• 116 steaks + groceries

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to SHAWN HIGHFIELD on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 07:11:08
    treat. I may be the exception, because 90% of the time
    I want what I cook, not what someone else does.
    I enjoy cooking but sometimes I like when my wife boils the steak.
    (No I don't like it - yes she's served me steak that way)

    I hope she has other redeeming value. Did she cook
    it over insufficient heat, so the juice sort of
    stewed the meat, or was it in simmering salted
    water? The latter can be good, if the meat is a
    tender but not fatty cut, and the water is well
    seasoned and at just bubbling temperature.

    That's too bad. Have you experimented with elephant
    garlic, poaching garlic first, or other possible
    remedies?
    Yes, tried everything even garlic powder (which I always hated).

    Garlic powder has its uses, but as a substitute
    for the real thing it's pretty unsatisfactory.

    The father of my high-school dreamboat
    went into a kind of despair when he was diagnosed
    with an allergy to garlic and onions, and to my
    knowledge, he never found a remedy. Your condition
    is not that severe, I hope.
    It's not thankfully. I don't cook with it, but if it's on something I'm
    served it's not a big deal. I deal. Onions I can eat, garlic I can't,
    we don't know why. My daughter says I'm a vampire.

    And rare meat, and pointy teeth. Sure signs.

    It seems to work better than anything else, plus
    it's healthier than alcohol abuse.
    I've gone for alcohol abuse. Seems to work best for me for all things.
    LOL

    Depends on how long you want to live, I guess.

    my daughter's dog for dinner. The dog loved it. That was a year
    ago and
    she's still licking her chops.
    At least someone enjoyed it.
    She really did. As she was eating it she kept looking at us with an
    expression of "I don't care if you spank me, this is worth it!!!"

    Problem being that spoilage lasts a long time.

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    Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus <=-
    This dish might be good for some, but I think the shrimp would be
    lost.
    I've made something very close to this. You can in fact taste the
    shrimp.
    However I don't use the Worcestershire as it contains gluten and my wife
    is celiac. Also because to her green pepper is spicy, I didn't use
    Cayenne. (I have my own black pepper grinder sitting in front of my
    "spot" at the table)

    You should be able to substitute for the Worcestershire
    (I'd actually be surprised if there's no gluten-free
    version). You could use a pure-soy soy sauce like Tamari
    with a small glugg of fish sauce, for example.

    ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.01

    Title: Asparagus Crab Soup - Sup Mang Tay Cua
    Categories: Vietnamese, Soups/stews
    Yield: 6 servings

    2 1/2 qt Water -canned
    2 lb Pork bones 1/4 ts Freshly ground black
    pepper
    2 ts Salt 2 ts Cornstarch dissolved in
    2
    1 tb Fish sauce (nuoc mam) -tablespoons water
    1 ts Vegetable oil 1 Egg
    1 Clove garlic, chopped 15 oz White asparagus,
    undrained
    2 Shallots or white part of 2 1/4 c Chopped fresh coriander
    -scallions, chopped -(Chinese parsley)
    1/2 lb Crab meat, fresh, frozen, or 1/4 c Chopped scallion greens

    Bring water to a boil and put the pork bones in. Remove the scum, then
    cover and continue to boil the bones for 1 hour. Remove the bones from
    the
    stock and discard. Add the salt and the fish sauce to the stock.

    Heat the oil and add the chopped garlic and shallots; add the crab meat
    and
    fry for 5 minutes over high heat. Sprinkle with 1/8 teaspoon of black
    pepper, stirring constantly, then add the crab meat mixture to the soup
    and
    bring to a boil. Add the corn- starch-and-water mixture and stir for a
    few
    minutes.

    Break the egg open and drop it into the actively boiling soup while
    stirring. Cook, still stirring, for about 2 minutes, then drop in the
    asparagus, along with the liquid from the can and the rest of the black
    pepper. Continue to cook until the asparagus is heated through. Sprinkle
    the coriander and scallion green over the soup before serving.

    From "The Classic Cuisine of Vietnam", Bach Ngo and Gloria Zimmerman,
    Barron's, 1979.

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452.4 to MICHAEL LOO on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 15:27:50
    Quoting MICHAEL LOO to SHAWN HIGHFIELD <=-

    I hope she has other redeeming value. Did she cook

    Many yes.

    it over insufficient heat, so the juice sort of
    stewed the meat, or was it in simmering salted
    water? The latter can be good, if the meat is a
    tender but not fatty cut, and the water is well
    seasoned and at just bubbling temperature.

    So she was frying it in butter, and for some reason when it was already
    well done she added in a cup or more of tap water. To this day she's not
    allowed to cook steak and that was when we were just dating.

    we don't know why. My daughter says I'm a vampire.
    And rare meat, and pointy teeth. Sure signs.

    It's pretty much a sure thing.

    You should be able to substitute for the Worcestershire
    (I'd actually be surprised if there's no gluten-free
    version). You could use a pure-soy soy sauce like Tamari
    with a small glugg of fish sauce, for example.

    I've done this and it works well enough. Also used a dash of vinegar
    and again it's close ish.

    Shawn

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