Quoting Nancy Backus to Jim Weller <=-
Minivans killed the station wagon and now SUVs are killing the
unloved and inderrated minivan.
Volvo has been making station wagons right along and still do
Quoting Jim Weller to Nancy Backus on 11-10-18 22:19 <=-
Minivans killed the station wagon and now SUVs are killing the
unloved and inderrated minivan.
Volvo has been making station wagons right along and still do
Be that as it may, station wagons are a small and dwindling niche
market, about 1% of all passenger vehicle sales in North America.
Today, the top selling vehicle isn't a sedan, SUV, or compact
crossover. It's a pickup truck. The Ford F150 has been the #1
selling nameplate in North America for several years running now,
Why, I don't know as very few suburban housewoves are hauling heavy
cargo around.
NANCY BACKUS wrote to JIM WELLER <=-
Minivans killed the station wagon and now SUVs are killing the
unloved and inderrated minivan.
Volvo has been making station wagons right along and still do
Be that as it may, station wagons are a small and dwindling niche
market, about 1% of all passenger vehicle sales in North America.
True... We did have to look for a wagon, even 20 years ago, when
Richard decided we needed a vehicle that would make a good handicap transporting vehicle....
Today, the top selling vehicle isn't a sedan, SUV, or compact
crossover. It's a pickup truck. The Ford F150 has been the #1
selling nameplate in North America for several years running now,
Why, I don't know as very few suburban housewoves are hauling heavy
cargo around.
No, but they could, if they decided they needed to.... (G) Actually I
see mostly guys, often older boomer-types, driving them.... not sure
they are hauling heavy cargo around either, in most cases, though... :)
True... We did have to look for a wagon, even 20 years ago, when
Richard decided we needed a vehicle that would make a good handicap transporting vehicle....
Most of the people I know with handicap transport needs (wheelchairs, mobility scooters, etc.) use a cross-over or a Soccer-mom van. Some of
the organisations like Senior Center, Sally Anne, etc. use full-size
vans. All are easier to get into/out of than a low-sitting station
wagon.
That same obtains for old people (whose ranks I may join if I live
long enough). With an eye toward that eventuality I tend to pick
transport
for ease of entry/exit. And I may succumb to the attractions of a
cross over next go if standing up on alighting from my Beemer gets any tougher.
Today, the top selling vehicle isn't a sedan, SUV, or compact
crossover. It's a pickup truck. The Ford F150 has been the #1
selling nameplate in North America for several years running now,
Why, I don't know as very few suburban housewoves are hauling heavy
cargo around.
No, but they could, if they decided they needed to.... (G) Actually I
see mostly guys, often older boomer-types, driving them.... not sure
they are hauling heavy cargo around either, in most cases, though... :)
The heaviest thing most of them haul around is their "dunlap" beer
belly.
Quoting Dave Drum to Nancy Backus on 11-14-18 12:46 <=-
NANCY BACKUS wrote to JIM WELLER <=-
Volvo has been making station wagons right along and still do
Be that as it may, station wagons are a small and dwindling niche
market, about 1% of all passenger vehicle sales in North America.
True... We did have to look for a wagon, even 20 years ago, when
Richard decided we needed a vehicle that would make a good handicap
transporting vehicle....
Most of the people I know with handicap transport needs (wheelchairs, mobility scooters, etc.) use a cross-over or a Soccer-mom van.
Some of the organisations like Senior Center, Sally Anne, etc. use full-size vans. All are easier to get into/out of than a low-sitting station wagon.
That same obtains for old people (whose ranks I may join if I live
long enough). With an eye toward that eventuality I tend to pick
transport for ease of entry/exit. And I may succumb to the attractions
of a cross over next go if standing up on alighting from my Beemer gets any tougher.
Today, the top selling vehicle isn't a sedan, SUV, or compact
crossover. It's a pickup truck. The Ford F150 has been the #1
selling nameplate in North America for several years running now,
Why, I don't know as very few suburban housewoves are hauling heavy
cargo around.
No, but they could, if they decided they needed to.... (G) Actually I
see mostly guys, often older boomer-types, driving them.... not sure
they are hauling heavy cargo around either, in most cases, though... :)
The heaviest thing most of them haul around is their "dunlap" beer
belly.
On 11-15-18 13:39, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Dave Drum about vehicle trends <=-
Any low slung vehicle is a pain to get out of. The ones that are
easiest a for me are those that are just high enough up that I slide.
(G) Major downside of our truck is that when the door is open to the widest, it's a big reach out to grab & shut. I usually grab the arm
rest with my right hand, handle above the door with my left, and swing
in, pulling the door almost to closed.
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Most of the people I know with handicap transport needs (wheelchairs, mobility scooters, etc.) use a cross-over or a Soccer-mom van. Some of
the organisations like Senior Center, Sally Anne, etc. use full-size
vans. All are easier to get into/out of than a low-sitting station
wagon.
Any low slung vehicle is a pain to get out of. The ones that are
easiest a for me are those that are just high enough up that I slide.
(G) Major downside of our truck is that when the door is open to the widest, it's a big reach out to grab & shut. I usually grab the arm
rest with my right hand, handle above the door with my left, and swing
in, pulling the door almost to closed.
That same obtains for old people (whose ranks I may join if I live
long enough). With an eye toward that eventuality I tend to pick
transport for ease of entry/exit. And I may succumb to the
attractions of a cross over next go if standing up on alighting
from my Beemer gets any tougher.
We've had a couple of Ford Escapes--liked the design of the 09 version (built on a truck body) better than the 16 one. The latter was lower
down, more "streamlined" so the back end couldn't be packed as
efficiently with groceries or whatever. But, the 16 had the towing capacity that the 09 didn't so.............if we'd not gotten the
camper, we might still be driving the 09.
Today, the top selling vehicle isn't a sedan, SUV, or compact
crossover. It's a pickup truck. The Ford F150 has been the #1
selling nameplate in North America for several years running now,
Why, I don't know as very few suburban housewives are hauling heavy
cargo around.
Now available in diesel; we're consideering...............
No, but they could, if they decided they needed to.... (G) Actually I
see mostly guys, often older boomer-types, driving them.... not sure
they are hauling heavy cargo around either, in most cases, though... :)
The heaviest thing most of them haul around is their "dunlap" beer
belly.
Don't have any of those around here.
NANCY BACKUS wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
Volvo has been making station wagons right along and still do
Be that as it may, station wagons are a small and dwindling niche
market, about 1% of all passenger vehicle sales in North America.
True... We did have to look for a wagon, even 20 years ago, when
Richard decided we needed a vehicle that would make a good handicap
transporting vehicle....
Most of the people I know with handicap transport needs (wheelchairs, mobility scooters, etc.) use a cross-over or a Soccer-mom van.
We were transporting people in wheelchairs or with push-walkers that
could at least do a stand-pivot transfer... and the salient features
were the slim outside-of-car-to-seat so that one could just sit down
and swing the legs around, and the seat being able to be raised enough
to make that a smooth sit and rise again...
Some of the organisations like Senior Center, Sally Anne, etc. use full-size vans. All are easier to get into/out of than a low-sitting station wagon.
The full-size probably have a wheelchair ramp of some sort attached, too... Our Volvo station wagon isn't particularly low-sitting,
either... My sedan is more so, but it too is relatively easy for
someone disabled to get in and out of.... including me.... its seats
also can go up to make things easier, if necessary....
That same obtains for old people (whose ranks I may join if I live
long enough). With an eye toward that eventuality I tend to pick
transport for ease of entry/exit. And I may succumb to the attractions
of a cross over next go if standing up on alighting from my Beemer gets any tougher.
You might check out the Volvo just for the jollies... ;) But I'll acknowledge that the minivans and crossovers can also be easier to get
in and out of than most sedans and such... Recently a friend that has mobility issues went from a Ford Taurus to a Dodge Grand Caravan, and
was almost rapturous about how easy the van is to get in and out of...
Today, the top selling vehicle isn't a sedan, SUV, or compact
crossover. It's a pickup truck. The Ford F150 has been the #1
selling nameplate in North America for several years running now,
Why, I don't know as very few suburban housewoves are hauling heavy
cargo around.
No, but they could, if they decided they needed to.... (G) Actually I
see mostly guys, often older boomer-types, driving them.... not sure
they are hauling heavy cargo around either, in most cases, though... :)
The heaviest thing most of them haul around is their "dunlap" beer
belly.
Exactly.... :)
Any low slung vehicle is a pain to get out of. The ones that are
easiest a for me are those that are just high enough up that I slide.
I understand. I used to have a Triumph Spitfire sports car, and it
was really low. Lately, we tend to drive in my SUV because it is a
bit
higher than Gail's Acura and easier for her to get into. So, we understand where you are coming from with that comment.
(G) Major downside of our truck is that when the door is open to the widest, it's a big reach out to grab & shut. I usually grab the armand swing RH> in, pulling the door almost to closed.
rest with my right hand, handle above the door frame with my left,
Perhaps you should get your resident handy man to design some sort of
a hook that you could use to grab the handle and pull it in? He's
pretty good at that sort of thing!
Title: LENTIL AND MUSHROOM CURRY
Categories: Main dish, Ovolacto, Chicken
Yield: 4 Servings
Any low slung vehicle is a pain to get out of. The ones that areand swing RH> in, pulling the door almost to closed.
easiest a for me are those that are just high enough up that I slide.
(G) Major downside of our truck is that when the door is open to the widest, it's a big reach out to grab & shut. I usually grab the arm
rest with my right hand, handle above the door frame with my left,
On my work truck - same make as yours, just newer - if I open the door
to its widest I have to lean waaaaay out to pull it shut. I've found
that the bottom part of the door - where the in-door beverage holder
is makes a convenient grab place without leaning out quite so far.
Also the sloping part of the door. But be sure to get your hand out
of the way when it swings closed .... and never mind how I learned
that.
That same obtains for old people (whose ranks I may join if I live
long enough). With an eye toward that eventuality I tend to pick
transport for ease of entry/exit. And I may succumb to the
attractions of a cross over next go if standing up on alighting
from my Beemer gets any tougher.
We've had a couple of Ford Escapes--liked the design of the 09 version (built on a truck body) better than the 16 one. The latter was lower
down, more "streamlined" so the back end couldn't be packed as
efficiently with groceries or whatever. But, the 16 had the towing capacity that the 09 didn't so.............if we'd not gotten the
camper, we might still be driving the 09.
Today, the top selling vehicle isn't a sedan, SUV, or compact
crossover. It's a pickup truck. The Ford F150 has been the #1
selling nameplate in North America for several years running now,
Why, I don't know as very few suburban housewives are hauling heavy
cargo around.
Now available in diesel; we're consideering...............
Keep in mind that the F-150 is going to be taller and thus be harder
to get in and out of. You may want to look into running boards or
steps.
The F-150 has had the diesel in the F-150 for quite some time. The
newest addition seeming to be the 3.0 litre turbo diesel which claims 30mpg.
Stellar indeed for a pickup truck.
No, but they could, if they decided they needed to.... (G) Actually I
see mostly guys, often older boomer-types, driving them.... not sure
they are hauling heavy cargo around either, in most cases, though... :)
The heaviest thing most of them haul around is their "dunlap" beer
belly.
Don't have any of those around here.
Not at your house. But, I'll bet there are a lot of them in your town.
On 11-17-18 14:45, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Dave Drum about vehicle trends <=-
It would be a consideration. A friend of mine has a full size van and really needs the running boards or steps. Nice thing about hers is
that the driver's seat is very adjustable--she's short but couldn't
tell once she's behind the wheel. (G)
Dale Shipp wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-
It would be a consideration. A friend of mine has a full size van and really needs the running boards or steps. Nice thing about hers is
that the driver's seat is very adjustable--she's short but couldn't
tell once she's behind the wheel. (G)
I had a very short aunt. No matter how she adjusted the seat in her Cadillac, she still drove peeking out through the steering wheel.
I'll post this one for you in spite of the rediculus high carb count.
I suspect that it was supposed to be 23.2 and not 232.
MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
Title: Rice and Lentils
Categories: Vegan, Vegetable, Diabetic, Holiday, Vegetarian
Yield: 4 servings
One Serving = Calories: 232 Carbohydrates: 34 Protein: 10 Fat: 8
Sodium: 262 Potassium: 325 Cholesterol: 0
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
On my work truck - same make as yours, just newer - if I open the
door to its widest I have to lean waaaaay out to pull it shut.
I've found
That's what I do too, if I let it. I generally try to grab and pull
it somewhat shut behind me.
that the bottom part of the door - where the in-door beverage holder
is makes a convenient grab place without leaning out quite so far.
I'll stick with grabbing the door as I get in. Had my hands full the
other day and couldn't--go figure, one of the wet days we had this past week--so got a bit wet. (G)
Also the sloping part of the door. But be sure to get your hand out
of the way when it swings closed .... and never mind how I learned
that.
I won't ask but can imagine. So far I've avoided that, partly because
my parents brought us up to watch out for fingers on frames.
That same obtains for old people (whose ranks I may join if I live
long enough). With an eye toward that eventuality I tend to pick
transport for ease of entry/exit. And I may succumb to the
attractions of a cross over next go if standing up on alighting
from my Beemer gets any tougher.
The F-150 has had the diesel in the F-150 for quite some time. The
newest addition seeming to be the 3.0 litre turbo diesel which claims 30mpg.
Stellar indeed for a pickup truck.
I think that's the one Steve is looking at. Might not be for a few
years yet but.................
No, but they could, if they decided they needed to.... (G) Actually I
see mostly guys, often older boomer-types, driving them.... not sure
they are hauling heavy cargo around either, in most cases, though... :)
The heaviest thing most of them haul around is their "dunlap" beer
belly.
Don't have any of those around here.
Not at your house. But, I'll bet there are a lot of them in your town.
Considering the college and seminary, not that many. Down the road in Raleigh, Durham or Chapel Hill, yes, definately.
Also the sloping part of the door. But be sure to get your hand out
of the way when it swings closed .... and never mind how I learned
that.
Now available in diesel; we're consideering...............
Keep in mind that the F-150 is going to be taller and thus be harder
to get in and out of. You may want to look into running boards or
steps.
The F-150 has had the diesel in the F-150 for quite some time. The
newest addition seeming to be the 3.0 litre turbo diesel which claims 30mpg.
Stellar indeed for a pickup truck.
Stephen Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Also the sloping part of the door. But be sure to get your hand out
of the way when it swings closed .... and never mind how I learned
that.
Sounds like you had a learning experience (ouch!).
Now available in diesel; we're consideering...............
Keep in mind that the F-150 is going to be taller and thus be harder
to get in and out of. You may want to look into running boards or
steps.
We have nerf bars on our Frontier already. I would definitely look
at having running boards on an F-150 if we were to get one.
The F-150 has had the diesel in the F-150 for quite some time. The
newest addition seeming to be the 3.0 litre turbo diesel which claims 30mpg.
Stellar indeed for a pickup truck.
The diesel F-150 is new for the 2018 model year. The F-250, 350, and
450 have been the ones with the diesels. The F150 had a naturally aspirated engine and two Ecoboost options only until this year. I was
hoping Nissan would finally announce production of a diesel Frontier.
It has been rumored for some time and a concept was shown. Now it is either going to be 2019 or 2020 before it gets produced.
It would be a consideration. A friend of mine has a full size van and really needs the running boards or steps. Nice thing about hers is
that the driver's seat is very adjustable--she's short but couldn't
tell once she's behind the wheel. (G)
I had a very short aunt. No matter how she adjusted the seat in her Cadillac, she still drove peeking out through the steering wheel.
I'll post this one for you in spite of the rediculus high carb count.
I suspect that it was supposed to be 23.2 and not 232.
MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
Title: Rice and Lentils
Categories: Vegan, Vegetable, Diabetic, Holiday, Vegetarian
Yield: 4 servings
On my work truck - same make as yours, just newer - if I open the
door to its widest I have to lean waaaaay out to pull it shut.
I've found
That's what I do too, if I let it. I generally try to grab and pull
it somewhat shut behind me.
that the bottom part of the door - where the in-door beverage holder
is makes a convenient grab place without leaning out quite so far.
I'll stick with grabbing the door as I get in. Had my hands full the
other day and couldn't--go figure, one of the wet days we had this past week--so got a bit wet. (G)
If I am just getting in the vehicle my usual practice is to open the
door just to the first detent (about half-way) then everything is in
easy
reach. If I have stuff to set on the other side of the armrest - then
the door is opened to its widest.
Also the sloping part of the door. But be sure to get your hand out
of the way when it swings closed .... and never mind how I learned
that.
I won't ask but can imagine. So far I've avoided that, partly because
my parents brought us up to watch out for fingers on frames.
Mine too, as well as bitter experience and painful reminders.
Fortunately this last time I just caught the tips between the rubber weather-strip
and the windshield post. I was able to reach across my capacious belly
and open the door with my right hand. Phew. No major pain but a major reminder.
That same obtains for old people (whose ranks I may join if I live
long enough). With an eye toward that eventuality I tend to pick
transport for ease of entry/exit. And I may succumb to the
attractions of a cross over next go if standing up on alighting
from my Beemer gets any tougher.
<----- CUT ----->
The F-150 has had the diesel in the F-150 for quite some time. The
newest addition seeming to be the 3.0 litre turbo diesel which claims 30mpg.
Stellar indeed for a pickup truck.
I think that's the one Steve is looking at. Might not be for a few
years yet but.................
No, but they could, if they decided they needed to.... (G) Actually I
see mostly guys, often older boomer-types, driving them.... not sure
they are hauling heavy cargo around either, in most cases, though... :)
The heaviest thing most of them haul around is their "dunlap" beer
belly.
Don't have any of those around here.
Not at your house. But, I'll bet there are a lot of them in your town.
Considering the college and seminary, not that many. Down the road in Raleigh, Durham or Chapel Hill, yes, definately.
More than you might think. And not all beer bellies are caused by
beer. Mine certainly isn't. Bv)= I average three beers per five
years.
Quoting Dave Drum to Nancy Backus on 11-17-18 12:52 <=-
We were transporting people in wheelchairs or with push-walkers that
could at least do a stand-pivot transfer... and the salient features
were the slim outside-of-car-to-seat so that one could just sit down
and swing the legs around, and the seat being able to be raised enough
to make that a smooth sit and rise again...
The cross-overs seem better than the vans for rear seating. Many of
the placarded/licenced Caravan or Odyssey or Windstar vans I see have a Braun Mobility sticker where the model name usually goes on the back.
Many of the rest (both SUV/crossover and van) have a fold-down platform
on the back for the electric scooter.
Some of the organisations like Senior Center, Sally Anne, etc. use
full-size vans. All are easier to get into/out of than a low-sitting
station wagon.
The full-size probably have a wheelchair ramp of some sort attached,
too... Our Volvo station wagon isn't particularly low-sitting,
either... My sedan is more so, but it too is relatively easy for
someone disabled to get in and out of.... including me.... its seats
also can go up to make things easier, if necessary....
That same obtains for old people (whose ranks I may join if I live
long enough). With an eye toward that eventuality I tend to pick
transport for ease of entry/exit. And I may succumb to the attractions
of a cross over next go if standing up on alighting from my Beemer gets any tougher.
On 11-19-18 12:44, Dave Drum <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about vehicle trends <=-
I had a very short aunt. No matter how she adjusted the seat in her Cadillac, she still drove peeking out through the steering wheel.
My friend Jasper Gullo was about 61" tall with lifts in his shoes. He typically sat on a Chicago phone book to drive. And had custom made
pedal extensions for the brake and foot-feed so he didn't have to have
the seat at its furthest forward position.
I'll post this one for you in spite of the rediculus high carb count.
I suspect that it was supposed to be 23.2 and not 232.
One Serving = Calories: 232 Carbohydrates: 34 Protein: 10 Fat: 8
Sodium: 262 Potassium: 325 Cholesterol: 0
Calories 232 looks about right. As do the carbs at 34. Rice and
lentils are both fairly high in carbs.
On 11-19-18 19:53, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about vehicle trends <=-
I'll post this one for you in spite of the rediculus high carb count.
I suspect that it was supposed to be 23.2 and not 232.
MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
Title: Rice and Lentils
Categories: Vegan, Vegetable, Diabetic, Holiday, Vegetarian
Yield: 4 servings
That 23.2 looks more like the calorie count, the next number being the carbs. it's a good meatless, but high protein recipe tho.
NANCY BACKUS wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
Many of the rest (both SUV/crossover and van) have a fold-down platform
on the back for the electric scooter.
Later, my parents bought a handicap-equipped Dodge Grand Caravan...
that had the fold-down ramp out the back for wheeling a wheelchair in
(or for such things as an electric scooter)....
I can still easily get in and out of my Volvo... I sit back on the seat and swing my legs in... and getting out, I reverse that, and use the
door to hang on to to pull up... but it doesn't need much effort... And some mobility challenged friends we still transport have learned to do
the same, and also find it easy enough... :)
Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-
I had a very short aunt. No matter how she adjusted the seat in her Cadillac, she still drove peeking out through the steering wheel.
My friend Jasper Gullo was about 61" tall with lifts in his shoes. He typically sat on a Chicago phone book to drive. And had custom made
pedal extensions for the brake and foot-feed so he didn't have to have
the seat at its furthest forward position.
OTOH, my aunt was well under 60". I think she was about 4'6", but
not sure.
I'll post this one for you in spite of the rediculus high carb count.
I suspect that it was supposed to be 23.2 and not 232.
One Serving = Calories: 232 Carbohydrates: 34 Protein: 10 Fat: 8
Sodium: 262 Potassium: 325 Cholesterol: 0
Calories 232 looks about right. As do the carbs at 34. Rice and
lentils are both fairly high in carbs.
Whoops -- I completely read that wrong. Many recipes that post info
put the number before the description. They should have at least
had a comma after the numbers. You are right.
I'll post this one for you in spite of the rediculus high carb count.
I suspect that it was supposed to be 23.2 and not 232.
MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
Title: Rice and Lentils
Categories: Vegan, Vegetable, Diabetic, Holiday, Vegetarian
Yield: 4 servings
That 23.2 looks more like the calorie count, the next number being the carbs. it's a good meatless, but high protein recipe tho.
As Dave Drum pointed out to me, it was 232 calories. The carb count
came *after* the word carb, not before. I miss read the punctuation.
Here is a replacement recipe -- free of charge, shipping included.
Title: Quebec Pea Soup With Red Lentils
Categories: Soup, Beans
Yield: 12 Servings
@MSGID: <5BF5031E.115792.cooking@capitolcityonline.net>
Quoting Dave Drum to Nancy Backus on 11-17-18 12:52 <=-
We were transporting people in wheelchairs or with push-walkers that
could at least do a stand-pivot transfer... and the salient features
were the slim outside-of-car-to-seat so that one could just sit down
and swing the legs around, and the seat being able to be raised enough
to make that a smooth sit and rise again...
The cross-overs seem better than the vans for rear seating. Many of
the placarded/licenced Caravan or Odyssey or Windstar vans I see have a Braun Mobility sticker where the model name usually goes on the back.
I can still easily get in and out of my Volvo... I sit back on the seat and swing my legs in... and getting out, I reverse that, and use the
door to hang on to to pull up... but it doesn't need much effort... And some mobility challenged friends we still transport have learned to do
the same, and also find it easy enough... :)
Be that as it may, station wagons are a small and dwindling niche
market, about 1% of all passenger vehicle sales in North America.
Today, the top selling vehicle isn't a sedan, SUV, or compact
crossover. It's a pickup truck. The Ford F150 has been the #1
selling nameplate in North America for several years running now,
Why, I don't know as very few suburban housewoves are hauling heavy
cargo around.
Sean Dennis wrote to JIM WELLER <=-
Be that as it may, station wagons are a small and dwindling niche
market, about 1% of all passenger vehicle sales in North America.
Today, the top selling vehicle isn't a sedan, SUV, or compact
crossover. It's a pickup truck. The Ford F150 has been the #1
selling nameplate in North America for several years running now,
Why, I don't know as very few suburban housewoves are hauling heavy
cargo around.
Average price of a pickup in the US is now $46,000. Ford makes a "platinum" edition of its pickup that can go as high as $125,000.
That's outrageous to me...and when gas prices go soaring again,
some of these people are going to find themselves in a pickle.
There's a reason why I don't buy any of the Big Three vehicles
anymore (I prefer Nissan; I own two of them).
Quoting Ed Vance to Nancy Backus on 11-24-18 19:05 <=-
I can still easily get in and out of my Volvo... I sit back on the seat
and swing my legs in... and getting out, I reverse that, and use the
door to hang on to to pull up... but it doesn't need much effort... And
some mobility challenged friends we still transport have learned to do
the same, and also find it easy enough... :)
The 3 Door Grand Caravan I bought used had a plastic Step Stool placed
in the space between the Second Seat and the Sliding Door.
The previous owner said He put it there to help an older person get
in the van by their sitting on the step stool (facing away from the
van) and turning to their left to get their feet on the floor and then sliding over on to the seat.
We kept it, and several people have used it when they get in Our van.
Thought I'd pass the idea along to the other folks in this echo.
Quoting Sean Dennis to Jim Weller <=-
I don't buy any of the Big Three vehicles anymore
I prefer Nissan
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| Nodes: | 8 (0 / 8) |
| Uptime: | 25:26:34 |
| Calls: | 2,011 |
| Calls today: | 1 |
| Files: | 11,119 |
| Messages: | 944,116 |