• 166 was nasty and und

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Thursday, August 16, 2018 13:06:46
    An Orangeman's Home would be difficult to imagine
    In Boston, and if one existed, it would likely be
    a cemetery.
    Ah... not in my experience...

    A Scotch-Irish who came to New England during the
    migration would have been foolish at best.

    The rivalry between Syracuse and Boston College is
    likely an artificial product of this kind of silliness.
    I don't think they actually try to kill each other at
    this late date, just pretend to. It's a strange world.
    College rivalries often are a silliness... and it is a strange world...

    Most rivalries are a silliness.

    I still am a member... :) However, I don't consider myself of Scots-Irish or Scotch-Irish (and this term apparently is proper, as I
    own a 2-vol book called _Irish_and_Scotch-Irish_Ancestral_Research_ published by the Genealological Publishing Company) descent/heritage...
    That's the impression I've been given.
    Scots-Irish is also proper in genealogical circles...

    My original observation was that I have encountered
    only one self-described Scotch-Irish. I've never heard
    one calling him/herself Scots-Irish. But see below.

    I have plenty of Scots ancestry, and a little Irish... but the only
    Scots I have that passed through Ireland were there less than a
    generation and as far as I've found never considered themselves
    to be at all Irish, just Scottish... :)
    That's the impression I've been given as well.
    There were Scots that moved to Ireland earlier, and whose families
    actually were there for multiple generations... I think those the more
    likely to refer to themselves as Scotch-Irish or Scots-Irish... as
    they'd still think of themselves as Scottish, but perhaps have put down
    some roots in an Irish heritage as well... They didn't immigrate to New Engalnd so much as to PA and VA and the Carolinas.... and tended to go
    west into the less settled land fairly early...

    That quoted Scotch-Irish scholar points out that
    the term Scots didn't gain ascendancy among the
    Scotch, er, Scots until after the main emigration,
    so that the Scotch-Irish (if they self-identified
    as such at all) would not have contemporaneously
    called themselves Scots-Irish, a mostly
    20th-century affectation to counter a 19th-century
    affectation.

    And that the term is not used in my circle.
    Makes sense when one thinks about it... :)

    Turns out one of my less favorite professors
    was Scotch-Canadian and referred to himself as
    Scotch. He even wrote a book about his ancestors
    and titled it by that monicker.

    In many countries. German: Kartoffel (from Latin terrae
    tuber) or Erdapfel, Dutch aardappel - all having something
    to do with some kind of subterranean fruit.
    The Dutch is closer... ;)
    They're conceptually close, and some are
    etymologically as well.
    And then, the tomato was known as a "love apple" and considered poisonous... ;)
    There's a substantial enough number that still
    considers it to be so (along with capsicums
    and other Capsicums, eggplant, and so on).
    Only thing I consider poisonous are the actual apples... ;)

    Something I'm still trying to wrap my
    head around the whys and wherefores of
    that cruel sensitivity.

    I don't care about field trips, having gone on plenty
    already. I can't speak for anyone else, but I suspect
    most of us don't have an urgent upstate New York bucket
    list. Mine, accomplished:
    1. Millard Fillmore birthplace
    2. Konstantin Frank winery
    And you've also been to Susan B's house... ;)

    Wasn't on my bucket list (insofar as I had
    a bucket list).

    Will do... so far there doesn't seem to be a need.... :)
    In addition to the efforts I have talked about
    earlier, I tried to get the Sacerdotes, but
    both Dave and Lynnie are very busy in that
    timeframe. Dave does say hello, though.
    Hello back... :) It would be nice to see them again...

    No friends of mine, I'm sure.
    Oh, I don't know... I rather like all sorts of bleu cheese, always
    have... ;) But I'd not force it on you.... ;)
    I had some unintentionally slightly blue
    taleggio yesterday. Still didn't care for
    that taste, even in minuscule proportion.
    At least you appear to have survived it... ;)

    My food dislikes have not much to do with their
    health effects, and a bit of a mold allergy such
    as most normal people have doesn't appear to have
    anything to do with it.

    ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.01

    Title: Greek Style Red Snapper
    Categories: Fish/sea, Greek, take with a grain of salt
    Yield: 4 servings

    2 lb Red Snapper fillets 4 tb Minced fresh parsley
    1 lg Red onion,thinly sliced 1 lg Tomato,cored and
    chopped
    2 ts Oregano leaves 1/2 c Crumbled Feta or Blue cheese
    4 tb Lemon juice

    Place fish in a lightly oiled baking dish.Lay onions over fish and
    sprinkle
    with oregano and lemon juice. Mix together parsley and tomatoes and
    spread
    over fish, then sprinkle with cheese. Cover tightly with foil and place
    in
    a preheated 350 degree oven for 25 to 30 minutes or until fish flakes
    easily with a fork. Source unknown - feta is as far as I know authentic;
    blue cheese not so.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Saturday, August 18, 2018 16:20:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 08-16-18 13:06 <=-

    An Orangeman's Home would be difficult to imagine
    In Boston, and if one existed, it would likely be
    a cemetery.
    Ah... not in my experience...
    A Scotch-Irish who came to New England during the
    migration would have been foolish at best.

    I suppose so. :)

    I still am a member... :) However, I don't consider myself of Scots-Irish or Scotch-Irish (and this term apparently is proper, as I
    own a 2-vol book called _Irish_and_Scotch-Irish_Ancestral_Research_ published by the Genealological Publishing Company) descent/heritage...
    That's the impression I've been given.
    Scots-Irish is also proper in genealogical circles...
    My original observation was that I have encountered
    only one self-described Scotch-Irish. I've never heard
    one calling him/herself Scots-Irish. But see below.

    Probably would depend on the circles one was in... lots of terms show up primarily in the genealogical circles, and not so much in the general
    public... ;)

    I have plenty of Scots ancestry, and a little Irish... but the only
    Scots I have that passed through Ireland were there less than a generation and as far as I've found never considered themselves
    to be at all Irish, just Scottish... :)
    That's the impression I've been given as well.
    There were Scots that moved to Ireland earlier, and whose families
    actually were there for multiple generations... I think those the more likely to refer to themselves as Scotch-Irish or Scots-Irish... as
    they'd still think of themselves as Scottish, but perhaps have put down
    some roots in an Irish heritage as well... They didn't immigrate to New England so much as to PA and VA and the Carolinas.... and tended to go
    west into the less settled land fairly early...
    That quoted Scotch-Irish scholar points out that
    the term Scots didn't gain ascendancy among the
    Scotch, er, Scots until after the main emigration,
    so that the Scotch-Irish (if they self-identified
    as such at all) would not have contemporaneously
    called themselves Scots-Irish, a mostly
    20th-century affectation to counter a 19th-century
    affectation.

    And when not hyphenated, it tended to be Scottish... rather than Scots
    or Scotch.... Other groups had similar affectations, of course... :) I
    think of the PA Dutch or Deutsch... who were of course, German....
    another branch of my heritage... ;)

    And that the term is not used in my circle.
    Makes sense when one thinks about it... :)
    Turns out one of my less favorite professors
    was Scotch-Canadian and referred to himself as
    Scotch. He even wrote a book about his ancestors
    and titled it by that monicker.

    Did he also imbibe...?

    In many countries. German: Kartoffel (from Latin terrae
    tuber) or Erdapfel, Dutch aardappel - all having something
    to do with some kind of subterranean fruit.
    The Dutch is closer... ;)
    They're conceptually close, and some are
    etymologically as well.
    And then, the tomato was known as a "love apple" and considered poisonous... ;)
    There's a substantial enough number that still
    considers it to be so (along with capsicums
    and other Capsicums, eggplant, and so on).
    Only thing I consider poisonous are the actual apples... ;)
    Something I'm still trying to wrap my
    head around the whys and wherefores of
    that cruel sensitivity.

    You and me both... ;(

    No friends of mine, I'm sure.
    Oh, I don't know... I rather like all sorts of bleu cheese, always have... ;) But I'd not force it on you.... ;)
    I had some unintentionally slightly blue
    taleggio yesterday. Still didn't care for
    that taste, even in minuscule proportion.
    At least you appear to have survived it... ;)
    My food dislikes have not much to do with their
    health effects, and a bit of a mold allergy such
    as most normal people have doesn't appear to have
    anything to do with it.

    OK... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Lemon and cinnamon make it Greek.

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