1/3 c Heavy cream
    Juice of 1 lime (1 tbs)
    Pepper to taste
    3 tb Cilantro, coarsely chopped

    Lentils:

    In a 5-qt. Dutch oven, heat ¬ cup of the oil and add the sliced
    onions. Saut‚, stirring often, over medium heat until onions are
    wilted. Stir in lentils, cinnamon sticks, cayenne, ginger and lemon
    peel and cook, stirring often, for about 5 minutes. Add chicken stock
    and bay leaves and bring to a boil. Lower heat, cover, and simmer for
    15 minutes.

    Meanwhile, heat remaining oil in a small skillet. Add minced onions,
    garlic, salt and pepper and saut‚, stirring occasionally, over low
    heat until the onions begin to brown slightly. Set aside.

    After 15 minutes, when lentils are partly cooked, remove and discard
    cinnamon sticks and bay leaves. Stir in onion-garlic mixture and the
    lemon juice and continue to simmer for 10-15 minutes more or until
    lentils are tender and still maintain their shape. Add additional
    stock if lentils seem too dry. Stir in the cilantro. Set lentils
    aside while preparing shrimp or prepare lentils 1 day in advance and
    add a few tablespoons of water when reheating them before serving.

    Shrimp Curry:

    Peel shrimp and reserve shells. Place shrimp on a plate lined with a
    paper towel. Cover with plastic wrap and refrigerate until needed.
    This can be done several hours ahead.

    In a 2-qt. saucepan, add shrimp shells, water, peppercorns, celery,
    bay leaf and vinegar. Add salt to taste and bring to a boil, simmer,
    uncovered, for 15-20 minutes. Strain into a measuring cup and set
    aside. In a plastic bag, mix the flour and cayenne. Take off 1 tbs
    and set aside. Place the shrimp in the bag and shake to coat evenly.
    shake the shrimp off to remove excess flour and place on a wire rack
    for 10 minutes to set the coating.

    In a 12-inch skillet, heat butter until very hot. Add the shrimp in
    one layer and cook over high heat for 1 minute. Turn and saut‚ for
    another minute. Transfer shrimp to a plate as they are cooked and set
    aside. The shrimp should be slightly undercooked.

    Reduce heat to medium and in the same skillet add the white part of
    the scallions only, reserving the green tops, and saut‚, stirring, for
    1 minute. Add the curry powder and the reserve tablespoon of
    cayenne-flour and stir. Add the reserved shrimp stock and bring to a
    boil. Lower heat, add the cream and simmer until bubbly. REturn
    shrimp to the skillet and cook, stirring, for about 1 minute, or
    until heated through. Add the lime and the green scallion tops and
    adjust the seasoning.

    Spoon shrimp into the center of a large serving platter and surround
    them with the rewarmed lentils. Garnish with cilantro.

    The Versatile Grain
    and the
    Elegant Bean
    by Sheryl and Mel London
    ISBN 0-671-76106-4
    pg 372-373
    ... From the file BEANS.ZIP

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