• 472 natural flavours

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to JIM WELLER on Sunday, October 28, 2018 21:09:04
    The line between natural flavor and artificial
    flavor can be kind of blurry as well.
    A "natural flavor" merely means that it originated from a natural
    organic (in the chemical sense of the word) source. It can go
    through a number of processes to become isolated and purified from
    the other ingredients in the source material. So that covers

    That theoretically would allow fake maple syrup to claim
    all natural ingredients while employing a witch's brew of
    extractives of (say) fenugreek and basil seeds, vanilla
    bean, and birch bark.

    essential oils, oleoresins, essences, extracts and distillates etc.
    derived from a spice, herb, fruit, vegetable, bark, flower, root, leaf
    or other plant material as well as meat, seafood, eggs, dairy
    foods and fermentation products. Vinegar made from bacterial
    action on vodka diluted with water, after the vodka was distilled
    from fermented potato mash qualifies despite the number of
    intermediate chemical reactions and physical processes applied.

    Ah, thank you, chemist. That points out the unnaturalness
    of nature as she is spoke.

    But vinegar made from diluting glacial ascetic acid manufactured
    from methanol and carbon monoxide in the presence of a catalyst (the
    usual for reagent grade lab acid) would not.

    Though the methanol and carbon monoxide might have had
    natural origins.

    A better example might be vanilla extract is natural but vanillin
    made from petrochemical precursors is not (even though petroleum
    comes from the natural decomposition of organic dinosaurs with heat
    and pressure subsequently applied).

    A more apt example for here and similarly to the
    point. I actually like the taste of ethyl vanillin,
    as apparently others do - I believe it was the Adams
    company that produced a mixture for commercial baking
    that included both vanillin and vanilla. And back
    before these things became fashionable, A&W's trade
    publicity materials listed I believe it was 15 natural
    extractives plus vanillin. I inquired of the head office
    and was told that consumers actually preferred the formula
    with the artificial flavor.

    An artificial flavour is manufactured completely or partially from
    chemicals that weren't derived from a natural source.

    Which requires the questions of what derivation and
    source mean.

    Having said that a so-called natural flavour can sound very
    artificial to a layman (just like you said at the outset.)

    Another pink rum drink ....
    Title: Bahama Breeze

    Tryna poison me, eh.

    From the bartender at a hotel on Elbow Cay in the Bahamas years ago.

    In a strange vision-generated metonymy I read
    "crooked cay."

    ... Scientists prove moderate drinking is better than being unhappy.

    So too would be immoderate drinking, if one can
    have the one without the other.

    STRUKLJI
    categories: Slovenian, pasta
    yield: 1 text only

    [sound] "Struklji, see character set, pronounce as: shtrooclee

    Struklji are a "multi-purpose" dish: they can be served as a side-dish
    with game or any dark meat with a heavy sauce, as an independent
    course (usually with a salad) or as a dessert (with a sweetened cream
    sauce or just dusted with sugar).

    General principles

    The dough is made either of "soft" (= very fine-grain) white flour or
    (this is more popular in Slovenia) with buckwheat flour.

    Buckwheat dough:

    * 1 litre buckwheat flour
    * 0.1 kg wheat ("white") flour
    * 1 litre boiling water, slightly salted

    Scald the buckwheat flour with boiling water, mixing with a wooden spoon;
    allow to cool just enough that you can knead the dough with your hands.
    Knead in the wheat flour and roll out the dough about 2-3 mm thick
    immediately; cut off any thicker or crooked edges and spread the filling
    (see further). Roll the dough and prepare for cooking (see further).

    Wheat dough:

    * 0.5 kg "soft" wheat flour
    * 2 eggs
    * 2 Tbp lemon juice
    * 2 Tbp vegetable oil
    * warm water as needed
    * a pinch of salt

    Mix the flour, eggs, oil, lemon juice, salt (with your hands!), adding
    enough warm water to form a thick, but pliable dough. Knead well until
    the dough is smooth. Form one or several "buns", oil the surfaces and
    allow the dough to rest for at least one hr on a surface dusted with flour.

    Roll out the dough just to make it flat, then continue stretching it
    using the backs of your hands; the dough should be stretched to
    approximately 1 mm thick or less. Cut of the thick edges, spread with
    filling and prepare for cooking.

    Some fillings:

    Walnut: mix 1/2 litre freshly ground walnuts, 2 eggs, 0.25 l heavy or
    whipping cream, 3 Tbp dry bread-crumbs, ground cinnamon, ground
    cloves, lemon zest (grate lemon peel) (if intended for dessert only,
    add 0.1 kg sugar)

    Walnut and honey: mix 1/2 litre freshly ground walnuts, 2 eggs, 6 Tbp
    honey, 0.08 kg softened butter, 3 Tbp dry bread-crumbs, ground cinnamon,
    ground cloves, lemon zest.

    Cottage cheese: mix 1 kg fresh, smooth, unsalted cottage cheese (pot
    cheese) with 2 eggs, 4 Tbpwhipping cream, 3 Tbp dry bread-crumbs, 5
    dag melted unsalted butter; for dessert only, add one cup rasins or
    sultanas, soaked in dark rum and 0.2 kg sugar;

    Tarragon: mix 6 Tbp freshly chopped tarragon, 10 dag softened
    unsalted butter, 1 egg, 10 dag sugar; or
    8 Tbp freshly chopped tarragon, 0.25 kgfresh unsalted cottage
    cheese, 2 egg-yolks, 0.25 litre whipping cream, 3 Tbpdry
    bread-crumbs; if for dessert only, add 0.15 kgsugar.

    After spreading the filling on the dough, roll the dough tightly,
    making sure that there are no air pockets in the roll. Uncooked
    buckwheat roll should be about 5 cm thick, wheat up to 10 cm. Moisten
    a thin linen cloth, wringing out excess water; spread the cloth on a
    flat surface and dust lightly with dry bread-crumbs. Wrap the struklji
    tightly with the cloth and tie both ends -- the cloth should cover the
    struklji roll at least twice.

    Bring 1 litre salted water to boil; drop the roll into boiling water
    and cook for 1/2 hour. Remove immediately, unwrap and cut into serving
    pieces. Brown some bread-crumbs on butter and pour over struklji;
    serve hot. If served as a dessert with cream sauce, serve the sauce
    separately. Guests should add sugar to taste. (Cream sauce: mix equal
    volumes of lightly whipped cream and sour cream, sugar lightly)

    If you want to cook several rolls at a time, but wish to re-warm them,
    do not unwrap; freeze the struklji in their linen wrap, then re-warm
    by cooking in slightly salted water for 5-10 minutes.

    http://www.ijs.si/slo/country/food/recipes/struklji.html
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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Wednesday, October 31, 2018 22:28:00

    Quoting Michael Loo to Jim Weller <=-

    I actually like the taste of ethyl vanillin,
    as apparently others do

    My next bottle of vanilla will be artificial vanilla rather than
    vanilla extract as the real thing is becoming just too damned
    expensive. I'm stretching out my supply by substituting 2 tb of
    spiced rum for 1 teaspoon of vanilla and reducing my other
    liquids a like amount when I'm baking.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Magic Chocolate Pudding
    Categories: Pudding, Chocolate, Alcohol, British
    Yield: 4 Servings

    50 g Butter or margarine
    75 g Caster sugar
    2 Eggs; separated
    40 g Self-raising flour
    2 tb Cocoa powder
    340 ml Milk
    1 tb Rum

    Cream the fat and sugar together until light and fluffy, then beat
    in the egg yolks.

    Sift the flour and cocoa powder together over the creamed mixture.
    Beat in until evenly mixed.

    Stir in the milk and rum. Whisk the egg whites until stiff and
    fold into the mixture.

    Pour into a greased 1 litre (1 3/4 pint) ovenproof dish. Bake in
    the oven at 180 C/350 F/gas mark 4 for 15 minutes until the top is
    set and spongy to the touch. This pudding will separate into a
    custard layer with a sponge layer. Serve hot.

    MMMMM

    Cheers

    Jim


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