• 171 highways and loww

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Saturday, August 18, 2018 10:49:50
    Yeah. We need to find more creative ways of
    saying yeah and nah on the echo.
    Indeed. How right you are... ;)

    Yeah.

    Life being what it is... :)
    Yeah. Or: "it is what it is," a phrase that I detest.
    Sometimes, though, perfectly appropriate... not my favorite either...

    Granted, truthful, but I figure it never or
    hardly ever adds anything to a conversation.
    First, it's tautological; further, it
    expresses a fatalism that I find odious.

    Yeah. Try tinyurl.com/peachy000
    OK, wrote it down....

    The beauty of TinyURL is that it makes unwieldy
    things, well, tiny. The cutting of the length
    of the original by a factor of 5 decreases the
    likelihood of typo by a similar figure.

    Part of the compromise was staying on the
    low-dose aspirin for an indefinite period.
    Interestingly, I seem to be habituating to
    the stuff; the problem (which the medical
    community doesn't seem to see) is that that
    kind of adaptation could also mean a decline
    in effectiveness of the therapy.
    As long as they don't decide to up the dose accordingly, especially for you.... I'd guess that even if you are habituating somewhat, it will

    As I've pointed out to Ruth, the decision is not
    theirs to make. Of course, "they" have sweetened the
    deal by giving me free samples of an anticoagulant
    that is reputed not to have the potential catastrophic
    side effects of the previous supposed state of the art.

    remain still quite sufficiently therapeutic, perhaps with a little less
    risk to you... and I'd also guess that I'd not habituate, so am still
    much better not taking it, ever... :)

    I hope you don't ever find yourself in a position
    to have to make the decision.

    Michael can educate them that their recipes aren't NDN enough! [g]
    If the modern day NA's are coming up with recipes, wouldn't they be considered properly Native...? ;)
    No more than the recipes Ian and I have come up
    with or perfected would be English or Chinese.
    I suppose. :)

    Marcus Samuelsson doesn't characterize his
    recipes as Ethiopian (I do, though, just for fun).

    Coming back to what constitutes a protein food or a protein
    at all. What if something is plenty of most of the amino
    acids but is totally deficient in one or a few? It is my
    impression that the protein assay is limited by the limiting
    protein, in the current way of thinking.
    Again, probably depends on who one asks.... and what their view on proteins is... And how up on and willing to add complementary foods to the deficient food in question....
    My line of inquiry leads me to the notion that
    the whole concept is dubious.
    There's probably some validity in there somewhere... We do know that
    protein is a necessary part of nutrition, it's the details that argued about....

    It is the concept of the limiting nutrient
    that is in some question, as well as the
    issue of how close in time the ingestions of
    the essential amino acids must be - they used
    to say in the same meal, then within the same
    day, now some say within a few days. And then
    there's the question of how much protein,
    complete or otherwise, you need at all.

    What is its amino acid profile...?
    See my post that you quoted. Those are the five that
    presumably disqualify it as a protein food.
    Oh, I guess I thought you were referring to potatoes in that listing for some reason... :) As I usually am serving eggplant with at least some
    Nah, I don't tend to talk much about potatoes.
    OK.

    Though I made a decent potato dish yesterday -
    leftover sprouted potatoes, beef fat, a half
    cup of expired half-and-half whose cap had been
    lost last month, a half cup of elderly but not
    expired milk, a years-old bouillion cube, and
    a bit of lemon juice. Tasted like twice-baked,
    not altogether a bad thing, but survival food.

    meat and/or dairy, apparently its protein is useful.. ;)
    Of course, if one gets meat or dairy in one's diet,
    there's no point worrying about complete proteins.
    And my guess is that if one is already getting the complete proteins,
    the incomplete ones supplement and add their goodness to the mix...

    Possibly, but the more I think about it, the less the
    concept of complete protein makes any sense at all.

    Left over chicken soup
    categories: celebrity, New Yorker, Ethiopian, Swedish, Asian fusion,
    main, profligate
    servings: 2

    4 oz rice stick, softened
    3 oz pulled chicken
    16 oz broth (recipe below)
    2 oz shiitake mushrooms, julienne
    1 oz scallion greens, sliced
    2 oz hapa cabbage
    2 oz egg "ribbon" (recipe below)
    1 oz bean sprouts
    1 baby bok choy
    2 pc crispy chicken skin
    h - Broth recipe
    2 whole chicken carcasses (chopped)
    4 white onions (charred)
    8 oz ginger (peeled and charred)
    3 oz fish sauce
    2 star anise
    1 stalk lemongrass
    96 oz water
    h - Egg ribbon recipe
    3 eggs
    1 Tb soy
    1 ts mirin
    2 ts chopped chives

    In a large bowl pour the broth and then place then
    add the chicken and noodles and garnish with the egg,
    scallion, sprouts, and cabbage. Finish with cracklings
    on top.

    Broth - In a large stockpot place the bones in with
    enough water to cover and bring to a boil to remove
    any impurities. Once the bones have been washed,
    remove from boiling water. In a separate stockpot
    add the chicken bones, ginger, star anise and water.
    Meanwhile, on a grill or in a cast iron pan, char
    the white onions and ginger then add them to the
    stockpot. Allow the broth to simmer for 2 hr. Once
    the broth is fortified, strain and reserve.

    Egg ribbons - In nonstick pan with oil, make an open
    face omelet. roll and slice thinly.

    Marcus Samuelsson
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Saturday, August 18, 2018 23:56:06
    On 08-18-18 10:49, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Nancy Backus about 171 highways and loww <=-

    No more than the recipes Ian and I have come up
    with or perfected would be English or Chinese.
    I suppose. :)

    Marcus Samuelsson doesn't characterize his
    recipes as Ethiopian (I do, though, just for fun).

    And why not Swedish as well :-}} We recently watched a series by him
    called No Passport Required. I think that the five episodes we watched
    are all there are (at least now). These shows had a good bit of
    discussion with the people he was focusing on as to heritage, culture
    and food. One of them was the Ethiopian area of Adams Morgan (in DC?,
    in MD?). Made us want to find a decent/good Ethiopian restaurant to
    visit. There seem to be an number of them in Silver Spring area, down
    Rt 29 just inside the Beltway.

    He also did a show in New Orleans which turned out to be a complete
    surprise to us -- it was about the Vietnamese area there, which I did
    not even know existed.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Debrecen Pork Cutlets
    Categories: Main dish, Pork, Hungary, Casserole
    Yield: 4 Servings

    MMMMM-------------------AMERICAN MEASUREMENTS------------------------
    12 Pork chops (abt 3 oz)
    9 oz Onions; finely minced
    6 oz Bacon; cubed small
    9 oz Debrecen sausage; sliced
    1 oz Paprika
    Salt
    Tomatoes
    Green paprikas

    MMMMM-------------------EUROPEAN MEASUREMENTS------------------------
    12 Pork chops (abt 85 g)
    250 g Onions; finely minced
    170 g Bacon; cubed small
    250 g Debrecen sausage; sliced
    25 g Paprika
    Salt
    Tomatoes
    Green paprikas

    Brown the pork chops, fry the finely minced onions. Put the chops
    into the saucepan with them, and -season,with paprika and salt. Add
    some green' paprikas and tomatoes (preserved tomatoes may be used).
    Pour in a very little water and stew with the lid on. Before the meat
    is quite tender fry the bacon, cut into quite small cubes, add
    the Debrecen sausage in slices, and fry with the bacon for a few
    minutes. Mix all this with the pork chops and stew till quite tender.
    Serve with tarhonya, potatoes or galushka.

    Recipe Karoly Gundel "Hungarian Cookery Book"
    MMed IMH c/o Le MarYol BBS Fido 2:324/151.4

    From: Ian Hoare Date: 05-02-96
    International Cooking

    MMMMM


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 20:36:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 08-18-18 10:49 <=-

    Life being what it is... :)
    Yeah. Or: "it is what it is," a phrase that I detest.
    Sometimes, though, perfectly appropriate... not my favorite either...
    Granted, truthful, but I figure it never or
    hardly ever adds anything to a conversation.
    First, it's tautological; further, it
    expresses a fatalism that I find odious.

    Sometimes it merely expresses being relatively content in the situation,
    having come to terms... not totally fatalistically...

    Yeah. Try tinyurl.com/peachy000
    OK, wrote it down....
    The beauty of TinyURL is that it makes unwieldy
    things, well, tiny. The cutting of the length
    of the original by a factor of 5 decreases the
    likelihood of typo by a similar figure.

    How long do those stay in effect...?

    Part of the compromise was staying on the
    low-dose aspirin for an indefinite period.
    Interestingly, I seem to be habituating to
    the stuff; the problem (which the medical
    community doesn't seem to see) is that that
    kind of adaptation could also mean a decline
    in effectiveness of the therapy.
    As long as they don't decide to up the dose accordingly, especially for you.... I'd guess that even if you are habituating somewhat, it will
    remain still quite sufficiently therapeutic, perhaps with a little less
    risk to you...
    As I've pointed out to Ruth, the decision is not
    theirs to make. Of course, "they" have sweetened the
    deal by giving me free samples of an anticoagulant
    that is reputed not to have the potential catastrophic
    side effects of the previous supposed state of the art.

    Not sure how sweetened that seems to me... Did you try them out...? And
    if so, were they less making you bleed so much....?

    and I'd also guess that I'd not habituate, so am still
    much better not taking it, ever... :)
    I hope you don't ever find yourself in a position
    to have to make the decision.

    I've already turned a doctor down on taking aspirin to prevent clots
    when I broke my ankle... and was shown to be perfectly correct in
    thinking I wouldn't need it.... Dunno, another situation might not be
    quite so clear cut to me, but I suspect I'd still stay with that...

    Michael can educate them that their recipes aren't NDN enough! [g]
    If the modern day NA's are coming up with recipes, wouldn't they be considered properly Native...? ;)
    No more than the recipes Ian and I have come up
    with or perfected would be English or Chinese.
    I suppose. :)
    Marcus Samuelsson doesn't characterize his
    recipes as Ethiopian (I do, though, just for fun).

    Is he, then, Ethiopian....?

    Coming back to what constitutes a protein food or a protein
    at all. What if something is plenty of most of the amino
    acids but is totally deficient in one or a few? It is my
    impression that the protein assay is limited by the limiting protein, in the current way of thinking.
    Again, probably depends on who one asks.... and what their view on proteins is... And how up on and willing to add complementary foods to the deficient food in question....
    My line of inquiry leads me to the notion that
    the whole concept is dubious.
    There's probably some validity in there somewhere... We do know that
    protein is a necessary part of nutrition, it's the details that argued about....
    It is the concept of the limiting nutrient that
    is in some question, as well as the issue of how
    close in time the ingestions of the essential
    amino acids must be - they used to say in the
    same meal, then within the same day, now some say
    within a few days.

    I could maybe see within the same day... but I don't think foods stick
    around much more than that to combine and be useful... or to fill in the gaps... I had heard, in terms of total nutrition for children, that if
    they are getting a balanced diet over the course of a week or so it all balances out, but I always considered that a bit more macro a process
    anyway...

    And then there's the question of how much protein,
    complete or otherwise, you need at all.

    And that, too, seems to depend on who one is talking to... and which
    hobby horse they're riding... ;)

    Though I made a decent potato dish yesterday -
    leftover sprouted potatoes, beef fat, a half
    cup of expired half-and-half whose cap had been
    lost last month, a half cup of elderly but not
    expired milk, a years-old bouillion cube, and
    a bit of lemon juice. Tasted like twice-baked,
    not altogether a bad thing, but survival food.

    Surprising sometimes what can be salvaged and still edible... :)

    meat and/or dairy, apparently its protein is useful.. ;)
    Of course, if one gets meat or dairy in one's diet,
    there's no point worrying about complete proteins.
    And my guess is that if one is already getting the complete proteins,
    the incomplete ones supplement and add their goodness to the mix...
    Possibly, but the more I think about it, the less the
    concept of complete protein makes any sense at all.

    And probably not worth time worrying over it, either.... especially for
    a meatatarian, or someone that eats plenty of dairy/eggs/soy... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... A wok is what you throw at a wabbit.

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