Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 11-19-18 11:43 <=-

I had a quartet for a brief time whose other violinist
shortly thereafter went on to be concertmaster of the
New World Symphony, so that ended that. Anyhow, she
fully admitted that she couldn't read music because of
too intense Suzuki training in her childhood, and
playing with the likes of me made her stretch her
boundaries.

She must have learned to read fairly well to become concertmaster

Yeah, and then she became concertmaster of the San
Jose Symphony but topped out there. The fact that
she got spewed out into the world of professional
orchestras when they were bankrupting left and
right didn't much help.

Not the best climate to be in, to be sure....

of an orchestra.... or did she still learn all the music by rote....?

There's reading and there's reading. She was a
below average reader. I was an above average
reader. Given varying amounts of practice our
level of competency with a particular piece
would intersect, and with further study she
would invariably outstrip me.

And, true, reading is only part of it... :)

But there are tons of things that are well learned by
rote and perhaps learned only that way until the child
brain makes patterns out of what otherwise would be
disjoint bits of information.

When I taught piano, I had a book of rote duets (my Aunt Sylvia had used them, and gave me a copy) that were very useful with any beginner

At the beginning levels, repetition is an
absolute necessity.

True.

student... You'd show the pupil which notes to play, and when to change,
and then the teacher part made it into music... Taught rhythm, gave a feeling of accomplishment, and were fun to do as well... :) But I also always started with teaching the rudiments of reading the music... I did also use the rote duets with a few developmentally disabled that I
wasn't teaching per se, but the duets were sort of a teaching for them...

Undoubtedly. Disabled might mean an inability to
go beyond rote learning at all, but there are
plenty of delayed students who can get beyond
that stage at least to some degree.

I had one Down's student that wanted to learn to read books, but was
finding it difficult... I took her on as a piano student, and we went
through the Primer book of John Thompson's Easiest a couple of times...
she did grasp some of it, but when we went back to the beginning, it was obvious that not all of it retained.... the second time through was
easier, though... And having learned that symbols meant sounds, she was
also able to learn to read words some, too... :)

It's possible to sort a lot of things molecule
by molecule, perhaps even atom by atom, and then
in a world of unlimited resources, they could be
exactly replicated, unless it was discovered that
there were other rules at work.

Kinda what I was getting at.... the lack of unlimited resources, and
the possibility of other rules at work....

If it's important enough, the resources can be
retargeted to that purpose. Other rules are
likely to get into the metaphysical.

If considered important enough, anyway.... ;)

It's amazing or amusing to me how much the needs of pets
affect people's lives.

True. Richard's not immune to it, either....

A lot of otherwise sane-looking men go all
goopy over small cute animals.

The small cute animals really play it for all they are worth, too... ;)

They know on which side their kibble is buttered.

Just a bit of a mixed metaphor there... ;)

Who knows. Some of my friends have grandkids by
only one of theirs, the others sitting back
and not taking that responsibility. You don't
have a backup, though.

Nope... and so far any grandkids are just talk.... I may live to see
it, maybe not... ;0

But you're thinking logically.

Better than getting hung up emotionally on it... (G)

I'm certain they have had to hire people expressly to fix
other people's mistakes or malfeasances in this way.

Possibly... or perhaps the existing Customer Service and other
employees are simply further overworked.....

In which case there would be even more booboos for
the others to fix.

But you are thinking logically.... ;)

[g]

Yeah... we both do... (G)

ttyl neb

... "Another 7 days has gone by," mused Tom weakly.

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