• 202 More With Less + etc + overflowxn

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Friday, November 08, 2019 00:35:58
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    201 Chiko

    Chiko is / a reflection of its Chinese-Korean influenced
    cooking, which is fusion, but western and Asian ratner than
    Korean and Chinese.
    The naming style reminds me of an Edmonton place where I ate
    well once. It was called L'Azia and it was known for inventive
    western and Asian fusion. A lot of their dishes were modest in size,

    Chiko's dishes seemed to consciously avoid too much
    cross-pollination between Chi and Ko. The main gripe that
    I have with it is that the portions were pretty small for
    the rather large Californian prices.

    and vegetarian or meat light. I asked if they had anything more
    robust and the waiter said, "Say no more" and produced an off menu combination plate that started with spicy, beef broth soup with
    pork and chive dumplings followed by a very thick, medium rare
    grilled pork chop cut like a beef T-Bone with a Vietnamese spice rub
    paired with a half breast of tandoori chicken and a side of minced
    pork hand pulled noodles with hot chili oil. A veritable feast and
    although more expensive than any of the other dishes people ordered

    Reminds me of the New Yorker cartoon where there's a cocktail
    party with the guests enjoying little tidbits on toothpicks,
    and the hostess approaches her beau with a plate covered in a
    napkin. The caption is "For them, hors d'oeuvres, for you a
    pastrami sandwich." Syd Hoff, I think.

    it was not twice as expensive despite having two principal meats and
    two meaty sides. Everything was good and the pork chop was most
    excellent. I just Googled the place to refresh my memory and
    apparently it is closed and gone. A shame.

    Truly a shame. Good food gone gone is to be mourned. More
    so if it was reasonable in price. Most of all if it was
    served with a sense of humor.

    Title: Cashew Cake
    1 c Cashews
    1 c Sugar
    2 oz Butter
    5 Cardamoms
    1/4 c Milk

    Aside from the grinding step, it looks easier and maybe
    almost as good as brittle.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v7.07

    Title: Halwau-E Aurd-E Sujee (Semolina Sweetmeat)
    Categories: Afghan, Desserts
    Servings: 1

    1 c Sugar
    2 c Water
    3/4 c Ghee
    1 c Coarse semolina (farina)
    1/4 c Blanched pistachio nuts
    1/4 c Blanched, slivered almonds
    1/2 ts Ground cardamom (or more)
    1 ts Rose water (or more)
    Add'l pistachios or almonds

    Cooking time: 30-35 minutes

    Combine sugar and water in a pan and stir occasionally until dissolved
    over
    medium heat. Bring to the boil, and boil briskly for 5 minutes without
    stirring. Remove from heat and leave aside in pan.

    In a heavy deep pan heat ghee and add semolina. Stir over medium heat
    for
    5 minutes. Semolina should not colour. Pour hot syrup over semolina,
    stirring constantly. When smoothly blended, reduce heat a little and
    leave
    to cook, uncovered, until liquid is absorbed. Mixture should be thick,
    but
    still moist at this stage. Stir in nuts, and cardamom and rose water to
    taste.

    Cover rim of pan with a cloth or 2 paper towels, put lid on tightly and
    leave on low heat for 5 minutes. Turn of heat and leave pan undisturbed
    for 10 minutes.

    Spread halwau on a flat, lightly oiled platter and decorate with nuts.
    Serve warm or cold, cutting pieces into diamond shapes or squares.

    From: "The Complete Middle East Cookbook" by Tess Mallos
    ISBN: 1 86302 069 1
    Typed for you by Karen Mintzias

    MMMMM

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    202 More With Less + etc + overflowxn

    Probably, the result would have been somewhat better.
    And it wouldn't be really a waste... ;)

    Not in the bigger picture. My own expenditures try
    to take into account a wider range of potential
    beneficiaries than the norm seems to be, but it's
    not all-encompassing (taking the extreme wide range,
    the net will always be zero).

    chairs might have had things to gloss over that they were
    not proud of.
    Could be a possibility, indeed...
    Not that they have oversight over vast millions, but
    sometimes they do crazy things.
    Not a surprise.... :)

    People are funny, do doo do doo doo dooo.

    It is said that a standard technique is to issue soldiers with
    false orders and then send them out on the town to get drunk.
    And then let the loose lips protect the ships... (G)

    That's the plan.

    +

    You may be overestimating the talent pool as much as I'm
    underestimating it.
    Possible... :)

    I'm extrapolating from modern musical families, some of
    which put together darned good ensembles, but most not
    being so terrific, and also thinking of the realities
    of 18th-century life; okay, some of the family might
    have been able to get sounds out of a variety of
    contrivances, but somebody had to mind the store, do
    the laundry, slop the hogs, and when they got together
    on Sunday, well, St. Martin in the Fields it wasn't.

    I think there may not be a
    permissible way of saying what you're aiming at.
    That was precisely what I was figuring.... :)

    Of course there may not be an articulable way in
    real life either.

    They most likely are, but that doesn't mean that I'd necessarily be comfortable with the situation there... :)
    The disturbing image is of cow patties in your milk,
    which would be less of an actual health hazard.
    I don't think that would be the case there.... but I have observed other indicators of general slovenliness at that farm (and at other properties owned by the same people)....

    Out of the depths comes some pretty interesting stuff.
    If it weren't for poor hygiene, there wouldn't be cheese,
    especially washed-rind soft. Yogurt would likely have
    been as close as one got.

    And that farm wasn't the one I was particularly thinking about before, either... but another one up in the North Country, where, if they met minimal standards, those standards were very minimal....but that one
    might in fact have been only personal use....
    In that latter case, was your assesment as a result of
    drive-by smelling?
    No... I think I may have been close to that farm only once if that...

    Ah, reputation then.

    As in the households I've been part of, visual clutter did not
    mean bad smells or other sign of possible hazard.
    Which I find a little different from dairy farms... :)
    Though I've tripped over my brother's detritus, so there
    is a potential hazard.
    Various sorts of hazard....

    As I've mentioned, I had half hoped the place burned down.

    Pickled herb beets
    categories: Penn Dutch, Groff's Farm, relishes, pickles
    yield: 1 batch

    5 lb fresh beets
    6 c water
    1 c sugar
    1 c cider vinegar
    2 c beet broth
    1 c water
    3 ts salt
    1 ts black pepper
    2 Tb chopped herbs (thyme, dill, oregano etc.)

    Wash but do not peel beets. Place in a 5 to 6 qt kettle.
    Add the water and bring to a boil. Cook on medium heat
    until the beets are tender. Remove and let cool enough
    to handle. Peel and slice to desired thickness. Fill
    sterilized jars with sliced beets, filling to 1" of the
    neck. Put the sugar, vinegar, beet broth, water, salt,
    pepper and chopped herbs in a 2-qt saucepan. Stir until
    the sugar is dissolved, then bring to a boil. Boil the
    syrup for 2 min. Ladle syrup over the beets, filling
    the jars to the neck and seal. Do not move to storage
    area until completely cooled - at least 12 hr.

    Betty Groff's Country Goodness Cookbook
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  • From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Friday, November 08, 2019 00:56:02
    Probably, the result would have been somewhat better.
    And it wouldn't be really a waste... ;)

    Not in the bigger picture. My own expenditures try
    to take into account a wider range of potential
    beneficiaries than the norm seems to be, but it's
    not all-encompassing (taking the extreme wide range,
    the net will always be zero).

    chairs might have had things to gloss over that they were
    not proud of.
    Could be a possibility, indeed...
    Not that they have oversight over vast millions, but
    sometimes they do crazy things.
    Not a surprise.... :)

    People are funny, do doo do doo doo dooo.

    It is said that a standard technique is to issue soldiers with
    false orders and then send them out on the town to get drunk.
    And then let the loose lips protect the ships... (G)

    That's the plan.

    +

    You may be overestimating the talent pool as much as I'm
    underestimating it.
    Possible... :)

    I'm extrapolating from modern musical families, some of
    which put together darned good ensembles, but most not
    being so terrific, and also thinking of the realities
    of 18th-century life; okay, some of the family might
    have been able to get sounds out of a variety of
    contrivances, but somebody had to mind the store, do
    the laundry, slop the hogs, and when they got together
    on Sunday, well, St. Martin in the Fields it wasn't.

    I think there may not be a
    permissible way of saying what you're aiming at.
    That was precisely what I was figuring.... :)

    Of course there may not be an articulable way in
    real life either.

    They most likely are, but that doesn't mean that I'd necessarily be comfortable with the situation there... :)
    The disturbing image is of cow patties in your milk,
    which would be less of an actual health hazard.
    I don't think that would be the case there.... but I have observed other indicators of general slovenliness at that farm (and at other properties owned by the same people)....

    Out of the depths comes some pretty interesting stuff.
    If it weren't for poor hygiene, there wouldn't be cheese,
    especially washed-rind soft. Yogurt would likely have
    been as close as one got.

    And that farm wasn't the one I was particularly thinking about before, either... but another one up in the North Country, where, if they met minimal standards, those standards were very minimal....but that one
    might in fact have been only personal use....
    In that latter case, was your assesment as a result of
    drive-by smelling?
    No... I think I may have been close to that farm only once if that...

    Ah, reputation then.

    As in the households I've been part of, visual clutter did not
    mean bad smells or other sign of possible hazard.
    Which I find a little different from dairy farms... :)
    Though I've tripped over my brother's detritus, so there
    is a potential hazard.
    Various sorts of hazard....

    As I've mentioned, I had half hoped the place burned down.

    Pickled herb beets
    categories: Penn Dutch, Groff's Farm, relishes, pickles
    yield: 1 batch

    5 lb fresh beets
    6 c water
    1 c sugar
    1 c cider vinegar
    2 c beet broth
    1 c water
    3 ts salt
    1 ts black pepper
    2 Tb chopped herbs (thyme, dill, oregano etc.)

    Wash but do not peel beets. Place in a 5 to 6 qt kettle.
    Add the water and bring to a boil. Cook on medium heat
    until the beets are tender. Remove and let cool enough
    to handle. Peel and slice to desired thickness. Fill
    sterilized jars with sliced beets, filling to 1" of the
    neck. Put the sugar, vinegar, beet broth, water, salt,
    pepper and chopped herbs in a 2-qt saucepan. Stir until
    the sugar is dissolved, then bring to a boil. Boil the
    syrup for 2 min. Ladle syrup over the beets, filling
    the jars to the neck and seal. Do not move to storage
    area until completely cooled - at least 12 hr.

    Betty Groff's Country Goodness Cookbook
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