the relationship survives. If someone treated
me the way some of these couples treat each other,
it would soon be an I'm outta here situation.

I wouldn't want to be in that situation, either... but the point is that apparently each of them is satisfied with that sort of relationship...

A lot of people seem to be energized by sparring,
but often it's more than sparring. I'd go so far
as to say that even if it makes the relationship
work, it's not healthy if it gets serious or
happens all the time.

and both of them contribute to the (what you or I would see as) abuse...
my mom's youngest sister had such also with her husband, and a couple of
my sisters do as well... all, again, long-term stable marriages.... even
if I kept expecting things to just blow apart.... my parents had an

In the case I've had intimate experience with,
my parents', long-term stable was not a good
thing. There are times when the difficulties of
a real situation trump a promise made in marriage.

entirely different sort of relationship... :)

For which everyone no doubt was thankful.

And could be accomplished with not that much
difficulty. One might even make a layer cake
with tomato sauce "raspberry" filling or an
extra layer of mashed taters between. If I did
it, it wouldn't be elaborate or artistic - just
your meatloaf in a loaf tin with potato frosting
and maybe some carrot decoration.

Sounds intriguing.... ;)

The secret would be ample onions and thyme in
the cake, thyme in the filling, and perhaps
garlic in the frosting.

I can imagine that taste.... :)

Likewise.

I'm seeing a broader spectrum of serious interest in Classical music
within the younger generations, but then this is a hotbed of music instruction, with efforts to engage even inner city kids as well as the
rest in serious music study.... :)

One of my committees is explicity tasked with
that, and my view is not so sanguine.

If I compare celiac people I know with those
with nut allergies (unspecified), the numbers are
comparable.

Most nut allergies are more dramatic than many celiacs... but just in
our small church we have 3 very serious celiac cases, and another 3-4 or
so mild to fairly serious cases... sufficient that now the bread for communion is all gluten-free... fortunately those that prepare, buy the good-quality bread... :) I've known a few others in different
settings... :)

Neither is easy.

I'd be happy enough with the fried tofu... ;)

Of the versions I've had, some kind of chewy
protein seems to be very important to the balance
of the dish. Also MSG, but people don't talk about
that. Sometimes this latter comes in through the
guise of seaweed, oyster sauce, fu ru, or similar.

Naturally occurring doesn't bother me so much... :)

I'm not so sure about nonrefined always making a
difference over refined or overrefined.

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6 tb Salt
6 tb Sugar
1 tb Dry lemon powder
2 tb MSG (Accent)
2 1/2 tb Black pepper
1 tb Paprika

Dry Rib Seasoning

Sprinkle this on pork ribs before you barbecue. Don't skimp

Dry Poultry Seasoning

6 T. salt 3 T. black pepper 2 T. MSG (Accent) 2 T. garlic powder 2 T.
ground bay leaves 1 T. paprika 2 T. dry mustard

Use like rib seasoning on any fowl before barbecuing or oven frying

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Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 07-19-18 03:25 <=-

the relationship survives. If someone treated
me the way some of these couples treat each other,
it would soon be an I'm outta here situation.

I wouldn't want to be in that situation, either... but the point is that apparently each of them is satisfied with that sort of relationship...

A lot of people seem to be energized by sparring,
but often it's more than sparring. I'd go so far
as to say that even if it makes the relationship
work, it's not healthy if it gets serious or
happens all the time.

What I call bicker may be a little different than sparring... I don't
see much evidence of them being energized by it, more just a way of
relating to each other... but apparently with an underlayment of real
love and affection for each other...

and both of them contribute to the (what you or I would see as) abuse...
my mom's youngest sister had such also with her husband, and a couple of
my sisters do as well... all, again, long-term stable marriages.... even
if I kept expecting things to just blow apart....

In the case I've had intimate experience with,
my parents', long-term stable was not a good
thing. There are times when the difficulties of
a real situation trump a promise made in marriage.

There's stable and then there's stable... an eye-opener for me was at my grandma's funeral, when my Aunt Jackie stubbornly insisted that Uncle
Bill be in the funeral limo with her... because she needed him there
for his support... this after years of hearing nothing from her about
him except negative runnings down... you'd think she hated him... but underneath, there was still the love and connection...

my parents had an entirely different sort of relationship... :)

For which everyone no doubt was thankful.

Yes and no... Theirs almost went pathological the other way... so
wrapped up in each other there was hardly any room for even their
kids... I don't ever remember them arguing, though, and that indeed is
much pleasanter... ;)

I'm seeing a broader spectrum of serious interest in Classical music
within the younger generations, but then this is a hotbed of music instruction, with efforts to engage even inner city kids as well as the
rest in serious music study.... :)

One of my committees is explicitly tasked with
that, and my view is not so sanguine.

Dunno... maybe it works better in Rochester than in Boston...? The
efforts with the inner city kids seem to be rather successful here...

If I compare celiac people I know with those
with nut allergies (unspecified), the numbers are
comparable.

Most nut allergies are more dramatic than many celiacs... but just in
our small church we have 3 very serious celiac cases, and another 3-4 or
so mild to fairly serious cases... sufficient that now the bread for communion is all gluten-free... fortunately those that prepare, buy the good-quality bread... :) I've known a few others in different
settings... :)

Neither is easy.

True... any food allergy isn't particularly easy... and celiac and nut allergies are more likely to be life-threatening than most...

I'd be happy enough with the fried tofu... ;)

Of the versions I've had, some kind of chewy
protein seems to be very important to the balance
of the dish. Also MSG, but people don't talk about
that. Sometimes this latter comes in through the
guise of seaweed, oyster sauce, fu ru, or similar.

Naturally occurring doesn't bother me so much... :)

I'm not so sure about nonrefined always making a
difference over refined or overrefined.

It may be more quantity and concentration that might make the
difference...?

ttyl neb

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